Edgestar 28 bottle & Humidity

Bill86 · 06-29-2011, 03:35 PM

New to the whole Edgestar/Vino thing.

I'm still struggling with the Coolidor to edgestar transition. Basically the edgestar holds temperature good. Not humidity though. It's a 28 bottle and I have 2 pounds of beads in it. More than enough. It's at 56 RH/66 temperature right now.

So I tossed in 2 shotglasses of distilled water, a 8oz rocks glass and 4 69 RH boveda packs placed all around the edgestar. Also I put an Oust fan in there for good measure.

I did just recharge the beads as well. So there's really no reason it shouldn't be 65 RH.

It is still at 56-59 RH. I'm not sure why. Suggestions?

I'm waiting on shelves for it, so right now it's just boxes and the Edgestar. No shelves or drawers.

I see that drip spout in the back does occasionally drip a drop or two of water, do I plug it up? Where will the water go if I plug it?

06-29-2011, 03:51 PM

I have no experience with these, but I can offer up the first thing that came to my mind.

-Is the door getting a good seal?

Bill86 · 06-29-2011, 03:57 PM

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Originally Posted by kickerb

I have no experience with these, but I can offer up the first thing that came to my mind.

-Is the door getting a good seal?

I thought about that too, here's the thing it's holding temperature.

It's in a 74 degree room, the edgestar is at 65 degrees.

I think the temperature will go down too as the days go on because all the cigars are at ~70 degrees. The edgestar is set to about 62-63 degrees. So it is fighting the higher temperature of the cigars. It's full of cigar too, so it's got a lot to fight.

Before anyone mentions the hygro...it's good. I had it in the coolidor reading 65 RH and 70 degrees. Which is correct.

DPD6030 · 06-29-2011, 04:37 PM

Bill check this link out. It has some great info.

http://www.cigarasylum.com/vb/showth...highlight=vino

Bill86 · 06-29-2011, 04:47 PM

So apparently you cannot just store boxes on the bottom? Is this long term or what? I swear I've seen edgestars and vinos without shelves and just boxes. I'll probably still do it till the shelves come in. 7-14 days shouldn't cause any problems.

Still not sure that thread addresses a full issue on humidity....hmmm there's yet another link that says plugging it can solve humidity issues.

06-29-2011, 05:24 PM

do you have it plugged?

Bill86 · 06-29-2011, 05:25 PM

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Originally Posted by Sherlockholms

do you have it plugged?

I was hesitant to do this as there was water in the back tray. I just plugged it now.

I also put in one of the metal shelves to keep the boxes off the floor of the edgestar.

We'll see what happens.

06-29-2011, 05:29 PM

I think that will help, I assume its thermoelectric. Plugging the hole will help allot with keeping RH. I have read of people storing boxes on the bottom and the condensation builds up and soaks the boxes. If you put a tray of beads or a bag of beads over the hole it will help to catch some of the moisture.

Bill86 · 06-29-2011, 05:32 PM

Yeah I put one metal shelf in it for the time being to elevate all of my boxes. So the bottoms got room and there is a 1 lb bag of beads on the bottom.

There is also a 1 lb bag on the top of all my boxes.

The drains plugged with a piece of scotch tape over the hole.

It should be interesting to see if it holds RH now.

borndead1 · 06-29-2011, 05:47 PM

I have 2 Vinotemp 28s. Plugged the drain holes (no condensation problems ever), made some Spanish Cedar shelves, and I use a Cigar Oasis in both of them. Temp and RH are almost always around 68 degrees and 62-65% RH. I'm not a fan of beads.

It's a fun project, but it does take quite a bit of tweaking and playing around with stuff. But...I guess that's part of the fun. It's like a science fair project for an adult.

Bill86 · 06-29-2011, 05:53 PM

Yeah I'm looking to keep mine at 62-64 RH and 64-65 degrees. Hopefully it all works itself out.

borndead1 · 06-29-2011, 06:00 PM

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Originally Posted by Bill86

Yeah I'm looking to keep mine at 62-64 RH and 64-65 degrees. Hopefully it all works itself out.

At that temp your unit will run a lot. I tried 65* for a while and the fan hardly ever shut off. Are you trying to prevent beetle eggs from hatching? I wanted the temp low to combat beetles. But now I just freeze every cigar I buy and set the vino to kick on at 70*. Been about 3 yrs now and no beetle problems.

