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Old 06-02-2012, 05:07 PM   #1
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The Rocky Patel Cuban Blend Maduro? I searched but nothing found.
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Old 06-02-2012, 05:13 PM   #2
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I have a serious problem with a brand that sells itself as premium, yet still dyes some of its cigars.
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Old 06-02-2012, 07:36 PM   #3
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I have a serious problem with a brand that sells itself as premium, yet still dyes some of its cigars.
Bingo.

Remember years ago smoking a RP decade and halfway into it a friend noticed my lips have turned black. Was my last RP.
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Old 11-17-2012, 10:24 PM   #4
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I have a serious problem with a brand that sells itself as premium, yet still dyes some of its cigars.
In a washing machine, at that.
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Old 11-17-2012, 10:34 PM   #5
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Lot of RP haters on this site. They aren't my favorite cigar by any means but I've never had any problems with them.
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Old 11-18-2012, 10:44 PM   #6
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Lot of RP haters on this site. They aren't my favorite cigar by any means but I've never had any problems with them.
+1 -- Never had any RP issues. Although, personally I've never smoked any darker RPs. So.. Yeah... Still, RPs are good for what they are... And that's about it.
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Old 06-02-2012, 05:41 PM   #7
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I smoked one about 2 years ago. I remember liking it quite a bit.
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Old 06-02-2012, 06:19 PM   #8
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This is the one of two Rocky Patel sticks that I actually enjoy. These are a winner in my book.
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Old 06-02-2012, 08:40 PM   #9
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Thanks. Its a fairly inexpensive stick also. Ill try a few
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Old 06-03-2012, 06:25 PM   #10
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3 bucks per regularly on the Monster. Tremendous value. Only RP I still buy regularly. Great example of a deep, sweet, maduro. All sizes good, but I think the little torps taste best. I've never met anyone who tried one and didn't like 'em.
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I realize this is old, but I was gravedigging and seen this.. I have always been a bit weary of trying them, but I think I may pull the trigger just to see what happens. If nothing else, at least I'll have something to fill out my humi :-)
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Old 11-17-2012, 08:32 PM   #12
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Sounds interesting, but after an Edge maduro turned my fingers black, I hardly smoke any RPs anymore. I just smoked a Pinar Del Rio Oscuro, which has been my favorite cheapie dark wrapper smoke for quite a while. Can usually be had for $2-$3 per stick on the devil site.
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Sounds interesting, but after an Edge maduro turned my fingers black, I hardly smoke any RPs anymore. I just smoked a Pinar Del Rio Oscuro, which has been my favorite cheapie dark wrapper smoke for quite a while. Can usually be had for $2-$3 per stick on the devil site.
Ditto,I love the PDR's too
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Old 11-18-2012, 12:06 PM   #14
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Smoked quite a few RPs. I did have a dye incident many years ago with an Edge maduro. It was an extremely dark stick, so much so it made me wonder how it could get that way other than being dyed. Well, fingers and lips brown. Last one of those. I think it's a BS practice. I do enjoy a Vintage 90 or 92 or Decades when the price is right. Never had the Cuban Blend maduro, though. Might want to try it in the future.
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Old 12-05-2012, 04:49 PM   #15
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Smoked quite a few RPs. I did have a dye incident many years ago with an Edge maduro. It was an extremely dark stick, so much so it made me wonder how it could get that way other than being dyed. Well, fingers and lips brown. Last one of those. I think it's a BS practice. I do enjoy a Vintage 90 or 92 or Decades when the price is right. Never had the Cuban Blend maduro, though. Might want to try it in the future.
This is an interesting discussion, while RP is not the only guilty one, it seems that many RPs have hit the dyeing vats (washing machines). The RP Old World Reserve was dyed, and that was an expensive stick!

So its a little off topic, but my understanding is that cigar manufacturers dye for two reasons:
- To cover up bad or miscolored wrapper leaf / make the cigar look more presentable;
- To make a cigar look like a maduro (and even call it a maduro at times) without going through the time consuming and somewhat costly process of true Maduro fermentation.

