Just got the Thompson catalog in... yikes!

Blup · 02-09-2015, 05:28 PM

Made my first purchase with Thompson last month. It was a box at a good price and I'm pleased with the purchase.

However, their catalog came in the mail today. I really don't understand it. I thought CI & JR spent a lot of pages advertising crap cigars, but Thompson takes the cake.

Swishers, Phillies & Backwoods adorn the cover of the catalog.

The catalog cover features gas station cigars?

Inside there are a couple pages of Fuentes and then it goes right into page after page of super cheap junk, most of which I've never heard of: Cosechero, VSOP, Hacienda Rio, Scoundrels, Explorers... then a couple of pages of Hoyo and Davidoff.. then back to Iguanas, DSR Reserves, Don Osvaldo, 829s, Palma Real, Escudo Cubano, Factory Fresh..

The centerfold features Marsh Wheeling, Black & Mild, Panter, Captain Black, White Owl.. followed by Leprechauns, Wildes, Trader Jacks, Al Capone, Flor de Filipinas, Krome, Good Days Rejects... etc. etc. etc.

A few pages of RyJ and La Gloria Cubana, and then the back cover finishes up with more Swishers and some $1 Antonio y Cleopatras.

I don't understand. Why would they put so much effort into marketing cigars via catalog which people can buy at the local liquor store if they're so inclined? Are these super-cheapos even bigger cash cows than Gurkahs?

The wikipedia article on Thompson says, "Thompson Cigar caters to a 69%, more affluent, male demographic.[7]" I'm not entirely sure what the 69% refers to, but it seems that affluent males wouldn't be purchasing White Owls.

Me very confused.

Ogre · 02-09-2015, 05:37 PM

It's where they get the biggest profit.

14holestogie · 02-09-2015, 06:13 PM

Put the catalog in the humi for a few weeks and it should burn fine.

04-06-2015, 11:07 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 14holestogie

Put the catalog in the humi for a few weeks and it should burn fine.

My thoughts exactly.....but they do have Tat monster's for $85 bones

http://www.thompsoncigar.com/product...ategoryId=9833

galawdawg45Q · 02-09-2015, 06:19 PM

I buy from Thompson, CI,Famous Smoke and JR. I get so many magazines from these places. So I feel you. Great fire starters.

Sweet_Leaf_PDX · 02-09-2015, 06:27 PM

I like to use catalogs from Thompson, CI, JR, Famouse, etc... as fire starters. They burn in purdy colors

The Poet · 02-09-2015, 06:31 PM

All merchants have to cater to the market, and no cigar retailer would survive long selling only Davidoff and Ashton.

You may go to your local package store for microbrews, but they will always sell much more Bud.

Porch Dweller · 02-09-2015, 07:14 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by The Poet

All merchants have to cater to the market, and no cigar retailer would survive long selling only Davidoff and Ashton.

You may go to your local package store for microbrews, but they will always sell much more Bud.

I was putting together a long response, but this sums it up succinctly.

oldforge · 02-11-2015, 03:44 AM

Thompson's caters to the really stupid cigar smoker of all ages, races and income levels.

I suggest you move and change your phone number now. ;-)

sigsauer · 02-11-2015, 07:09 AM

junk
pure
junk...

RevSmoke · 02-11-2015, 12:45 PM

You know, we could talk about the crappy cigars in Thompson's catalog. We could talk about the crappy cigars sold at the local gas station, book store, and head shop.

We could lambast the "idiots" out there smoking dog rockets.

Why would we? Someone is smoking cigars! You and I may not like them, might even think they are crap! THAT IS OUR OPINION!!!

As part of the Embarrass Fire Department, when we have our regular meetings, there is a lunch served following. There is always beer available. OK, they call the available swill, and it is labeled, beer (ACCORDING TO MY OPINION). My thoughts about what constitutes drinkable beer puts me in the minority at fire meetings. And, when it is my turn to serve, and I bring some decent beer along, I am told how my beer tastes like crap.

Bud Light outsells Ale Asylum Ambergeddon a gadzillion to one.
Swishers outsell Arturo Fuente Heminway Short Stories a gadzillion to one.
Carter Hall outsells McClelland Beacon Extra (pipe tobaccos) a gadzillion to one.
American Cheese (processed garbage) outsells real cheese a gadzillion to one.

