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Old 11-18-2008, 08:27 AM   #1
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What does everyone think about the inevitable assault rifle ban. After this ban is passed do you think that there will be a slippery slope in regards to banning all firearms?

IMHO the government does not have the right to take away my second amendment right. My forefathers died for private citizens to own guns to defend ourselves from any threat both domestic and foreign. This is America isn't it?
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Old 11-18-2008, 08:45 AM   #2
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Not an assault rifle kind guy however I do own many guns and support your right to own what you like. Yes, I think this is just another step closer to taking away or Second Amendment right. Sad, very sad.
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Old 11-18-2008, 08:47 AM   #3
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I think it is inevitable I stocked up on mags, ammo, and lowers a year ago b/c I could see what was going to happen.

I am going to stop there. I don't want to make this political.
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Old 11-18-2008, 08:52 AM   #4
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Nothing politically wrong with discussing a private citizen’s fundamental right.
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Old 11-18-2008, 08:54 AM   #5
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I think it is inevitable I stocked up on mags, ammo, and lowers a year ago b/c I could see what was going to happen.

I am going to stop there. I don't want to make this political.
Same approach I took last time.

Most states do not track individual weapon type purchases so it would be very difficult to say "Ok, give up your assault weapons." I still have several purchased before the last ban and may pick up a couple more just in case.

Like Dan, I will stop here before it gets political.
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Old 11-18-2008, 08:56 AM   #6
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Oh, by the way, they aren't "assault rifles" unless they are fully automatic.

They want to ban all rifles. They just use words like "assault rifles" to get all the sheep scared.
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Old 11-18-2008, 09:00 AM   #7
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Suppliers are getting cleaned out. Stock is getting low everywhere. I stocked up on ammo and reloading components. I could not find a way to word what I wanted to put next that would pass the censors.
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Old 11-18-2008, 09:12 AM   #8
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Suppliers are getting cleaned out. Stock is getting low everywhere...
Yeah, pretty much every site is out of magazines. On ar15.com they tried to organize a group buy on P-mags. Magpul said it would be AT LEAST a 6 month wait

People are also getting gouged right now. Mag prices doubled and tripled a couple weeks ago. The classified ads on ar15.com are insane right now.
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Old 11-18-2008, 09:12 AM   #9
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What does everyone think about the inevitable assault rifle ban. After this ban is passed do you think that there will be a slippery slope in regards to banning all firearms?

IMHO the government does not have the right to take away my second amendment right. My forefathers died for private citizens to own guns to defend ourselves from any threat both domestic and foreign. This is America isn't it?
I just wrote a long post in reply to this thread, but decided I would rather pare it down so as not to start any kind of argument or make this thread political. The only thing I really want to say is that:

At the time the 2nd ammendment was written there was a definite and dire need to own a gun that doesn't exist anymore.
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Old 11-18-2008, 09:27 AM   #10
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At the time the 2nd ammendment was written there was a definite and dire need to own a gun that doesn't exist anymore.

The 2nd amendment guarantees a right... it doesn't address a need. There is a distinct difference.
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Old 11-18-2008, 09:35 AM   #11
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The 2nd amendment guarantees a right... it doesn't address a need. There is a distinct difference.
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Old 11-18-2008, 09:43 AM   #12
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Keep it civil folks. This thread is lighting up the radar screen.
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Old 11-18-2008, 09:45 AM   #13
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Allright, time to lighten this up a little folks.

What is your favorite magazine to use? I like D&H Black Teflon with the Magpul follower.
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Old 11-18-2008, 09:48 AM   #15
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Keep it civil folks. This thread is lighting up the radar screen.
And I didn't do it!!! It is a good day!

Sensitive topic on both sides of the fence. But a good one if handled correctly by all involved.

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Old 11-18-2008, 10:00 AM   #16
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I don't think it's a ban we have to be concerned about as the main issue. Since the last ban sunsetted there has been legislation in the house consistently to create a new ban. Never had enough support to bring to the forefront. Now during the next 4 years, will there be a push and a try for a new ban, probably 100%. Though I have heard the new president elect talk more on a college football playoff then anything on a gun ban since elected. I do not think it will be a Jan 20th 4pm type super ban and get all you can by then.
The problem will be with new taxes on firearms and ammunition. Some are talking a 500% tax on ammunition and another huge tax on new firearms. That would be a killer for everyone who enjoys shooting as a hobby. Hunters/plinkers/black rifle lovers/handgunners. I don't know how many times I would go to the range and every time I pull the trigger I am sending a few dollars at a paper target.

So I am trying to stock up on ammuntion and mags..If the buying frenzy dies down a little bit, then perhaps a new rifle.
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Old 11-18-2008, 02:03 PM   #17
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Keep it civil folks. This thread is lighting up the radar screen.
A thread lighting up the radar screen and i'm not the cause of it? I must be losing my touch

Anywho, bans are silly (though I do support the ban on fully automatic weapons).
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What does everyone think about the inevitable assault rifle ban. After this ban is passed do you think that there will be a slippery slope in regards to banning all firearms?

IMHO the government does not have the right to take away my second amendment right. My forefathers died for private citizens to own guns to defend ourselves from any threat both domestic and foreign. This is America isn't it?
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You are incorrect. My blood pressure rises when i hear ignorant people speak. "The founders added the 2nd amendment so that when, after a long train of abuses, agovernment evinces a methodical design upon our natural rights, we will have the means to protect and recover our rights. That is why the right to keep and bear arms was included in the Bill of Rights."

Please study American history.
The slippery slope we deal with here is much different.

From long experience we know that religion and politics are not subjects that engender brotherhood and good cheer on cigar boards. Lot's of places that support those types of discussions. This isn't one of them.
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The 2nd amendment guarantees a right... it doesn't address a need. There is a distinct difference.
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The 2nd amendment guarantees a right... it doesn't address a need. There is a distinct difference.
I didn't realize that assault rifles were available when the second amendment was written.

Just as an fyi, I see no problem with law abiding citizens owning automatic weapons if they want to play with them at the range. I admit they'd be a little much for hunting though.
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