Partagas 160 Robusto Major

jjirons69 · 10-28-2012, 08:44 AM

Here's a little bio I found:

"In 1995 General Cigar offered an extremely limited edition cigar to commemorate the 150 years Partagas cigars have been in production- the Partagas 150. Ten years later, using the same rare, 1977 vintage Cameroon wrapper, they launched the Partagas 160 Signature Series.

These very sought-after beauties are Cigar Master Daniel Nuñez’s tribute to the legacy of his mentor, the legendary Ramón Cifuentes. Blended with Dominican Piloto Cubano and Mexican San Andres filler tobaccos, these cigars have been sorted three times to intensify the flavors of the tobaccos. The result is a cigar connoisseur’s delight; a medium bodied, well-balanced, extremely rich and creamy smoke."

Cigar: Partagas 160 Robusto Major
Size: 5.5 x 52
Price: $18-$23
Paired: Mendocino Oatmeal Stout
Time: 1.5 hours

This cigar was gifted to me years ago by a fellow PSHC member. I probably have 30 or so HTF or premium NCs and I don't smoke them often. The only NCs I buy are special deals with buddies just to have smokes on the golf course, so my stash if limited. It was a raining afternoon yesterday and after eyeing this guy for a few weeks, I decided it was time. I also thought about a little review, so here it goes.

Initial: The cigar was well-constructed, firm, and tight. It had a typical cigar smell. It wasn't that attractive, as the wrapper looked a little splotchy and faded. I guess that's to be expected given the age of the wrapper. I punched it and toasted away.

1st third: It lit great. The draw was not loose and was probably a tad tight. After a few drags and a little finger rolling, it loosened up nicely. My initial thought were very pleasing. Hype-wise, I was prepared for a big let down, another run-of-the-mill premium smoke that would for sure not make it all the way through a blind taste test. However, the taste was very smooth with a strong bread presence. There was no spice, pepper, etc. I would call it medium. The aftertastes were not long and were quite pleasing. The bread flavors were even more pronounced in the nasal exhale. Again, strange, as I don't nasal exhale the majority of NCs as I find them too harsh for my olfactory system. For several draws in this first third I picked up salt. It reminded me of the salty taste I get from Dips or Sancho Panzas. Very pronounced and a nice surprise. After that short incident, however, it was gone. I kept trying to compare this stick to others I've had. It was a unique NC in that it didn't taste like an NC. I would have to say it was very similar to a fresh PLPC. That's pretty bold for me to say, as I don't remember any NCs that directly remind me of CCs. It paired well with my oatmeal stout. No touchups.

2nd third:
The draw was much looser and just about right. No more salt, but still lots of bread. As I was getting deeper, I thought it would change to a little more fuller smoke, but it didn't. It remained smooth, and while a little stronger, would still be what I called medium. Nasal exhales were still tasty. There were more hints of wood and leather as I got deeper. It wasn't overly complex with flavors shifting every few draws, but it was enjoyable. Also noted was the absence of sweetness. It was in no way bitter or hot, but it also wasn't sweet. No touchups.

jjirons69 · 10-28-2012, 08:52 AM

3rd third:
From here to the end, it smoked great. I never picked up the lighter from the initial toasting. It burned razor sharp and held an inch of ash with no problem. It was building a little to a medium-full smoke, but still very smooth. The nasal exhales were still enjoyable and flavorful with the same pronounced bread and subtle wood/leather profiles. It still reminded of a PLPC. I took it down to around an inch.

Conclusions:
I admit I was very pleased and surprised. This cigar has history and hype and I saw it as a sales ploy. I was mistaken. This entire smoke was smooth, slightly woodsy with a little leather, and busting with warm bread. I'd dare say creamy would work, too. It's not overly-complex and even kind of predictable once you get going. It never hot or bitter and burned as well as any cigar could. It was a most unique NC to me. Would I want to pay $20 for one - maybe during a special occasion. It is worth the money - yes, compared to other $20 NCs. It was a great cigar. Great NCs can cost you and I've seen premium money plopped down for smokes no where near this caliber. I expected a lot and I got a lot. This is rare for my NC experience.