Bill86 · 06-29-2011, 06:08 PM

Never had beetle problems, I don't ever suspect I will. I'm fine with it running all the time.

Thing is it won't be plugged in for probably 6-8 months out of the year. Just the 4-6 months when it's warm.

borndead1 · 06-29-2011, 06:11 PM

Ahh, I see. Well, have fun with it man. It's definitely a trial and error project.

Bill86 · 06-29-2011, 06:12 PM

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Originally Posted by borndead1

Ahh, I see. Well, have fun with it man. It's definitely a trial and error project.

I've already noticed

I'm about to rip my hair out already. Coolidors are so much simpler, if only there was an easy way to control temperature in them.

big a · 06-29-2011, 08:02 PM

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Originally Posted by Bill86

I've already noticed

I'm about to rip my hair out already. Coolidors are so much simpler, if only there was an easy way to control temperature in them.

I didn't have any problem with mine as i just did what the thread said. I just used tape to close up the plug and let it go. What % of it is filled up with boxes? Mine did get much easier to maintain the more shelves, boxes and cigars i had in it. The bottom gap i filled up with boxes that i broke and threw under there for some extra cedar to help with the humidity. I did use a sponge when seasoning it rather than a shoot glass as i find that works better.

Bill86 · 06-29-2011, 08:33 PM

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Originally Posted by big a

I didn't have any problem with mine as i just did what the thread said. I just used tape to close up the plug and let it go. What % of it is filled up with boxes? Mine did get much easier to maintain the more shelves, boxes and cigars i had in it. The bottom gap i filled up with boxes that i broke and threw under there for some extra cedar to help with the humidity. I did use a sponge when seasoning it rather than a shoot glass as i find that works better.

100% filled with boxes.

Yes I figured it out, Frank took a bit.

Seems plugging the drain was all I had to do, my question is will there be water now inside the unit?

Plugged in at 62-65 degrees.

DPD6030 · 06-29-2011, 06:48 PM

Just send your cigars to me, I'll keep them in my vinotemp. My basement is usually around 62-67 degrees.

Drez · 06-29-2011, 08:10 PM

Bill like i told you. Mine with the drain plug taped up would not rise above 58%. After I removed the tape it and added some water it has gone up to 65% and holding steady.

Like mentioned it trial and error.

Drez · 06-29-2011, 08:44 PM

Run a piece of clear tape down to a little container to collect the water.

That's how I had it so that it doesn't collect on the bottom of the unit.

06-29-2011, 03:35 PM	#1
Bill86 Snob Join Date: Jul 2010 First Name: Bill Posts: 6,704 Trading: (67)	Edgestar 28 bottle & Humidity New to the whole Edgestar/Vino thing. I'm still struggling with the Coolidor to edgestar transition. Basically the edgestar holds temperature good. Not humidity though. It's a 28 bottle and I have 2 pounds of beads in it. More than enough. It's at 56 RH/66 temperature right now. So I tossed in 2 shotglasses of distilled water, a 8oz rocks glass and 4 69 RH boveda packs placed all around the edgestar. Also I put an Oust fan in there for good measure. I did just recharge the beads as well. So there's really no reason it shouldn't be 65 RH. It is still at 56-59 RH. I'm not sure why. Suggestions? I'm waiting on shelves for it, so right now it's just boxes and the Edgestar. No shelves or drawers. I see that drip spout in the back does occasionally drip a drop or two of water, do I plug it up? Where will the water go if I plug it?

06-29-2011, 03:51 PM	#2
kickerb Guest Posts: n/a	Re: Edgestar 28 bottle & Humidity I have no experience with these, but I can offer up the first thing that came to my mind. -Is the door getting a good seal?

06-29-2011, 04:37 PM	#4
DPD6030 Shepard of the sheeple Join Date: Oct 2008 First Name: Andrew Location: The Mitten Posts: 7,166 Trading: (151)	Re: Edgestar 28 bottle & Humidity Bill check this link out. It has some great info. http://www.cigarasylum.com/vb/showth...highlight=vino

06-29-2011, 04:47 PM	#5
Bill86 Snob Join Date: Jul 2010 First Name: Bill Posts: 6,704 Trading: (67)	Re: Edgestar 28 bottle & Humidity So apparently you cannot just store boxes on the bottom? Is this long term or what? I swear I've seen edgestars and vinos without shelves and just boxes. I'll probably still do it till the shelves come in. 7-14 days shouldn't cause any problems. Still not sure that thread addresses a full issue on humidity....hmmm there's yet another link that says plugging it can solve humidity issues.