I may scratch my head over every single one of these (and I could probably come up with a gadzillion more) examples, but that's the way it is. I/We could write it off to poor taste, but wouldn't that be pretty arrogant on my/our part?

It is different tastes, different strokes for different folks.

I am not a big Viaje fan. (Ducking and running before the fallout hits) Does that make me an idiot in someone's eyes? I hope not! Does it mean I have different tastes than someone else? You betcha!

Personally, I am grateful there are gadzillions of people out there who are buying Swishers, Don Scoundrels, AyC, White Owls, Gurkhas, Viajes, and all sorts of "crap" cigars.

Why?

So that they are not buys gadzillions of the cigars I like, making them hard to find and driving up the prices to astronomical proportions. Hey, I already lived through the boom of the 1990s when that happened - do not want to repeat that.

Hey, live and let live....
Smoke what you like, and enjoy it...

Peace of the Lord be with you.

Rockestone · 02-11-2015, 06:55 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by RevSmoke

You know, we could talk about the crappy cigars in Thompson's catalog. We could talk about the crappy cigars sold at the local gas station, book store, and head shop.

We could lambast the "idiots" out there smoking dog rockets.

Why would we? Someone is smoking cigars! You and I may not like them, might even think they are crap! THAT IS OUR OPINION!!!

As part of the Embarrass Fire Department, when we have our regular meetings, there is a lunch served following. There is always beer available. OK, they call the available swill, and it is labeled, beer (ACCORDING TO MY OPINION). My thoughts about what constitutes drinkable beer puts me in the minority at fire meetings. And, when it is my turn to serve, and I bring some decent beer along, I am told how my beer tastes like crap.

Bud Light outsells Ale Asylum Ambergeddon a gadzillion to one.
Swishers outsell Arturo Fuente Heminway Short Stories a gadzillion to one.
Carter Hall outsells McClelland Beacon Extra (pipe tobaccos) a gadzillion to one.
American Cheese (processed garbage) outsells real cheese a gadzillion to one.

I may scratch my head over every single one of these (and I could probably come up with a gadzillion more) examples, but that's the way it is. I/We could write it off to poor taste, but wouldn't that be pretty arrogant on my/our part?

It is different tastes, different strokes for different folks.

I am not a big Viaje fan. (Ducking and running before the fallout hits) Does that make me an idiot in someone's eyes? I hope not! Does it mean I have different tastes than someone else? You betcha!

Personally, I am grateful there are gadzillions of people out there who are buying Swishers, Don Scoundrels, AyC, White Owls, Gurkhas, Viajes, and all sorts of "crap" cigars.

Why?

So that they are not buys gadzillions of the cigars I like, making them hard to find and driving up the prices to astronomical proportions. Hey, I already lived through the boom of the 1990s when that happened - do not want to repeat that.

Hey, live and let live....
Smoke what you like, and enjoy it...

Peace of the Lord be with you.

Well Said!

ApexAZ · 02-12-2015, 03:22 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by RevSmoke

You know, we could talk about the crappy cigars in Thompson's catalog. We could talk about the crappy cigars sold at the local gas station, book store, and head shop.

We could lambast the "idiots" out there smoking dog rockets.

Why would we? Someone is smoking cigars! You and I may not like them, might even think they are crap! THAT IS OUR OPINION!!!

As part of the Embarrass Fire Department, when we have our regular meetings, there is a lunch served following. There is always beer available. OK, they call the available swill, and it is labeled, beer (ACCORDING TO MY OPINION). My thoughts about what constitutes drinkable beer puts me in the minority at fire meetings. And, when it is my turn to serve, and I bring some decent beer along, I am told how my beer tastes like crap.

Bud Light outsells Ale Asylum Ambergeddon a gadzillion to one.
Swishers outsell Arturo Fuente Heminway Short Stories a gadzillion to one.
Carter Hall outsells McClelland Beacon Extra (pipe tobaccos) a gadzillion to one.
American Cheese (processed garbage) outsells real cheese a gadzillion to one.

I may scratch my head over every single one of these (and I could probably come up with a gadzillion more) examples, but that's the way it is. I/We could write it off to poor taste, but wouldn't that be pretty arrogant on my/our part?

It is different tastes, different strokes for different folks.

I am not a big Viaje fan. (Ducking and running before the fallout hits) Does that make me an idiot in someone's eyes? I hope not! Does it mean I have different tastes than someone else? You betcha!

