Partagas....

Thrak · 07-19-2011, 05:59 PM

I've had 5 Partagas sticks now. 3 Black and 2 Cifuentes... well, let me correct that, I've TRIED to have 5 Partagas sticks. They have all had MAJOR draw issues which rendered them worthless. The Blacks were so bad I envoked the CI guarantee and got my money back.

How many chances do you give a brand? Have I just had extremely bad luck?

Bax · 07-19-2011, 06:01 PM

After 5 I'd dump them. I liked the Gurks until I have about a half dozen that were just God awful.

Emjaysmash · 07-19-2011, 06:40 PM

I don't smoke many NC Partagas'. In fact, the only one I've had in the last two years was a Cifuentes. They just don't float my boat. I haven't had draw problems with them, however.

SvilleKid · 07-19-2011, 06:54 PM

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Originally Posted by Thrak

I've had 5 Partagas sticks now. 3 Black and 2 Cifuentes... well, let me correct that, I've TRIED to have 5 Partagas sticks. They have all had MAJOR draw issues which rendered them worthless. The Blacks were so bad I envoked the CI guarantee and got my money back.

How many chances do you give a brand? Have I just had extremely bad luck?

I assume they all came from CI? Let them rest for a couple weeks, or dry-box them? Just wondering, because everything I always got from CI or Cbid was always well over-humidified, and always had draw issues when fresh. I rarely smoked anything from CI sooner than a month from getting them. I haven't gotten anything from CI in several years, and was wondering if they were still shipping over-humidified?

Gophernut · 07-19-2011, 07:00 PM

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Originally Posted by SvilleKid

I I haven't gotten anything from CI in several years, and was wondering if they were still shipping over-humidified?

My last shipment sure seemed to be. 1 week in my 65% humi and still was hard to keep lit.

Thrak · 07-19-2011, 07:07 PM

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Originally Posted by SvilleKid

I assume they all came from CI? Let them rest for a couple weeks, or dry-box them? Just wondering, because everything I always got from CI or Cbid was always well over-humidified, and always had draw issues when fresh. I rarely smoked anything from CI sooner than a month from getting them. I haven't gotten anything from CI in several years, and was wondering if they were still shipping over-humidified?

The one I tried tonight has at least 2 months on it, the Blacks had at least a month.

I havent had problems with CI. I've got a good enough stock I can let them rest a while...

Bill86 · 07-19-2011, 06:59 PM

I've had NC partagas, they are awful. Horrible injustice to the name "Partagas".

The blacks tasted like soap and ...something else fowl. I forget. Plastic maybe?

I dunno they sat in my wooden desktop at the time for probably 2 months before smoking them...Wasn't my fault they were bad, just....bad.

If I try maybe 3 cigars from a brand and don't like them. I'll never buy another from that brand.

I do agree with Cliff though, CI is horrible. Get your smokes elsewhere.

Col. Kurtz · 07-19-2011, 07:13 PM

I wonder if they really ship from the warehouse that wet, or if the 90% RH in transit has more of an effect?

Dunkel · 07-19-2011, 07:30 PM

My friends and I have had draw trouble with Partagas Blacks for years. When they draw good they are decent but when they don't they are like smoking a broomstick.

Pat1075 · 07-19-2011, 07:38 PM

I've always had a bad experience with the partagas black, and I did give it a fair shake. The first time it was sick as a dog, just tasted like windex. The second time it was plugged. The third time, it was plugged as well. Though it could have just as easily been frozen because I was chewing on it and I was trying to smoke it outside watching the fireworks in colorado on a particularly cold new years.

JJG · 07-19-2011, 09:43 PM

I think NC Partagas are notoriously bad. The only time I have had a B&M employee tell me NOT to buy a cigar was when I picked up a Partagas.

The Benji Master Series was a joke too, complete waste of money in my opinion.

It's unfortunate, as someone else mentioned since the the original CC Partagas line is top notch.

St. Lou Stu · 07-19-2011, 09:48 PM

When the Blacks are on... they are on!
That said... I can only recall literally a handful that were on out of 50 or so that I've had.
The regular NC Partagas that I've had have mostly been dog rockets.
They had a seasonal line (Summer, Winter and Fall) that was phenomenal... I still have a box and a half from '04.

Thrak · 07-20-2011, 01:46 PM

Man I thought I was the only one lol

I havent had the opportunity to try a CC one, but I think I'm done with the NCs... Fool me once shame on you, fool me twice shame on me, fool me 5 times and shame on err.. its a shame!