06-29-2011, 05:24 PM	#6
Sherlockholms Guest Posts: n/a	Re: Edgestar 28 bottle & Humidity do you have it plugged?

06-29-2011, 05:29 PM	#8
Sherlockholms Guest Posts: n/a	Re: Edgestar 28 bottle & Humidity I think that will help, I assume its thermoelectric. Plugging the hole will help allot with keeping RH. I have read of people storing boxes on the bottom and the condensation builds up and soaks the boxes. If you put a tray of beads or a bag of beads over the hole it will help to catch some of the moisture.

06-29-2011, 05:32 PM	#9
Bill86 Snob Join Date: Jul 2010 First Name: Bill Posts: 6,704 Trading: (67)	Re: Edgestar 28 bottle & Humidity Yeah I put one metal shelf in it for the time being to elevate all of my boxes. So the bottoms got room and there is a 1 lb bag of beads on the bottom. There is also a 1 lb bag on the top of all my boxes. The drains plugged with a piece of scotch tape over the hole. It should be interesting to see if it holds RH now.

06-29-2011, 05:47 PM	#10
borndead1 Ayatollah of Rock n Rolla Join Date: Oct 2008 First Name: Mark Location: Lancaster, CA Posts: 1,364 Trading: (7)	Re: Edgestar 28 bottle & Humidity I have 2 Vinotemp 28s. Plugged the drain holes (no condensation problems ever), made some Spanish Cedar shelves, and I use a Cigar Oasis in both of them. Temp and RH are almost always around 68 degrees and 62-65% RH. I'm not a fan of beads. It's a fun project, but it does take quite a bit of tweaking and playing around with stuff. But...I guess that's part of the fun. It's like a science fair project for an adult. __________________ None are more hopelessly enslaved than those who falsely believe they are free.

06-29-2011, 05:53 PM	#11
Bill86 Snob Join Date: Jul 2010 First Name: Bill Posts: 6,704 Trading: (67)	Re: Edgestar 28 bottle & Humidity Yeah I'm looking to keep mine at 62-64 RH and 64-65 degrees. Hopefully it all works itself out.

06-29-2011, 06:08 PM	#13
Bill86 Snob Join Date: Jul 2010 First Name: Bill Posts: 6,704 Trading: (67)	Re: Edgestar 28 bottle & Humidity Never had beetle problems, I don't ever suspect I will. I'm fine with it running all the time. Thing is it won't be plugged in for probably 6-8 months out of the year. Just the 4-6 months when it's warm.

06-29-2011, 06:11 PM	#14
borndead1 Ayatollah of Rock n Rolla Join Date: Oct 2008 First Name: Mark Location: Lancaster, CA Posts: 1,364 Trading: (7)	Re: Edgestar 28 bottle & Humidity Ahh, I see. Well, have fun with it man. It's definitely a trial and error project. __________________ None are more hopelessly enslaved than those who falsely believe they are free.

06-29-2011, 06:48 PM	#18
DPD6030 Shepard of the sheeple Join Date: Oct 2008 First Name: Andrew Location: The Mitten Posts: 7,166 Trading: (151)	Re: Edgestar 28 bottle & Humidity Just send your cigars to me, I'll keep them in my vinotemp. My basement is usually around 62-67 degrees.

06-29-2011, 08:10 PM	#19
Drez The Warden Join Date: Jan 2010 First Name: Frank Location: Miami, FL Posts: 3,768 Trading: (35)	Re: Edgestar 28 bottle & Humidity Bill like i told you. Mine with the drain plug taped up would not rise above 58%. After I removed the tape it and added some water it has gone up to 65% and holding steady. Like mentioned it trial and error. __________________ They aren't going to multiply....burn that b!tch!

06-29-2011, 08:44 PM	#20
Drez The Warden Join Date: Jan 2010 First Name: Frank Location: Miami, FL Posts: 3,768 Trading: (35)	Re: Edgestar 28 bottle & Humidity Run a piece of clear tape down to a little container to collect the water. That's how I had it so that it doesn't collect on the bottom of the unit. __________________ They aren't going to multiply....burn that b!tch!