The Cigar gods are angry with me...

oooo35980 · 03-24-2011, 12:22 AM

So after buying a few cigars at the Navy Exchange, and finding them dry and tasteless. I decided to make a trip the AF base to see if they had a decent humidor. When I walked in the humidor was standing open, but the Hygrometer read 61rh 71f. Not ideal but better than the NEX where the hygrometer's battery was dead and god only knows what the conditions were in there.

I picked up 2 AF 8-5-8, a Cuesta-Rey #95, AF curly head, and Brick-House Toro. Then I went to grab an "El Baton" that had "Cigar Afficianado rated 91" on it. When I picked it up I noticed it was riddled with holes, as were several others in that box as well as the box adjacent to it (Also El Baton). I read a thread a few days ago about bugs and had no problems identifying tobacco beetles (Thanks CA). The things had eaten through the cellophane and all. I let the nice lady behind the counter know she had a problem and removed the offending boxes from the humidor for her. But I went ahead and bought the ones I had already picked out after I made sure they werent infested, on the outside anyway.

Was that a bad move? Im almost afraid to smoke these now, I only bought five and I'll have em smoked by Sunday probably so I'm not too worried about freezing them to kill the bugs, but should I have bought them at all? I don't want to be smoking a cigar and hear that wonderful "POP!" that you get when some insect gets set on fire and explodes. I'd prolly toss my cookies right then and there.

emopunker2004 · 03-24-2011, 12:24 AM

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Originally Posted by oooo35980

So after buying a few cigars at the Navy Exchange, and finding them dry and tasteless. I decided to make a trip the AF base to see if they had a decent humidor. When I walked in the humidor was standing open, but the Hygrometer read 61rh 71f. Not ideal but better than the NEX where the hygrometer's battery was dead and god only knows what the conditions were in there.

I picked up 2 AF 8-5-8, a Cuesta-Rey #95, AF curly head, and Brick-House Toro. Then I went to grab an "El Baton" that had "Cigar Afficianado rated 91" on it. When I picked it up I noticed it was riddled with holes, as were several others in that box as well as the box adjacent to it (Also El Baton). I read a thread a few days ago about bugs and had no problems identifying tobacco beetles (Thanks CA). The things had eaten through the cellophane and all. I let the nice lady behind the counter know she had a problem and removed the offending boxes from the humidor for her. But I went ahead and bought the ones I had already picked out after I made sure they werent infested, on the outside anyway.

Was that a bad move? Im almost afraid to smoke these now, I only bought five and I'll have em smoked by Sunday probably so I'm not too worried about freezing them to kill the bugs, but should I have bought them at all? I don't want to be smoking a cigar and hear that wonderful "POP!" that you get when some insect gets set on fire and explodes. I'd prolly toss my cookies right then and there.

Freezer

03-24-2011, 02:09 AM

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Originally Posted by emopunker2004

Freezer

No dice. A freezer is a great solution if you're planning on storing them long term. But you're going to smoke them before the week's end, so just smoke them, and don't get sticks in that condition next time. Also, don't put them in with any other sticks you may have for now.

oooo35980 · 03-24-2011, 02:38 AM

So I should have just steered clear of that humidor? I've read up on beetles but can't seem to find anything about how fast they spread through a humidor.

03-24-2011, 12:58 PM

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Originally Posted by oooo35980

So I should have just steered clear of that humidor? I've read up on beetles but can't seem to find anything about how fast they spread through a humidor.

By that condition I mean with holes in them. You don't need to steer clear of the retailer per se, I simply suggest not purchasing sticks with apparent beetle damage.

NCRadioMan · 03-24-2011, 03:39 AM

Sounds like you don't have much choice unless you start to mail order. I wouldn't write them off just yet.

If you go in again, be sure to inspect what you are buying carefully. Then keep them separate from your other stored cigars and freeze if you plan on keeping them a while. The beetles could have started to hatch in transit to the shop so the they could just be a victim of circumstance too.

The conditions you found sound good, to me. Ready to smoke right out of the humidor.

dannyboy · 03-24-2011, 05:54 AM

Those conditions seem OK as far as rh and temp go. Hawaii can be tough with the beetles, since most places can get into the 80's daily unless there is climate control (not always the case in many places). I used to keep my cigars in a desktop and found one cigar with a beetle hole - went right out and got a small vinotemp for temperature control. I now keep a close eye on my sticks and have them in locations that stay cool. Beetles can also appear in a box here or there and not spread to the other boxes. So long as the cigars you bought have no holes, you should be ok since you are not storing them for a long period.