Number: I'd give it a 94.

ninjavanish · 10-28-2012, 09:00 AM

I have to admit, I was worried when I saw you chose to pair it with an Oatmeal Stout. The 160's are now getting up there in age and the flavors are becoming more delicate and nuanced. I was afraid such a full flavored beer would overpower it. Nice review.

SvilleKid · 10-28-2012, 10:41 AM

I hate it because it's a General Cigar stick

Not really

Just wanted to get a "General" slam in!

omowasu · 10-28-2012, 11:50 AM

Great review Jamie, thanks for the thoughts and pictures on this one.

This is one of the NCs that age really, really well... Ive heard that the Partagas 150s and 160s are excellent candidates for laying down for 5-10 years.

Emjaysmash · 10-28-2012, 11:59 AM

Awesome Interview!! Thanks!

N2 GOLD · 10-28-2012, 12:26 PM

Great review, thanks...

RevSmoke · 10-29-2012, 09:47 PM

I loved the 150s, had a number of them. I never had a 160, maybe I should.

Thanks for the nice review.

Peace of The Lord be with you.

dubleuhb · 10-30-2012, 07:57 PM

Nice review. Great first cigar for the day. Couple years back my one of my locals had them insanely cheap compared to MSRP. Only had the Robusto Minors, down to my last half box, wish I could have bought them all.

iaMkcK · 10-30-2012, 08:24 PM

For the price, I'm weary. But -- I've yet to have a bad Partagas.. Your review may have swayed me to pick one or two up. Now to find an inexpensive obtainment route. :-D

11-05-2012, 12:07 PM

In think it over price for a non Cuban Partagas General Cigars is just taking advantage that there is not cuban cigars in the states. For the looks I will guess it will dry you mouth and it will be a very hot burn filling...
I can wait to see a traditional cigar made with love and know how. Now we just paying for marketing.
All this big boys are taking the industry for a ride....
Nothing personal I just can`t take it no more.... They are printing label and puting prices.

Subvet642 · 11-05-2012, 01:10 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Inside_INFO

... For the looks I will guess it will dry you mouth and it will be a very hot burn filling...

That's one helluva trick; to review a stick without even smoking it!

T.G · 11-05-2012, 01:33 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Subvet642

That's one helluva trick; to review a stick without even smoking it!

But he's "Inside_INFO"! He's gots da skillz!

Subvet642 · 11-05-2012, 01:42 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by T.G

But he's "Inside_INFO"! He's gots da skillz!

If I had skillz like that, I wouldn't even have to buy any sticks; I could just look at pictures.

T.G · 11-05-2012, 01:58 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Subvet642

If I had skillz like that, I wouldn't even have to buy any sticks; I could just look at pictures.

It would be really cool if it worked on other pictures too.

Sports Illustrated swimsuit edition.
Victoria's Secret catalog.
Best of The Golden Girls, a sitcom history in pictures.

jjirons69 · 11-07-2012, 07:25 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Inside_INFO

For the looks I will guess it will dry you mouth and it will be a very hot burn filling...

Quite the opposite. I've had my share of dry and hot smokes - this was not one. Thus the book and it's cover...

11-06-2012, 04:40 PM

Rating a cigar it is a personal opinion. I always say, cigars are like a woman the more you select then the worse they are!!!

I will trade one of my cigars for one of then...

T.G · 11-06-2012, 07:50 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Inside_INFO

Rating a cigar it is a personal opinion. I always say, cigars are like a woman the more you select then the worse they are!!!

I will trade one of my cigars for one of then...

Of course rating a cigar is a personal opinion, no one has a problem with that. It's the fact that you reviewed the burn and taste of the cigar, not from actually smoking one, but rather solely from looking at a picture, which has some of us questioning how one possesses the magical superpowers to do that.

On another note, there is a trades forum here where you can buy, sell or trade non-cuban cigars. It should become available to you in time once people get to know you (the formula is only known to the admins and it is a combination of time and participation). It's generally frowned upon for one to post trade requests prior to the point at which one is granted access to that section of the site.