BigCat · 07-20-2011, 03:17 PM

I smoke a lot of the blacks. I'm on my third or fourth box of the magnificos. I've seriously never had a bad stick. One of the more consistent smokes I've encountered in terms of both flavor and draw. It's a shame you've experienced otherwise.

alfredo_buscatti · 08-31-2011, 09:00 AM

I got a great buy from CI, not knowing their reputation, which, so far as I read here, stems only from selling over-humidified products. What else makes them so bad that some advocate not doing business with them?

Be that as it may, The box I bought from them, $39.00 for a box of 20 Cuba Libre churchills, were wet. I only let them sit in my humidor for three days
and smoked one, and the burn imploded: the draw remained but had little effect on burning the cigar; instead the wrapper turned black all around it, with a small amount of smoke.

The happy ending is that I smoked one today and both the burn and the taste were good.

Bill86 · 08-31-2011, 11:16 AM

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Originally Posted by alfredo_buscatti

I got a great buy from CI, not knowing their reputation, which, so far as I read here, stems only from selling over-humidified products. What else makes them so bad that some advocate not doing business with them?

Be that as it may, The box I bought from them, $39.00 for a box of 20 Cuba Libre churchills, were wet. I only let them sit in my humidor for three days
and smoked one, and the burn imploded: the draw remained but had little effect on burning the cigar; instead the wrapper turned black all around it, with a small amount of smoke.

The happy ending is that I smoked one today and both the burn and the taste were good.

They have shipped me out broken hygrometers 3 times. The humidor they shipped me had a leak in the bottom and the whole bottom molded out. They response was "tough $hit it's past the XX day warranty". My response was

They lost a customer because every shipment I got had a problem in some way. They shipped me a humi-care jar (yeah I was a noob) with the $hit spilled all over. What a mess.

3 for 3 with bad shipments, I refuse to deal with them anymore. They could be giving away free boxes and I would still tell them to

They never correct any of their problems and love telling you your purchases were past any return or refund date.

No reason to give them any business.

Buy from Cigarsatyourprice.com. Prices are usually cheaper and better service.

T.G · 08-31-2011, 11:25 AM

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Originally Posted by Bill86

They have shipped me out broken hygrometers 3 times. The humidor they shipped me had a leak in the bottom and the whole bottom molded out. They response was "tough $hit it's past the XX day warranty". My response was

They lost a customer because every shipment I got had a problem in some way. They shipped me a humi-care jar (yeah I was a noob) with the $hit spilled all over. What a mess.

3 for 3 with bad shipments, I refuse to deal with them anymore. They could be giving away free boxes and I would still tell them to

They never correct any of their problems and love telling you your purchases were past any return or refund date.

No reason to give them any business.

Buy from Cigarsatyourprice.com. Prices are usually cheaper and better service.

And CI turned me into a newt!

...but I got better.

Bill86 · 08-31-2011, 11:32 AM

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Originally Posted by T.G

And CI turned me into a newt!

...but I got better.

Subvet642 · 08-31-2011, 11:57 AM

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Originally Posted by T.G

And CI turned me into a newt!

...but I got better.

irratebass · 08-31-2011, 09:21 AM

Man and CI has such good prices....any others that people could suggest, I was really drooling over that new catalog too.

07-19-2011, 05:59 PM	#1
Thrak .. the man from Nantucket Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: Canton, GA Posts: 558 Trading: (2)	Partagas.... I've had 5 Partagas sticks now. 3 Black and 2 Cifuentes... well, let me correct that, I've TRIED to have 5 Partagas sticks. They have all had MAJOR draw issues which rendered them worthless. The Blacks were so bad I envoked the CI guarantee and got my money back. How many chances do you give a brand? Have I just had extremely bad luck?

07-19-2011, 06:01 PM	#2
Bax C A P S...CAPS CAPS CAPS! Join Date: Oct 2008 First Name: Tim Location: Ringgold,GA Posts: 2,173 Trading: (70)	Re: Partagas.... After 5 I'd dump them. I liked the Gurks until I have about a half dozen that were just God awful. __________________ I'm the most interesting man in the world... but only if you find stupid stuff really interesting.

07-19-2011, 06:40 PM	#3
Emjaysmash The Hebrew Hammer Join Date: Oct 2008 First Name: M.J. Location: Milwaukee, WI Posts: 7,025 Trading: (76)	Re: Partagas.... I don't smoke many NC Partagas'. In fact, the only one I've had in the last two years was a Cifuentes. They just don't float my boat. I haven't had draw problems with them, however. __________________

07-19-2011, 06:59 PM	#7
Bill86 Snob Join Date: Jul 2010 First Name: Bill Posts: 6,704 Trading: (67)	Re: Partagas.... I've had NC partagas, they are awful. Horrible injustice to the name "Partagas". The blacks tasted like soap and ...something else fowl. I forget. Plastic maybe? I dunno they sat in my wooden desktop at the time for probably 2 months before smoking them...Wasn't my fault they were bad, just....bad. If I try maybe 3 cigars from a brand and don't like them. I'll never buy another from that brand. I do agree with Cliff though, CI is horrible. Get your smokes elsewhere. __________________ I'm drunk......but I'll get drunker! - Doug Stanhope