Either way, it sounds like a bit of a cop-out to me personally. Id still try a dyed cigar - heck I liked the Partagas Black some years ago - but I dont think Id put dyed sticks on my quantity purchase list.

I guess smoke what ya like!
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This is an interesting discussion, while RP is not the only guilty one, it seems that many RPs have hit the dyeing vats (washing machines). The RP Old World Reserve was dyed, and that was an expensive stick!

So its a little off topic, but my understanding is that cigar manufacturers dye for two reasons:
- To cover up bad or miscolored wrapper leaf / make the cigar look more presentable;
- To make a cigar look like a maduro (and even call it a maduro at times) without going through the time consuming and somewhat costly process of true Maduro fermentation.

Either way, it sounds like a bit of a cop-out to me personally. Id still try a dyed cigar - heck I liked the Partagas Black some years ago - but I dont think Id put dyed sticks on my quantity purchase list.

I guess smoke what ya like!
Your second reason is an interesting one; I hadn't thought of that. I would avoid the cigars from any company that was doing such a thing.
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Old 11-18-2012, 05:17 PM   #17
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I have been curious about these also.
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Old 11-18-2012, 11:19 PM   #18
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I really think that Rocky Patel's differ greatly in their different blends...

There is a big difference in the flavors of his many blends from ROTT to the month to the 6 month/year mark... I find almost none of them are good ROTT and they get too bland around a year... 4 to 6 months I have found to be the best but I still have some aging up to see what happens

Also, as I have noticed, depending where you get them can matter as well (for instance Thompsons v. Famous, Famous v. CI)

I have tried many of the RP lines for the simple fact his initials are the same as mine...LoL

Some of my favorites,
RP Honduran Blend- Famous Exclusive
RP Old World Reserve MADURO- from what I hear the Crojo Sucks...
RP Edge Maduro- Yes it is dyed, still strong and tasty... IMHO...
RP Royal Vintage- Pretty good for a bargain smoke... Creamy voluminous smoke...
RP Patel Bros- Not the Next Gen. This used to be a Thompson exclusive.. Can only find boxes there... 5 Packs on famous are better...

The Thompson RP's are nasty!!! I get my RP's from CI or Famous


ALSO, what is it with everyone hating on a dyed wrapper? I have never had my mouth turn black, perhaps a little on my fingers if I play with my saliva?- Who does that anyway?

A few of the Diesels are dyed also, the un-holy cocktail comes to mind... I never hear anyone giving them flack about that...
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Thanks for the rundown, Robulous. I'm not an RP hater, either -- though I smoke FAR fewer than I did years ago. However, aside from the OR Patel Bros, my list differs considerably.....

Only RP's I'd recommend anymore:
1. Edge Corojo (or OR Edge Sumatra, if you can get your hands on one - NOT same as current release.) --- Note: the devil site has Edge seconds advertised as RP X-Out Liga 'A'. The corojo are good, but IMHO, they are shipped before they're ready. After 6 months, I can't tell them from firsts.
2. Cuban Blend Maduro (Famous)
3. RP Bros OR, if you can find any -- got a box on closeout from Atlantic last year and down to last 2 or 3.
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Thanks for the rundown, Robulous. I'm not an RP hater, either -- though I smoke FAR fewer than I did years ago. However, aside from the OR Patel Bros, my list differs considerably.....

Only RP's I'd recommend anymore:
1. Edge Corojo (or OR Edge Sumatra, if you can get your hands on one - NOT same as current release.) --- Note: the devil site has Edge seconds advertised as RP X-Out Liga 'A'. The corojo are good, but IMHO, they are shipped before they're ready. After 6 months, I can't tell them from firsts.
2. Cuban Blend Maduro (Famous)
3. RP Bros OR, if you can find any -- got a box on closeout from Atlantic last year and down to last 2 or 3.
Yea... Those Patel bros are great...

Know anymore about them? Do I need to stock up before they dissapear?
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