10-28-2012, 08:44 AM	#1
jjirons69 Haberdasher Join Date: Oct 2008 First Name: Jamie Location: Chucktown, SC Posts: 4,120 Trading: (94)	Partagas 160 Robusto Major Here's a little bio I found: "In 1995 General Cigar offered an extremely limited edition cigar to commemorate the 150 years Partagas cigars have been in production- the Partagas 150. Ten years later, using the same rare, 1977 vintage Cameroon wrapper, they launched the Partagas 160 Signature Series. These very sought-after beauties are Cigar Master Daniel Nuñez’s tribute to the legacy of his mentor, the legendary Ramón Cifuentes. Blended with Dominican Piloto Cubano and Mexican San Andres filler tobaccos, these cigars have been sorted three times to intensify the flavors of the tobaccos. The result is a cigar connoisseur’s delight; a medium bodied, well-balanced, extremely rich and creamy smoke." Cigar: Partagas 160 Robusto Major Size: 5.5 x 52 Price: $18-$23 Paired: Mendocino Oatmeal Stout Time: 1.5 hours This cigar was gifted to me years ago by a fellow PSHC member. I probably have 30 or so HTF or premium NCs and I don't smoke them often. The only NCs I buy are special deals with buddies just to have smokes on the golf course, so my stash if limited. It was a raining afternoon yesterday and after eyeing this guy for a few weeks, I decided it was time. I also thought about a little review, so here it goes. Initial: The cigar was well-constructed, firm, and tight. It had a typical cigar smell. It wasn't that attractive, as the wrapper looked a little splotchy and faded. I guess that's to be expected given the age of the wrapper. I punched it and toasted away. 1st third: It lit great. The draw was not loose and was probably a tad tight. After a few drags and a little finger rolling, it loosened up nicely. My initial thought were very pleasing. Hype-wise, I was prepared for a big let down, another run-of-the-mill premium smoke that would for sure not make it all the way through a blind taste test. However, the taste was very smooth with a strong bread presence. There was no spice, pepper, etc. I would call it medium. The aftertastes were not long and were quite pleasing. The bread flavors were even more pronounced in the nasal exhale. Again, strange, as I don't nasal exhale the majority of NCs as I find them too harsh for my olfactory system. For several draws in this first third I picked up salt. It reminded me of the salty taste I get from Dips or Sancho Panzas. Very pronounced and a nice surprise. After that short incident, however, it was gone. I kept trying to compare this stick to others I've had. It was a unique NC in that it didn't taste like an NC. I would have to say it was very similar to a fresh PLPC. That's pretty bold for me to say, as I don't remember any NCs that directly remind me of CCs. It paired well with my oatmeal stout. No touchups. 2nd third: The draw was much looser and just about right. No more salt, but still lots of bread. As I was getting deeper, I thought it would change to a little more fuller smoke, but it didn't. It remained smooth, and while a little stronger, would still be what I called medium. Nasal exhales were still tasty. There were more hints of wood and leather as I got deeper. It wasn't overly complex with flavors shifting every few draws, but it was enjoyable. Also noted was the absence of sweetness. It was in no way bitter or hot, but it also wasn't sweet. No touchups. __________________ Somebody has to go back and get a chitload of dimes

10-28-2012, 08:52 AM	#2
jjirons69 Haberdasher Join Date: Oct 2008 First Name: Jamie Location: Chucktown, SC Posts: 4,120 Trading: (94)	Re: Partagas 160 Robusto Major 3rd third: From here to the end, it smoked great. I never picked up the lighter from the initial toasting. It burned razor sharp and held an inch of ash with no problem. It was building a little to a medium-full smoke, but still very smooth. The nasal exhales were still enjoyable and flavorful with the same pronounced bread and subtle wood/leather profiles. It still reminded of a PLPC. I took it down to around an inch. Conclusions: I admit I was very pleased and surprised. This cigar has history and hype and I saw it as a sales ploy. I was mistaken. This entire smoke was smooth, slightly woodsy with a little leather, and busting with warm bread. I'd dare say creamy would work, too. It's not overly-complex and even kind of predictable once you get going. It never hot or bitter and burned as well as any cigar could. It was a most unique NC to me. Would I want to pay $20 for one - maybe during a special occasion. It is worth the money - yes, compared to other $20 NCs. It was a great cigar. Great NCs can cost you and I've seen premium money plopped down for smokes no where near this caliber. I expected a lot and I got a lot. This is rare for my NC experience. Number: I'd give it a 94. __________________ Somebody has to go back and get a chitload of dimes

10-28-2012, 09:00 AM	#3
ninjavanish Feeling at Home Join Date: Aug 2010 Location: Trust me, your humi isn't big enough. Posts: 507 Trading: (16)	Re: Partagas 160 Robusto Major I have to admit, I was worried when I saw you chose to pair it with an Oatmeal Stout. The 160's are now getting up there in age and the flavors are becoming more delicate and nuanced. I was afraid such a full flavored beer would overpower it. Nice review.