Personally, I am grateful there are gadzillions of people out there who are buying Swishers, Don Scoundrels, AyC, White Owls, Gurkhas, Viajes, and all sorts of "crap" cigars.

Why?

So that they are not buys gadzillions of the cigars I like, making them hard to find and driving up the prices to astronomical proportions. Hey, I already lived through the boom of the 1990s when that happened - do not want to repeat that.

Hey, live and let live....
Smoke what you like, and enjoy it...

Peace of the Lord be with you.

I love you Todd. In a manly, heartfelt sort of way. You're a stand up dude.

Don Fernando · 02-13-2015, 02:13 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by RevSmoke

Bud Light outsells Ale Asylum Ambergeddon a gadzillion to one.
Swishers outsell Arturo Fuente Heminway Short Stories a gadzillion to one.
Carter Hall outsells McClelland Beacon Extra (pipe tobaccos) a gadzillion to one.
American Cheese (processed garbage) outsells real cheese a gadzillion to one.

and its not only with cigars and food. Just turn on the TV, Reality TV shows draw bigger crowds than good journalism. Listen to the radio, crappy pop music sells more than good quality music made by real musicians. The taste of the majority is crap! I'm glad i'm not part of the majority when it comes to food, cigars, tv or music.

jsnake · 02-11-2015, 02:39 PM

I don't like Thompson's for their shady business practices and yes that is from personal experience. I was a victim of their bait and switch tactics, harassing telemarketing calls, unauthorized credit card charges, and the worst customer service of any business I have ever dealt with.

While it floors me the Rev doesn't like Viaje he makes great points. I have guys at work that smoke Black & Milds and I actually like working with them because I get to smoke my cigars. I could care less what they are smoking because in enables us to have a common connection and we get to smoke together on the job. We were all new once and I think everyone I know once loved Macanudos. I even smoked Swishers back in my first years and thought I was the man.

My local B&M stocks pretty vanilla cigars and very little of the boutique or hard to find cigars that I enjoy. RP, Gurkha, and General Cigar stuff sells and keeps them in business.

RevSmoke · 02-11-2015, 08:01 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jsnake

I don't like Thompson's for their shady business practices and yes that is from personal experience. I was a victim of their bait and switch tactics, harassing telemarketing calls, unauthorized credit card charges, and the worst customer service of any business I have ever dealt with.

Now that is a good reason to have issue with Thompson's.

While it floors me the Rev doesn't like Viaje he makes great points. I have guys at work that smoke Black & Milds and I actually like working with them because I get to smoke my cigars. I could care less what they are smoking because in enables us to have a common connection and we get to smoke together on the job. We were all new once and I think everyone I know once loved Macanudos. I even smoked Swishers back in my first years and thought I was the man.

Hahaha! OK, I have had a couple Viaje that I liked, but not many. I do not like their regular lines of smokes, how about that? And the rest makes my point exactly.

My local B&M stocks pretty vanilla cigars and very little of the boutique or hard to find cigars that I enjoy. RP, Gurkha, and General Cigar stuff sells and keeps them in business.

Punch Rothschilds are wonderful smokes, almost identical to what they were like in the 1980s and '90s. Bread and butter to lots of stores.

MarkinAZ · 02-11-2015, 08:37 PM

Feeling better Todd?

"Note to self: email Thompson tomorrow morning and ask them to remove Todd from their catalog list. This will help reduce his blood pressure..."

jhedrick83 · 02-11-2015, 09:43 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jsnake

We were all new once and I think everyone I know once loved Macanudos.

My first ever Cigar was as a senior in high school, there was a coffee shop in town you could smoke in and I would have Macanudo Tubos out of boredom and the fact that I thought it made my 18 year old self look badass. 14 years later cigars are one of the few things in life that help me relax, reflect and recharge. I have no real desire to smoke one now but God bless Macanudo Tubos...

Subvet642 · 02-12-2015, 12:43 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jhedrick83

My first ever Cigar was as a senior in high school, there was a coffee shop in town you could smoke in and I would have Macanudo Tubos out of boredom and the fact that I thought it made my 18 year old self look badass. 14 years later cigars are one of the few things in life that help me relax, reflect and recharge. I have no real desire to smoke one now but God bless Macanudo Tubos...