07-19-2011, 07:13 PM	#8
Col. Kurtz Have My Own Room Join Date: Jan 2009 First Name: Jerry Location: South Appleton Posts: 1,839 Trading: (26)	Re: Partagas.... I wonder if they really ship from the warehouse that wet, or if the 90% RH in transit has more of an effect? __________________ Artillery Lends Dignity to What Would Otherwise Be a Vulgar Brawl

07-19-2011, 07:30 PM	#9
Dunkel Maduro & Oscuro Whore-O Join Date: Jun 2009 First Name: Doug Location: West by God Virginia Posts: 2,232 Trading: (75)	Re: Partagas.... My friends and I have had draw trouble with Partagas Blacks for years. When they draw good they are decent but when they don't they are like smoking a broomstick. __________________ Blue Label,Any Filipe Gregorio,Acid,Don Elias,El Mejor Espresso,Tierra del Sol

07-19-2011, 07:38 PM	#10
Pat1075 Feeling at Home Join Date: Nov 2008 First Name: Patrick Location: Lakewood, OH Posts: 755 Trading: (11)	Re: Partagas.... I've always had a bad experience with the partagas black, and I did give it a fair shake. The first time it was sick as a dog, just tasted like windex. The second time it was plugged. The third time, it was plugged as well. Though it could have just as easily been frozen because I was chewing on it and I was trying to smoke it outside watching the fireworks in colorado on a particularly cold new years.

07-19-2011, 09:43 PM	#11
JJG Have My Own Room Join Date: Jan 2009 First Name: Jeff Location: Houston Posts: 1,260 Trading: (4)	Re: Partagas.... I think NC Partagas are notoriously bad. The only time I have had a B&M employee tell me NOT to buy a cigar was when I picked up a Partagas. The Benji Master Series was a joke too, complete waste of money in my opinion. It's unfortunate, as someone else mentioned since the the original CC Partagas line is top notch.

07-19-2011, 09:48 PM	#12
St. Lou Stu Have My Own Room Join Date: Oct 2008 First Name: Tim Location: Belleville, IL (St. Louis) Posts: 2,304 Trading: (21)	Re: Partagas.... When the Blacks are on... they are on! That said... I can only recall literally a handful that were on out of 50 or so that I've had. The regular NC Partagas that I've had have mostly been dog rockets. They had a seasonal line (Summer, Winter and Fall) that was phenomenal... I still have a box and a half from '04. __________________ Pretending to play golf since 1989

07-20-2011, 01:46 PM	#13
Thrak .. the man from Nantucket Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: Canton, GA Posts: 558 Trading: (2)	Re: Partagas.... Man I thought I was the only one lol I havent had the opportunity to try a CC one, but I think I'm done with the NCs... Fool me once shame on you, fool me twice shame on me, fool me 5 times and shame on err.. its a shame!

07-20-2011, 03:17 PM	#14
BigCat My back is now unwatched. Join Date: Apr 2009 First Name: Colin Location: Metro Detroit Posts: 723 Trading: (5)	Re: Partagas.... I smoke a lot of the blacks. I'm on my third or fourth box of the magnificos. I've seriously never had a bad stick. One of the more consistent smokes I've encountered in terms of both flavor and draw. It's a shame you've experienced otherwise. __________________ "Now, I don't approve of dissipation, and I don't indulge in it either; but I haven't a particle of confidence in a man who has no redeeming petty vices." Mark Twain

08-31-2011, 09:00 AM	#15
alfredo_buscatti Adjusting to the Life Join Date: Jan 2011 First Name: Mike Location: Piedmont, NC Posts: 277 Trading: (9)	Re: Partagas.... I got a great buy from CI, not knowing their reputation, which, so far as I read here, stems only from selling over-humidified products. What else makes them so bad that some advocate not doing business with them? Be that as it may, The box I bought from them, $39.00 for a box of 20 Cuba Libre churchills, were wet. I only let them sit in my humidor for three days and smoked one, and the burn imploded: the draw remained but had little effect on burning the cigar; instead the wrapper turned black all around it, with a small amount of smoke. The happy ending is that I smoked one today and both the burn and the taste were good.

08-31-2011, 09:21 AM	#20
irratebass EMPEROR TOMPKINS Join Date: Aug 2011 First Name: Mickey Location: Mooresville, Indiana Posts: 8,313 Trading: (48)	Re: Partagas.... Man and CI has such good prices....any others that people could suggest, I was really drooling over that new catalog too. __________________