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07-10-2012, 12:01 PM | #1 |
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Tragic shooting death involving off duty Detroit Police officer
I have the utmost respect for LEOs, firefighters, and other public service workers. I have read a couple articles on this tragedy. Here is one: http://www.freep.com/article/2012071...-daughter-die-
And another: http://usnews.msnbc.msn.com/_news/20...-accident?lite What is clear is a 24 year old woman is dead from a gunshot wound to the chest. The rest I can't piece together. It just doesn't add up. Now I'm not blaming the officer or the victim. I'm just trying to work it out in my head as to how this could happen. Below are some of the logistics. The weapon was a S&W M&P 40. It only has a safety within the trigger, similar to that used on Glock pistols. While I am not a fan of this safety design, I can't figure out how this weapon went off. To pull a trigger unintentionally through a neoprene holster would be difficult/improbable. Plus, how did the angle of the barrel allow for her to be shot in the chest? It just seems something isn't right with this story.
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07-10-2012, 12:04 PM | #2 |
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I don't see how she was shot in the chest if it was holstered. First of all, the holster covers the trigger. So, lets just say she got her hand in the holster, pulled the trigger, but then how does it shoot upward at her chest if the gun is pointing down.
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07-10-2012, 12:06 PM | #3 |
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I agree. There's some missing details to this story. I wonder if she was on her knees and not hugging him as they contend.
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Edited: Just found an article saying just what you thought. http://www.freep.com/article/2012071...xt%7CFRONTPAGE Quote:
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07-10-2012, 12:21 PM | #5 |
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But still, when holstered a gun points down. Which means the trigger must be pulled in an upward direction. So they're saying she pushed upward against this neoprene holster hard enough (6.5-10 lbs of force) and specifically within the trigger guard so as to completely depress the trigger?
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07-10-2012, 12:24 PM | #6 |
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I was thinking about this yesterday, was wondering how an IWB or hip holster could hit her in the chest,,,then I thought, maybe it was a shoulder holster, pointing backward and when she hugged him from behind somehow it went off?
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07-10-2012, 12:35 PM | #7 |
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Just to be extra clear, I know two members of CA that are active DPD. They are both good guys. It's probable that they know Officer Parrish. I am not suggesting that he did anything wrong. I am just questing the reported account of events.
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07-10-2012, 12:42 PM | #8 |
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Yup, whatever the media says is about 20% accurate, yes a gun was fired and unfortunately someone was killed, I will wait for some official account.
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07-10-2012, 02:30 PM | #9 |
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This is a perfect example of his side, the other side, and somewhere in between lies the truth.
Can't phantom how this could have happened as described. If true, my concealed in my back pocket should have put quite a few holes in me or somebody by now.
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07-10-2012, 12:37 PM | #10 |
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We were talking about this the other night at work. Somebody is telling a lie. No way a gun in a holster is going to shoot up like that. Something is fishy.
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07-10-2012, 02:57 PM | #11 |
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Moral of the story: Don't carry cocked with a round in the chamber. Use a revolver for safer self defense.
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07-10-2012, 03:23 PM | #12 | |
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This was a very tragic accident. Scott, I also can see how this can happen. I will try to download a demo shortly. I do not know the officer or victim in this situation, nor am I trying to justify what happened. I to am waiting on the official report, but looking at the possibility of it all, I believe it is possible.
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07-10-2012, 04:49 PM | #13 |
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Makes no sense. A gun without a chambered round is a blunt trauma weapon. Go watch some of the videos out there of robberies where an employee has to chamber a round before shooting and gets shot multiple times. If its a hammer fired gun, cocked and locked. If it's striker fired(glock, xd, m&p) keep your bugger hook off the trigger and carry in a PROPER holster and it will not go bang.
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07-10-2012, 06:46 PM | #15 |
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It never makes sense when anyone is killed. All of it is saddening brother.
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07-10-2012, 07:16 PM | #17 |
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[quote=Blueface;1677059 If in the heat of the moment, you have to pull the gun, remember to pull the slide and then aim and shoot, you will likely be dead long before the bullet makes it to the chamber. [/QUOTE]
Unless you train consistently that way, Carlos. In the heat of the moment, one who trains regularly will revert back to how he trains instinctually. I train in the range, with my off-duty weapon, to draw, rack and fire.
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I hit the rang twice a month on average. I try to practice drawing regularly but since my carry is a Ruger LCP, with that small slide, not sure I can practice enough to be comfortable. I want to get something bigger like a Glock 26 for more times than not and would definitely feel better racking that slide in a bind.
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07-10-2012, 09:17 PM | #19 |
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Yeah Tom, and if one trains constantly and you find yourself in a possible shoot out, my weapon always appears in my hand, chambered, aiming, and ready to fire and guess what, I don't even remember drawing it, it was automatically in my hand. Wow.
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07-10-2012, 03:00 PM | #20 |
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I looked at all this and can see it happen. There are probably details that are being witheld to protect the victim, that'd be my best guess.
It boils down to a tragic accident. Most accidents don't happen as a result of one odd thing taking place, it's usually a string of human errors that lead to catastrophe. I just hope Adaisha's parents can find the explanation they're looking for. Odds are they won't accept the truth, it'll be stranger than fiction. All details aside, everyone involved could use our prayers.
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