When you live in Hawaii, mail order is the way to go. Cigar International, New Havana, Corona, etc have always been good to me and I usually get the cigars within a week of ordering. Also, check out the cigar shops around town, I know there is one by the convention center right next to the Ala Moana hotel and if you pm jdakine, he can point you to a couple others that are good. Taxes are high, and thus so are the prices, but knowledgable staff, proper storage conditions, and a good selections of singles to try may be worth the extra investment.

If you are ever on Maui, let me know, we herf a couple times every week and would enjoy having you.

CoreyD · 03-24-2011, 06:37 AM

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Originally Posted by dannyboy

If you are ever on Maui, let me know, we herf a couple times every week and would enjoy having you.

I'm assuming that he could just swim or boat there eh? I mean how close are these islands.

68TriShield · 03-24-2011, 07:11 AM

Don't concern yourself with smoking beetle infested cigars,it add flavor

Ashcan Bill · 03-24-2011, 09:02 AM

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Originally Posted by 68TriShield

Don't concern yourself with smoking beetle infested cigars,it add flavor

Not to mention a bit of protein to your diet.

BamBam · 03-24-2011, 07:09 AM

Read this thread by Silverfox, follow the instructions and you will have no worries.

http://www.cigarasylum.com/vb/showth...ience+freezing

I have used it on my entire collection because of increasing temperatures in the summer in my humi, and fortunately have never had an outbreak.

As far as the RH at 61% and the temp at 71 F, I wouldn't worry about that. I store my entire collection at 65%, and have heard of some storing them at around 60% or even as low as the high 50%s (less than 60% would make me a little nervous though).

Hope it helps.

OLS · 03-24-2011, 09:11 AM

As you smoke, listen for little POPs...no, I am not kidding. You will be fine, though.

T.G · 03-24-2011, 11:56 AM

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Originally Posted by OLS

As you smoke, listen for little POPs...no, I am not kidding. You will be fine, though.

And if you get a few beetles bursting all at the same time...

oooo35980 · 03-24-2011, 11:50 AM

Okie Dokie then, thanks guys. I smoked the Cuesta Rey last night and nothing weird happened, it was surprisingly good, really mild, but good. I plan on buyin online I'm just not there yet. Still figuring out what I like before I start buying lots of cigars. I pretty much just buy it then smoke it at this point. Which is expensive in Hawaii except for the military stores. I wish the NEX humidor was in good condition, thy have a huge selection.

shilala · 03-24-2011, 11:55 AM

I'm glad you just manned up and smoked them. Like the guys said, it won't hurt you a bit. What you really want to be concerned about is bringing the bugs to your stocked humi, then leaving it unattended and hot. That's like a beetle factory.
The whole beetle thing gets blown way out of proportion, much like lots of things. Shaun's article is a good read, and it'll take the scare out for ya.

oooo35980 · 03-24-2011, 12:11 PM

I think I'm gonna go outta my way not to listen to the little pops. "Mmm what's that fricasseed beetle innard flavor on the back of my palate."

Aero95 · 03-24-2011, 12:18 PM

Have you joined the newbie sampler trade yet? You would definitely get great smokes that have been taken care of.

BloodSpite · 03-24-2011, 12:54 PM

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Originally Posted by oooo35980

So after buying a few cigars at the Navy Exchange, and finding them dry and tasteless. I decided to make a trip the AF base to see if they had a decent humidor. When I walked in the humidor was standing open, but the Hygrometer read 61rh 71f. Not ideal but better than the NEX where the hygrometer's battery was dead and god only knows what the conditions were in there.

I picked up 2 AF 8-5-8, a Cuesta-Rey #95, AF curly head, and Brick-House Toro. Then I went to grab an "El Baton" that had "Cigar Afficianado rated 91" on it. When I picked it up I noticed it was riddled with holes, as were several others in that box as well as the box adjacent to it (Also El Baton). I read a thread a few days ago about bugs and had no problems identifying tobacco beetles (Thanks CA). The things had eaten through the cellophane and all. I let the nice lady behind the counter know she had a problem and removed the offending boxes from the humidor for her. But I went ahead and bought the ones I had already picked out after I made sure they werent infested, on the outside anyway.