I still will not turn my nose up at a Macanudo Tubo. I snork the hell out of them; not very interesting but they'll scratch an itch.

Bulldog1862 · 02-11-2015, 04:18 PM

I have had a few go arounds with them. I have recieved a few good deals from them. That being said and I quote DO Not join the VIP Club or the Cigar of the Month club. That being said I am waiting to get off work and enjoy the Macanudo Cru Royal 5 pack with a large Macanudo ashtray that came in the mail today!!!

02-09-2015, 05:28 PM	#1
Blup Just in from the Storm Join Date: Feb 2015 Location: SoCal Posts: 1 Trading: (0)	Just got the Thompson catalog in... yikes! Made my first purchase with Thompson last month. It was a box at a good price and I'm pleased with the purchase. However, their catalog came in the mail today. I really don't understand it. I thought CI & JR spent a lot of pages advertising crap cigars, but Thompson takes the cake. Swishers, Phillies & Backwoods adorn the cover of the catalog. The catalog cover features gas station cigars? Inside there are a couple pages of Fuentes and then it goes right into page after page of super cheap junk, most of which I've never heard of: Cosechero, VSOP, Hacienda Rio, Scoundrels, Explorers... then a couple of pages of Hoyo and Davidoff.. then back to Iguanas, DSR Reserves, Don Osvaldo, 829s, Palma Real, Escudo Cubano, Factory Fresh.. The centerfold features Marsh Wheeling, Black & Mild, Panter, Captain Black, White Owl.. followed by Leprechauns, Wildes, Trader Jacks, Al Capone, Flor de Filipinas, Krome, Good Days Rejects... etc. etc. etc. A few pages of RyJ and La Gloria Cubana, and then the back cover finishes up with more Swishers and some $1 Antonio y Cleopatras. I don't understand. Why would they put so much effort into marketing cigars via catalog which people can buy at the local liquor store if they're so inclined? Are these super-cheapos even bigger cash cows than Gurkahs? The wikipedia article on Thompson says, "Thompson Cigar caters to a 69%, more affluent, male demographic.[7]" I'm not entirely sure what the 69% refers to, but it seems that affluent males wouldn't be purchasing White Owls. Me very confused. Last edited by Blup; 02-09-2015 at 05:34 PM.

02-09-2015, 05:37 PM	#2
Ogre **CENSORED** Join Date: Apr 2010 First Name: Larry Location: Central Florida Posts: 12,068 Trading: (46)	Re: Just got the Thompson catalog in... yikes! It's where they get the biggest profit. __________________

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14holestogie Serial banter killer Join Date: Oct 2008 First Name: Tim Location: Clintonville, WI Posts: 4,341 Trading: (52)	Re: Just got the Thompson catalog in... yikes! Put the catalog in the humi for a few weeks and it should burn fine. __________________ *I loves me a Parti*

02-09-2015, 06:19 PM	#5
galawdawg45Q Just in from the Storm Join Date: Feb 2015 First Name: Andy Location: Georgia Posts: 26 Trading: (0)	Re: Just got the Thompson catalog in... yikes! I buy from Thompson, CI,Famous Smoke and JR. I get so many magazines from these places. So I feel you. Great fire starters.

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Sweet_Leaf_PDX Feeling at Home Join Date: May 2013 First Name: Jason Location: Portland, OR Posts: 605 Trading: (11)	Re: Just got the Thompson catalog in... yikes! I like to use catalogs from Thompson, CI, JR, Famouse, etc... as fire starters. They burn in purdy colors

02-09-2015, 06:31 PM	#7
The Poet Il megglior fabbro Join Date: Jun 2009 First Name: Thomas Location: Hickory, NC Posts: 8,420 Trading: (2)	Re: Just got the Thompson catalog in... yikes! All merchants have to cater to the market, and no cigar retailer would survive long selling only Davidoff and Ashton. You may go to your local package store for microbrews, but they will always sell much more Bud. __________________ Ninety percent of everything is crap - Theodore Sturgeon.

02-11-2015, 03:44 AM	#9
oldforge Still Watching My Back Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: Porcupine Quillage, CT Posts: 248 Trading: (0)	Re: Just got the Thompson catalog in... yikes! Thompson's caters to the really stupid cigar smoker of all ages, races and income levels. I suggest you move and change your phone number now. ;-)

02-11-2015, 07:09 AM	#10
sigsauer Have My Own Room Join Date: Dec 2008 First Name: Tom Location: Pennsylvania Posts: 1,371 Trading: (63)	Re: Just got the Thompson catalog in... yikes! junk pure junk...

