What’s your favorite seconds

The camaro show · 07-30-2019, 06:31 PM

So I was doing some shopping today on my break from work and seems to be that a lot of brands seconds are becoming very popular such as C&A and oliva. So what’s everyone’s favorite seconds. Mine are the oliva seconds because they are serie vs which are one of my favorites.

T.G · 07-30-2019, 06:47 PM

FYI, most of the "seconds" out there are not actually seconds. If any factory were continuously turning out that many blotched premium cigars that have to be sold at a discount, people would get fired, starting with the production manager.

Most of the so called "seconds" are often the same cigar, typically not aged though. Sometimes they will take a pilon of capa (wrapper) leaves that they sorted out because they were ugly, and have rollers make thousands of "seconds" with these leaves.

True seconds, which if things are done right, should only be a small number, hardly ever make it out of the factory, or at least not to retail. Often times these are the cigars that workers and staff smoke at the factory. Or maybe a roller gets to take a few home. It all depends on the factory.

The Poet · 07-30-2019, 07:40 PM

That being said, my favorite is:

https://www.jrcigars.com/cigars/hand...ars/consuegra/

oldforge · 07-31-2019, 11:24 AM

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Originally Posted by The Poet

That being said, my favorite is:

https://www.jrcigars.com/cigars/hand...ars/consuegra/

My consuegras are _really_ old at this point (ten years +) and they are all over the place, from excellent to terrible and everywhere in between (sorta a normal curve distribution).

Escapethefam · 09-19-2019, 05:56 PM

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Originally Posted by The Poet

That being said, my favorite is:

https://www.jrcigars.com/cigars/hand...ars/consuegra/

I’m back after 10 + years and Connie #9’ Maduro s were the most popular back at cigar weekly when it was the place to be. I just finished the last of about 100 I’ve kept over 12 years now. I think the last batches I bought were maybe 2006. All pretty good. A few stinkers but overall they aged well and def worth $1 each back when I got em. I ordered 20 from C.P. Yesterday. Said they’re overruns. For the price, I didn’t really bother to research and threw the dice. Will try one in a few months and see. But always had some consuegras on the bottom shelf in the back.

icehog3 · 07-30-2019, 07:46 PM

Here are my favorite seconds. All 17 of them.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S-h46vxck4g

The camaro show · 07-30-2019, 08:04 PM

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Originally Posted by icehog3

Here are my favorite seconds. All 17 of them.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S-h46vxck4g

Tom why did I just have a feeling it was gonna be hockey related lol

8lug · 07-31-2019, 07:03 AM

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Originally Posted by icehog3

Here are my favorite seconds. All 17 of them.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S-h46vxck4g

That's still painful to watch.

Porch Dweller · 07-31-2019, 07:32 AM

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Originally Posted by icehog3

Here are my favorite seconds. All 17 of them.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S-h46vxck4g

Brian D. · 07-30-2019, 07:55 PM

If you can find a steady supply of seconds you like, that's a good thing.

Bundles are another option. Since you mentioned Oliva, I'm a big fan of the Flor de Oliva. Available with four different wrapper leaves, several sizes of each. Buy some singles and figure out what suits you.

Consistent through the years.

markem · 07-30-2019, 09:16 PM

My fave seconds are from the grass on the Monday after Shack.

icehog3 · 07-31-2019, 12:28 AM

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Originally Posted by The camaro show

Tom why did I just have a feeling it was gonna be hockey related lol

My one track mind?

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Originally Posted by markem

My fave seconds are from the grass on the Monday after Shack.

I've never stayed until Monday. I think I might change that, seconds and loose change and maybe some loose weekday neighbors.

The Poet · 07-31-2019, 04:17 AM

And youse guys think I'm a wisea$$!

Porch Dweller · 07-31-2019, 07:33 AM

Oliva including Cain.

gomeitsmybday · 07-31-2019, 08:48 AM

I haven't honestly ever bought seconds only because I've found a couple other cheaper cigars that are really really tasty!
So while it doesn't necessarily count as a "2nd" the main one that comes to mind is the Cuba Libre...really a spectacular cigar for the price and it's jam packed with flavor. I've also tried the Cuba Libre One, which is its full bodied cousin and it's very nice too, but it's often so oily and dense that it's really hard to keep lit after hitting the halfway mark...
The regular Cuba Libre on the other hand burns like a charm and I've found them to very consistent to date...I think they are advertised as medium bodied but I'd say they are more of a medium full, particularly if kept at a lower RH...definitely check them out if you are looking for a more affordable option, I just ordered a box of Toros myself!

icehog3 · 07-31-2019, 09:03 AM

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Originally Posted by 8lug

That's still painful to watch.

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Originally Posted by Porch Dweller

I was in TD Garden for the game, so I get all the mileage I can from that one.

Only 17 seconds that even came close for me was with a Portuguese hooker.

The Poet · 07-31-2019, 09:30 AM

You lasted a whole 17 seconds? Kinda hard to believe.

icehog3 · 07-31-2019, 04:42 PM

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Originally Posted by The Poet

You lasted a whole 17 seconds? Kinda hard to believe.

Wharf Rat · 07-31-2019, 01:40 PM

I like the Oliva 2nds, especially the Liga VM, which I think is the Melanio Maduro. The M robustos are also quite good.

Both CigarPage and Atlantic have 2nds or overruns from time to time. I’ve gotten good ones from them, just have to watch.