Was that a bad move? Im almost afraid to smoke these now, I only bought five and I'll have em smoked by Sunday probably so I'm not too worried about freezing them to kill the bugs, but should I have bought them at all? I don't want to be smoking a cigar and hear that wonderful "POP!" that you get when some insect gets set on fire and explodes. I'd prolly toss my cookies right then and there.

Must be a Navy or AF thing. In the Army we ate bugs

oooo35980 · 03-24-2011, 12:59 PM

I hit my quota of bugs from the galley food. If can keep from eating or inhaling bugs I definately will

.

I didn't buy any of the ones with holes, I just pulled a punch out and gave them to the chick behind the counter.

03-24-2011, 01:06 PM

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Originally Posted by oooo35980

I didn't buy any of the ones with holes, I just pulled a punch out and gave them to the chick behind the counter.

You should be all set then. I guess the cigar gods have shined on you after all.

03-24-2011, 12:22 AM	#1
oooo35980 Feeling at Home Join Date: Mar 2011 First Name: Isaiah Location: Huntsville, AL Posts: 569 Trading: (3)	The Cigar gods are angry with me... So after buying a few cigars at the Navy Exchange, and finding them dry and tasteless. I decided to make a trip the AF base to see if they had a decent humidor. When I walked in the humidor was standing open, but the Hygrometer read 61rh 71f. Not ideal but better than the NEX where the hygrometer's battery was dead and god only knows what the conditions were in there. I picked up 2 AF 8-5-8, a Cuesta-Rey #95, AF curly head, and Brick-House Toro. Then I went to grab an "El Baton" that had "Cigar Afficianado rated 91" on it. When I picked it up I noticed it was riddled with holes, as were several others in that box as well as the box adjacent to it (Also El Baton). I read a thread a few days ago about bugs and had no problems identifying tobacco beetles (Thanks CA). The things had eaten through the cellophane and all. I let the nice lady behind the counter know she had a problem and removed the offending boxes from the humidor for her. But I went ahead and bought the ones I had already picked out after I made sure they werent infested, on the outside anyway. Was that a bad move? Im almost afraid to smoke these now, I only bought five and I'll have em smoked by Sunday probably so I'm not too worried about freezing them to kill the bugs, but should I have bought them at all? I don't want to be smoking a cigar and hear that wonderful "POP!" that you get when some insect gets set on fire and explodes. I'd prolly toss my cookies right then and there.

03-24-2011, 02:38 AM	#4
oooo35980 Feeling at Home Join Date: Mar 2011 First Name: Isaiah Location: Huntsville, AL Posts: 569 Trading: (3)	Re: The Cigar gods are angry with me... So I should have just steered clear of that humidor? I've read up on beetles but can't seem to find anything about how fast they spread through a humidor.

03-24-2011, 03:39 AM	#6
NCRadioMan Chutney Lovebusciut Join Date: Oct 2008 First Name: Chutney Location: On the shores of Loch Shiel Posts: 4,277 Trading: (66)	Re: The Cigar gods are angry with me... Sounds like you don't have much choice unless you start to mail order. I wouldn't write them off just yet. If you go in again, be sure to inspect what you are buying carefully. Then keep them separate from your other stored cigars and freeze if you plan on keeping them a while. The beetles could have started to hatch in transit to the shop so the they could just be a victim of circumstance too. The conditions you found sound good, to me. Ready to smoke right out of the humidor. __________________ The path to loyalty is trust.