02-11-2015, 12:45 PM	#11
RevSmoke Ain't Never Gonna Leave Join Date: Oct 2008 First Name: Todd Location: Northcentral woods of Wisconsin Posts: 6,861 Trading: (51)	Re: Just got the Thompson catalog in... yikes! You know, we could talk about the crappy cigars in Thompson's catalog. We could talk about the crappy cigars sold at the local gas station, book store, and head shop. We could lambast the "idiots" out there smoking dog rockets. Why would we? Someone is smoking cigars! You and I may not like them, might even think they are crap! THAT IS OUR OPINION!!! As part of the Embarrass Fire Department, when we have our regular meetings, there is a lunch served following. There is always beer available. OK, they call the available swill, and it is labeled, beer (ACCORDING TO MY OPINION). My thoughts about what constitutes drinkable beer puts me in the minority at fire meetings. And, when it is my turn to serve, and I bring some decent beer along, I am told how my beer tastes like crap. Bud Light outsells Ale Asylum Ambergeddon a gadzillion to one. Swishers outsell Arturo Fuente Heminway Short Stories a gadzillion to one. Carter Hall outsells McClelland Beacon Extra (pipe tobaccos) a gadzillion to one. American Cheese (processed garbage) outsells real cheese a gadzillion to one. I may scratch my head over every single one of these (and I could probably come up with a gadzillion more) examples, but that's the way it is. I/We could write it off to poor taste, but wouldn't that be pretty arrogant on my/our part? It is different tastes, different strokes for different folks. I am not a big Viaje fan. (Ducking and running before the fallout hits) Does that make me an idiot in someone's eyes? I hope not! Does it mean I have different tastes than someone else? You betcha! Personally, I am grateful there are gadzillions of people out there who are buying Swishers, Don Scoundrels, AyC, White Owls, Gurkhas, Viajes, and all sorts of "crap" cigars. Why? So that they are not buys gadzillions of the cigars I like, making them hard to find and driving up the prices to astronomical proportions. Hey, I already lived through the boom of the 1990s when that happened - do not want to repeat that. Hey, live and let live.... Smoke what you like, and enjoy it... Peace of the Lord be with you. __________________ Todd__ "Smoke what you like, and enjoy it!"

02-11-2015, 02:39 PM	#15
jsnake Have My Own Room Join Date: Feb 2010 First Name: Jake Location: Your mom's house Posts: 1,309 Trading: (22)	Re: Just got the Thompson catalog in... yikes! I don't like Thompson's for their shady business practices and yes that is from personal experience. I was a victim of their bait and switch tactics, harassing telemarketing calls, unauthorized credit card charges, and the worst customer service of any business I have ever dealt with. While it floors me the Rev doesn't like Viaje he makes great points. I have guys at work that smoke Black & Milds and I actually like working with them because I get to smoke my cigars. I could care less what they are smoking because in enables us to have a common connection and we get to smoke together on the job. We were all new once and I think everyone I know once loved Macanudos. I even smoked Swishers back in my first years and thought I was the man. My local B&M stocks pretty vanilla cigars and very little of the boutique or hard to find cigars that I enjoy. RP, Gurkha, and General Cigar stuff sells and keeps them in business.

02-11-2015, 08:37 PM	#17
MarkinAZ Formerly MarkinOR Join Date: Oct 2008 First Name: Mark Location: Sun City West, AZ Posts: 6,221 Trading: (40)	Re: Just got the Thompson catalog in... yikes! Feeling better Todd? "Note to self: email Thompson tomorrow morning and ask them to remove Todd from their catalog list. This will help reduce his blood pressure..." __________________ "Don't worry, God will work out His plan for your life..." Psalm 138 8

02-11-2015, 04:18 PM	#20
Bulldog1862 Just in from the Storm Join Date: Oct 2014 Posts: 12 Trading: (0)	Re: Just got the Thompson catalog in... yikes! I have had a few go arounds with them. I have recieved a few good deals from them. That being said and I quote DO Not join the VIP Club or the Cigar of the Month club. That being said I am waiting to get off work and enjoy the Macanudo Cru Royal 5 pack with a large Macanudo ashtray that came in the mail today!!!