07-30-2019, 06:31 PM	#1
The camaro show Adjusting to the Life Join Date: Nov 2018 First Name: Chayse Location: West Virginia Posts: 497 Trading: (1)	What’s your favorite seconds So I was doing some shopping today on my break from work and seems to be that a lot of brands seconds are becoming very popular such as C&A and oliva. So what’s everyone’s favorite seconds. Mine are the oliva seconds because they are serie vs which are one of my favorites.

07-30-2019, 06:47 PM	#2
T.G Grrrrrr Join Date: Mar 2009 First Name: The Other Adam Posts: 15,557 Trading: (37)	Re: What’s your favorite seconds FYI, most of the "seconds" out there are not actually seconds. If any factory were continuously turning out that many blotched premium cigars that have to be sold at a discount, people would get fired, starting with the production manager. Most of the so called "seconds" are often the same cigar, typically not aged though. Sometimes they will take a pilon of capa (wrapper) leaves that they sorted out because they were ugly, and have rollers make thousands of "seconds" with these leaves. True seconds, which if things are done right, should only be a small number, hardly ever make it out of the factory, or at least not to retail. Often times these are the cigars that workers and staff smoke at the factory. Or maybe a roller gets to take a few home. It all depends on the factory.

07-30-2019, 07:40 PM	#3
The Poet Il megglior fabbro Join Date: Jun 2009 First Name: Thomas Location: Hickory, NC Posts: 8,420 Trading: (2)	Re: What’s your favorite seconds That being said, my favorite is: https://www.jrcigars.com/cigars/hand...ars/consuegra/ __________________ Ninety percent of everything is crap - Theodore Sturgeon.

07-30-2019, 07:46 PM	#6
icehog3 Admiral Douchebag Join Date: Oct 2008 First Name: Tom Location: Clermont, Kentucky Posts: 71,440 Trading: (60)	Re: What’s your favorite seconds Here are my favorite seconds. All 17 of them. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S-h46vxck4g __________________ Thanks Dave, Julian, James, Kelly, Peter, Gerry, Dave, Mo, Frank, Týr and Mr. Mark!

07-30-2019, 07:55 PM	#10
Brian D. Have My Own Room Join Date: Jan 2009 First Name: Brian Location: SW Ohio Posts: 1,625 Trading: (1)	Re: What’s your favorite seconds If you can find a steady supply of seconds you like, that's a good thing. Bundles are another option. Since you mentioned Oliva, I'm a big fan of the Flor de Oliva. Available with four different wrapper leaves, several sizes of each. Buy some singles and figure out what suits you. Consistent through the years. __________________ Any gathering that includes Elderboy02 is "NKA"-- --No Ketchup Allowed.

07-30-2019, 09:16 PM	#11
markem Bunion Join Date: Oct 2008 First Name: Mark Location: Second Star on the Right Posts: 22,625 Trading: (47)	Re: What’s your favorite seconds My fave seconds are from the grass on the Monday after Shack. __________________ I refuse to belong to any organization that would have me as a member. ~ Groucho Marx

07-31-2019, 04:17 AM	#13
The Poet Il megglior fabbro Join Date: Jun 2009 First Name: Thomas Location: Hickory, NC Posts: 8,420 Trading: (2)	Re: What’s your favorite seconds And youse guys think I'm a wisea$$! __________________ Ninety percent of everything is crap - Theodore Sturgeon.

07-31-2019, 07:33 AM	#14
Porch Dweller Life is for living Join Date: Oct 2012 First Name: James Location: Mississippi Gulf Coast Posts: 8,461 Trading: (24)	Re: What’s your favorite seconds Oliva including Cain. __________________ A 1911 in the hand is faster than 911 on the phone

07-31-2019, 08:48 AM	#15
gomeitsmybday Feeling at Home Join Date: Aug 2018 First Name: Michael Location: Columbus, Ohio Posts: 945 Trading: (5)	Re: What’s your favorite seconds I haven't honestly ever bought seconds only because I've found a couple other cheaper cigars that are really really tasty! So while it doesn't necessarily count as a "2nd" the main one that comes to mind is the Cuba Libre...really a spectacular cigar for the price and it's jam packed with flavor. I've also tried the Cuba Libre One, which is its full bodied cousin and it's very nice too, but it's often so oily and dense that it's really hard to keep lit after hitting the halfway mark... The regular Cuba Libre on the other hand burns like a charm and I've found them to very consistent to date...I think they are advertised as medium bodied but I'd say they are more of a medium full, particularly if kept at a lower RH...definitely check them out if you are looking for a more affordable option, I just ordered a box of Toros myself!

07-31-2019, 09:30 AM	#17
The Poet Il megglior fabbro Join Date: Jun 2009 First Name: Thomas Location: Hickory, NC Posts: 8,420 Trading: (2)	Re: What’s your favorite seconds You lasted a whole 17 seconds? Kinda hard to believe. __________________ Ninety percent of everything is crap - Theodore Sturgeon.

07-31-2019, 01:40 PM	#19
Wharf Rat I'll get up and fly away Join Date: Oct 2008 First Name: Bob Location: Florence, SC Posts: 787 Trading: (7)	Re: What’s your favorite seconds I like the Oliva 2nds, especially the Liga VM, which I think is the Melanio Maduro. The M robustos are also quite good. Both CigarPage and Atlantic have 2nds or overruns from time to time. I’ve gotten good ones from them, just have to watch.