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Old 10-22-2012, 04:03 PM   #1
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Surrogates..... are they good or what? Just looking for some opinions. I like LP #9's t52's, Padrons, tats, Oliva V's, you know the typical good Med-Full NC's. How do the surrogates stack up? and are they all very different? Thanks, Jon
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Old 10-22-2012, 04:11 PM   #2
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Surrogates..... are they good or what? Just looking for some opinions. I like LP #9's t52's, Padrons, tats, Oliva V's, you know the typical good Med-Full NC's. How do the surrogates stack up? and are they all very different? Thanks, Jon
Love the Tramp Stamp! I've gone through a box in less than a week. Bone Crusher is good as well but not as good as the Tramp.
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Old 10-22-2012, 05:17 PM   #3
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Love the Tramp Stamp! I've gone through a box in less than a week. Bone Crusher is good as well but not as good as the Tramp.
Yinz need to welcome Bart (crgcpro) to our stellar group. He just bombed this Western old Bart with a sampler of 11 cc's, plus a Surrogate Tramp that will br burned while tailgating o at Oregoon St.-Washington game Sat. nite.
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The Skull Breaker has been my hands down favorite. Between me, my boss, and those we recommended them to we went through 2 boxes in 2 weeks. The Bone Crusher has been a good substitute since we've been out of the Skull Breakers, but its not quite the same. The Tramp Stamp is a good little smoke, and the Crystal Baller I'm still not sold on, I need to try another couple.
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Old 10-22-2012, 05:05 PM   #5
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Funny how quickly I fall out of the know. I'm already lost in this thread.
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Old 10-22-2012, 05:11 PM   #6
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I liked both the Bone Crusher and Skull Breaker. I haven't tried the ones with the lame names yet.
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I liked both the Bone Crusher and Skull Breaker. I haven't tried the ones with the lame names yet.
Those aren't?
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I thought the same thing.
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Old 10-23-2012, 08:46 AM   #9
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I always find it comical at how much anything pertaining to Pete brings out the hate. There are a ton of smokes from many manufacturers with dumb ass names that no one ever mentions but if it's a stick produced by Pete a thread can grow to pages of hate. I always wonder what it is about the guy that makes people hate him so much. Hell for my palette his sticks very rarely disappoint and after meeting and speaking with him I had whole new respect for the guy. When it comes to tobacco they guy knows his sh*t.
The original concept when these dropped was a pretty awesome one. They were released exclusively for New Havana and the concept behind it was to offer a stick that had zero information behind it and have people try it and judge it strictly on the way it smokes. There was no info on who produced it or what factory it came from, where the tobacco originated from etc. They were a hit way before the information of what it was a year or so later. I know for myself after smoking the BC and SB that I had a sneaking suspicion that it was a Pete stick but I tend to smoke more Tat product than anything else so the profile was very familiar to me. I even heard rumor that Andre Farkas called Dan at NHC complaining about the bands which I too think was a private dig back at Andre as he has stolen many an idea from Pete and had the tables turned on him with it. That's just my opinion.
Yes, the names are goofy but the sticks are pretty solid and anyone who would automatically right off a stick and not try it because of the name will miss out on a lot of great sticks especially in today's day and age in the industry as goofy names are becoming more and more commonplace. Personally when people say that I usually silently call BS and figure they are trying to put up some fake online persona.
If a stick smokes great but is named the turd burglar I would have no shame in smoking it on a regular basis. At the end of the day you don't smoke the name.
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Old 10-23-2012, 08:50 AM   #10
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I always find it comical at how much anything pertaining to Pete brings out the hate. There are a ton of smokes from many manufacturers with dumb ass names that no one ever mentions but if it's a stick produced by Pete a thread can grow to pages of hate. I always wonder what it is about the guy that makes people hate him so much. Hell for my palette his sticks very rarely disappoint and after meeting and speaking with him I had whole new respect for the guy. When it comes to tobacco they guy knows his sh*t.
The original concept when these dropped was a pretty awesome one. They were released exclusively for New Havana and the concept behind it was to offer a stick that had zero information behind it and have people try it and judge it strictly on the way it smokes. There was no info on who produced it or what factory it came from, where the tobacco originated from etc. They were a hit way before the information of what it was a year or so later. I know for myself after smoking the BC and SB that I had a sneaking suspicion that it was a Pete stick but I tend to smoke more Tat product than anything else so the profile was very familiar to me. I even heard rumor that Andre Farkas called Dan at NHC complaining about the bands which I too think was a private dig back at Andre as he has stolen many an idea from Pete and had the tables turned on him with it. That's just my opinion.
Yes, the names are goofy but the sticks are pretty solid and anyone who would automatically right off a stick and not try it because of the name will miss out on a lot of great sticks especially in today's day and age in the industry as goofy names are becoming more and more commonplace. Personally when people say that I usually silently call BS and figure they are trying to put up some fake online persona.
If a stick smokes great but is named the turd burglar I would have no shame in smoking it on a regular basis. At the end of the day you don't smoke the name.
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Old 10-23-2012, 09:11 AM   #11
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I always find it comical at how much anything pertaining to Pete brings out the hate. There are a ton of smokes from many manufacturers with dumb ass names that no one ever mentions but if it's a stick produced by Pete a thread can grow to pages of hate.
For me, it has nothing to do with Pete.
A stupid name is a stupid name - no matter who makes it.
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Old 10-22-2012, 05:29 PM   #12
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I'm a big fan of the Surrogate line. Really enjoy the Bone Crusher, Skull Breaker and the Tramp Stamp...stayed away from the Crystal Baller though.
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Old 10-22-2012, 06:28 PM   #13
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I'm a big fan of the Surrogate line. Really enjoy the Bone Crusher, Skull Breaker and the Tramp Stamp...stayed away from the Crystal Baller though.
Then, I can't wait for the neck twister, knee capper, and joint grinder.
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Then, I can't wait for the neck twister, knee capper, and joint grinder.
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Old 10-22-2012, 07:57 PM   #15
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Must be a CC lover and NC hater! Just a guess????
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Must be a CC lover and NC hater! Just a guess????
Wrong, Sonny.
How little you know.
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I like them especially the Bone Crusher and Skull Breaker. For me I rate them SB, BC, Crystal Baller, Tramp Stamp.
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I like them especially the Bone Crusher and Skull Breaker. For me I rate them SB, BC, Crystal Baller, Tramp Stamp.
I second what John said!
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The surrogates are amazing smokes.
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I love the Skull Breaker and Tramp Stamp
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