03-24-2011, 05:54 AM	#7
dannyboy Still Watching My Back Join Date: Oct 2008 First Name: Daniel Location: Maui, HI Posts: 202 Trading: (31)	Re: The Cigar gods are angry with me... Those conditions seem OK as far as rh and temp go. Hawaii can be tough with the beetles, since most places can get into the 80's daily unless there is climate control (not always the case in many places). I used to keep my cigars in a desktop and found one cigar with a beetle hole - went right out and got a small vinotemp for temperature control. I now keep a close eye on my sticks and have them in locations that stay cool. Beetles can also appear in a box here or there and not spread to the other boxes. So long as the cigars you bought have no holes, you should be ok since you are not storing them for a long period. When you live in Hawaii, mail order is the way to go. Cigar International, New Havana, Corona, etc have always been good to me and I usually get the cigars within a week of ordering. Also, check out the cigar shops around town, I know there is one by the convention center right next to the Ala Moana hotel and if you pm jdakine, he can point you to a couple others that are good. Taxes are high, and thus so are the prices, but knowledgable staff, proper storage conditions, and a good selections of singles to try may be worth the extra investment. If you are ever on Maui, let me know, we herf a couple times every week and would enjoy having you.

03-24-2011, 07:09 AM	#11
BamBam Just Pipin' Join Date: Oct 2008 Posts: 1,299 Trading: (37)	Re: The Cigar gods are angry with me... Read this thread by Silverfox, follow the instructions and you will have no worries. http://www.cigarasylum.com/vb/showth...ience+freezing I have used it on my entire collection because of increasing temperatures in the summer in my humi, and fortunately have never had an outbreak. As far as the RH at 61% and the temp at 71 F, I wouldn't worry about that. I store my entire collection at 65%, and have heard of some storing them at around 60% or even as low as the high 50%s (less than 60% would make me a little nervous though). Hope it helps.

03-24-2011, 07:11 AM	#9
68TriShield Got Torque? Join Date: Oct 2008 First Name: Dave Location: Maryland Posts: 7,194 Trading: (40)	Re: The Cigar gods are angry with me... Don't concern yourself with smoking beetle infested cigars,it add flavor

03-24-2011, 09:11 AM	#12
OLS Suck It Join Date: Oct 2008 First Name: Brad Location: TN Posts: 7,912 Trading: (19)	Re: The Cigar gods are angry with me... As you smoke, listen for little POPs...no, I am not kidding. You will be fine, though.

03-24-2011, 11:50 AM	#14
oooo35980 Feeling at Home Join Date: Mar 2011 First Name: Isaiah Location: Huntsville, AL Posts: 569 Trading: (3)	Re: The Cigar gods are angry with me... Okie Dokie then, thanks guys. I smoked the Cuesta Rey last night and nothing weird happened, it was surprisingly good, really mild, but good. I plan on buyin online I'm just not there yet. Still figuring out what I like before I start buying lots of cigars. I pretty much just buy it then smoke it at this point. Which is expensive in Hawaii except for the military stores. I wish the NEX humidor was in good condition, thy have a huge selection.

03-24-2011, 11:55 AM	#15
shilala Dear Lord, Thank You. Join Date: Oct 2008 First Name: Scott Posts: 13,721 Trading: (252)	Re: The Cigar gods are angry with me... I'm glad you just manned up and smoked them. Like the guys said, it won't hurt you a bit. What you really want to be concerned about is bringing the bugs to your stocked humi, then leaving it unattended and hot. That's like a beetle factory. The whole beetle thing gets blown way out of proportion, much like lots of things. Shaun's article is a good read, and it'll take the scare out for ya. __________________

03-24-2011, 12:11 PM	#16
oooo35980 Feeling at Home Join Date: Mar 2011 First Name: Isaiah Location: Huntsville, AL Posts: 569 Trading: (3)	Re: The Cigar gods are angry with me... I think I'm gonna go outta my way not to listen to the little pops. "Mmm what's that fricasseed beetle innard flavor on the back of my palate."

03-24-2011, 12:18 PM	#17
Aero95 Adjusting to the Life Join Date: Jan 2011 First Name: Aaron Location: Loveland Ohio Posts: 295 Trading: (2)	Re: The Cigar gods are angry with me... Have you joined the newbie sampler trade yet? You would definitely get great smokes that have been taken care of. __________________ "If I cannot smoke in heaven, then I shall not go." -- Mark Twain

03-24-2011, 12:59 PM	#19
oooo35980 Feeling at Home Join Date: Mar 2011 First Name: Isaiah Location: Huntsville, AL Posts: 569 Trading: (3)	Re: The Cigar gods are angry with me... I hit my quota of bugs from the galley food. If can keep from eating or inhaling bugs I definately will . I didn't buy any of the ones with holes, I just pulled a punch out and gave them to the chick behind the counter.