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03-23-2011, 01:29 PM | #1 |
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Review terminology
I have read a lot of cigar reviews in which various terms are used to describe the flavor of a cigar: nutty, earthy, coffee, soil, floral, nutmeg, etc. I know that the palette of a new cigar smoker takes time to develop, but there are a lot of times that I get tastes from my cigar that I can't quite put a finger on. Then when I read another review, I think, "Oh, yeah! That's what that taste was!" In other words, I know it when I read it, but not necessarily when I taste it alone.
I was wondering if any of you experienced smokers could put out a list of some of the more common flavors to help noobs like me begin to develop a palette and a range of tastes to match up. Once we learn 'em, we're on our way. It's just getting started that can be difficult. Thanks! |
03-23-2011, 01:32 PM | #2 |
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Type "flavor wheel" into google and you should get a lot of different images for just this purpose.
Here is one to get you started: http://www.jacksoysterhouse.com/images/Flavorwheel.jpg Here is also another thread on the subject: http://www.cigarasylum.com/vb/showth...t=flavor+wheel
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03-23-2011, 01:36 PM | #3 | |
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03-23-2011, 02:32 PM | #6 |
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Great information, but I am still looking for something. I have heard the term "barnyard" used to describe flavor and have always wondered what exactly barnyard would taste like. I didn't see it on any of the flavor wheels. Can someone please tell me where they would put it on the wheel or what flavors on the wheel that it may be close to. Thanks!
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But as with "barnyard" and many other flavors, you won't know what they are until you have thoroughly experienced them. I did a taste test of sorts a while back and it had some very interesting results to what someone tastes in a cigar and how those flavors must have the "mental links" in order to pick them out. Also note that Dana Small (a taste/flavor scientist) recorded this: Quote:
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03-23-2011, 02:45 PM | #8 | |
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Here are the results and discussion from that experiment:
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03-23-2011, 03:08 PM | #9 | |
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I usually hear "barnyard" used in reference to a scent/fragrance off the cigar, usually unlit. I usually associate this naming with the smell of a barn -- hay, grass, cow poop. It would be a deep, organic smell, with possibly some lighter (hay, grass) hints, too. Personally, I can imagine the taste associated with grass or hay. But, I'll trust other's tastes on cow poop. |
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03-23-2011, 04:29 PM | #10 | |
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03-23-2011, 04:36 PM | #11 |
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I personally hate when people say "barnyard smell". I for one believe 2 things
1. 99% of these people have never smelled a barnyard 2. They say this because everyone else does. (oh yeah barnyard definitely ....no big on this one) I almost disregard reviews completely when I hear this, I certainly stop the videos. I would accept, hay or straw or something of that sort though. To me a barnyard would probably smell foul or filthy or like animals. I don't think cigars smell like that, at all. If they did I probably wouldn't smoke them. What I do is this, I smoke a cigar in my head I remember what I taste. Then I compare my notes (mental notes, no one including myself could read my writing) to other reviews (often by the vendors or other members of CA). Usually I'm shooting 90%+ on what other people pick up. I might miss a bit here and there, but as long as the review isn't done by a professional food taster that can pick out every last spice/seasoning I'm not doing too bad. |
03-23-2011, 09:23 PM | #12 | |
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03-24-2011, 07:29 PM | #13 | |
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I will readily agree that I have never tasted a cigar that tasted like a filthy feedlot or pig sty. I have smelled several cigars that strongly scream barnyard (earthy, peaty, composting hay/grass to me) to me, mostly those have been maduros. I have tasted and smelled many cigars that scream fresh hay (and I've hauled hay since I was 14, so I know that smell way better than I prefer!!). As to the many and varied tastes described, we should all remember that everyone has different tastes (buds)! What I think taste like anise may not be what others think of as anise (liquorice flavor). I like the taste of cooked animal liver and can describe it, but that might not be what it taste like to others. My wife gets physically sick (almost to the point of throwing up) at the smell of skunk if we pass where one has been hit. On the other hand, that smell doesn't bother me in the least. Bottom line to the newbies to the hobby, don't be discouraged if you don't pick up all the tastes others describe. Due to your own special taste buds, you may never be able to taste all those that are described! As long as you enjoy what you are smoking, go with it. And to damn with what any others (me included) think about your taste preferences!!!!
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