10-28-2012, 10:41 AM	#4
SvilleKid Yes I am a Pirate Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: 33°46′08″N 86°28′16″W / 33.76895°N 86.471037°W Posts: 2,776 Trading: (52)	Re: Partagas 160 Robusto Major I hate it because it's a General Cigar stick Not really Just wanted to get a "General" slam in! __________________ Ceilin' fan it stirs the air, Cigar smoke does swirl. The fragrance on the pillow case, and he thinks about the girl. Thanks, JB, 1975.

10-28-2012, 11:50 AM	#5
omowasu Fell ROTT Join Date: Jan 2009 First Name: Scott II Location: Chicago Posts: 288 Trading: (3)	Re: Partagas 160 Robusto Major Great review Jamie, thanks for the thoughts and pictures on this one. This is one of the NCs that age really, really well... Ive heard that the Partagas 150s and 160s are excellent candidates for laying down for 5-10 years. __________________ If I had something smart to say, I would definitely put it here.

10-28-2012, 11:59 AM	#6
Emjaysmash The Hebrew Hammer Join Date: Oct 2008 First Name: M.J. Location: Milwaukee, WI Posts: 7,025 Trading: (76)	Re: Partagas 160 Robusto Major Awesome Interview!! Thanks! __________________

10-28-2012, 12:26 PM	#7
N2 GOLD MIND OVER MATTER... Join Date: Feb 2011 First Name: RICO Location: So. CAL 33° 44' 44" N / 117° 52' 0" W Posts: 2,330 Trading: (1)	Re: Partagas 160 Robusto Major Great review, thanks... __________________ When I want your opinion, I'll give it to ya.

10-29-2012, 09:47 PM	#8
RevSmoke Ain't Never Gonna Leave Join Date: Oct 2008 First Name: Todd Location: Northcentral woods of Wisconsin Posts: 6,849 Trading: (51)	Re: Partagas 160 Robusto Major I loved the 150s, had a number of them. I never had a 160, maybe I should. Thanks for the nice review. Peace of The Lord be with you. __________________ Todd__ "Smoke what you like, and enjoy it!"

10-30-2012, 07:57 PM	#9
dubleuhb Big egos have little ears Join Date: Oct 2012 First Name: Bill Location: Western NY Posts: 97 Trading: (2)	Re: Partagas 160 Robusto Major Nice review. Great first cigar for the day. Couple years back my one of my locals had them insanely cheap compared to MSRP. Only had the Robusto Minors, down to my last half box, wish I could have bought them all.

10-30-2012, 08:24 PM	#10
iaMkcK Feeling at Home Join Date: Oct 2012 First Name: Jarrett Location: SoCal Posts: 570 Trading: (8)	Re: Partagas 160 Robusto Major For the price, I'm weary. But -- I've yet to have a bad Partagas.. Your review may have swayed me to pick one or two up. Now to find an inexpensive obtainment route. :-D

11-05-2012, 12:07 PM	#11
Inside_INFO Guest Posts: n/a	Re: Partagas 160 Robusto Major In think it over price for a non Cuban Partagas General Cigars is just taking advantage that there is not cuban cigars in the states. For the looks I will guess it will dry you mouth and it will be a very hot burn filling... I can wait to see a traditional cigar made with love and know how. Now we just paying for marketing. All this big boys are taking the industry for a ride.... Nothing personal I just can`t take it no more.... They are printing label and puting prices.

11-06-2012, 04:40 PM	#17
Inside_INFO Guest Posts: n/a	Re: Partagas 160 Robusto Major Rating a cigar it is a personal opinion. I always say, cigars are like a woman the more you select then the worse they are!!! I will trade one of my cigars for one of then...