Padron 1964 Anniversary Series Torpedo

Da Klugs · 11-17-2008, 03:10 PM

Lunchtime came and no cigars had been selected. Decided to go to the old cab and grab a couple from the singles drawer. Pulled the wrong drawer and damn...

I have alot of nice NC cigars with a bunch of age on them.

Decided to smoke these to and from Quaker Steak and Lube lunch today. Right off the bat these have that.. there is really high quality tobacco in there kind of mouth flavors. Lingers on the mouth and tongue in a pleasant way. Conversely, they are harsh on the nose and you really need to just let a sip out or it is unpleasantly harsh.

For those who do not french exhale, these would be the cats pajamas of cigars. Rich and elegant. It's in the nose that issues arise. Properly modulated (maybe 10% nose) a good rich smoking experience. No tremedous changes as it burned down but.. a good solid smoke. Easy for a Cuban cigar smoker to toss due to harshness though as you need to be real careful not to burn out your sinuses.

Price performance is always an issue when comparing High end NC cigars to Cuban alternatives. In this there is no contest, at least for me. Upmann # 2 vs these on the need to grab a smoke ... 9 times out of 10 it would be the Upmann with these being just a change of pace. Plus these are more expensive by a factor of 2 so in all, no contest.

That being said, cigar demonstrated why I used to buy them. Rich and good all the way down and if you like "that flavor" a satisfying smoking experience and a great one compared to most NC cigars.

I guess the moral being .... you can go back but today is nothing like your memories as you have traveled far since they were made.

Scottw · 11-17-2008, 03:13 PM

Great review on a great stick. Nice little collection you got going on in that cab.

pnoon · 11-17-2008, 03:14 PM

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Originally Posted by Da Klugs

.... you can go back but today is nothing like your memories as you have traveled far since they were made.

Ain't that the truth.

11-17-2008, 03:21 PM

I don't see any cremosas.......

drevim · 11-17-2008, 04:25 PM

Dave, you hit on a point that seems often lost. NCs just don't seem to exhale out the nose well at all. When I first started, I couldn't for the life of me get it. Then after switching to cubans, and I was like, yeah this is what they mean. Even when I mixed cubans and NCs, I couldn't get myself to nose exhale NCs. I think you lose so much not exhaling cubans through your nose, but domestics almost demand a mouth only smoke. Don't know what the difference is between the two types, seems NCs are just built to be such powerbombs/flavorbombs, that the subtle tastes, that a nose exhale demands are lost.

Nice review, Padrons were always my favorite NCs, and of the few I still have, they are the only ones left.

11-17-2008, 04:33 PM

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Originally Posted by drevim

Dave, you hit on a point that seems often lost. NCs just don't seem to exhale out the nose well at all. When I first started, I couldn't for the life of me get it. Then after switching to cubans, and I was like, yeah this is what they mean. Even when I mixed cubans and NCs, I couldn't get myself to nose exhale NCs. I think you lose so much not exhaling cubans through your nose, but domestics almost demand a mouth only smoke. Don't know what the difference is between the two types, seems NCs are just built to be such powerbombs/flavorbombs, that the subtle tastes, that a nose exhale demands are lost.

Nice review, Padrons were always my favorite NCs, and of the few I still have, they are the only ones left.

This maybe a stupid question, but how is nose exhaling that important? Isn't it about taste and body?

Da Klugs · 11-17-2008, 06:09 PM

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Originally Posted by MLC

This maybe a stupid question, but how is nose exhaling that important? Isn't it about taste and body?

True but how you access that taste and body is the point our friend refers to.

I posted some thoughts on this here....

http://www.cigarasylum.com/vb/showthread.php?t=1906

The real issue has to do with "what cigars" you smoke. Within the Cuban category the issue of "nose" becomes a significant issue.

11-17-2008, 06:13 PM

Dave, would you say the aging had a dramatic impact on the flavor profile, or not so much?

VirtualSmitty · 11-21-2008, 10:51 PM

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Originally Posted by MLC

This maybe a stupid question, but how is nose exhaling that important? Isn't it about taste and body?

The next time you sit down to have a good meal, hold your nose while your eating and see what a difference it makes.

11-22-2008, 02:41 AM

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Originally Posted by VirtualSmitty

The next time you sit down to have a good meal, hold your nose while your eating and see what a difference it makes.

I agree you can get more taste exhaling through the nose - but what I was responding to was a quote that said it's all about nose exhaling. I've read Daklugs sticky about different ways of smoking and I can understand this thread better now.

11-17-2008, 04:50 PM

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Originally Posted by drevim

.. I think you lose so much not exhaling cubans through your nose, but domestics almost demand a mouth only smoke...

Exactly for me as well. Nasal exhale on young NCs can be too painful. I usualy still do but just the very last bit of the smoke. I just never get those nuances if I dont do it.

Thanks for the review DK. A fine smoke indeed.

~Vitis

68TriShield · 11-17-2008, 05:00 PM

The Anniversary has inspired many a eloquent review.+1

Sauer Grapes · 11-17-2008, 07:56 PM

Man, your NC collection sucks relative to the rest of your collection. Of course, it's all relative as your NC collection is the stuff most cigar smokers dream of.

Thanks for the "review." Or at least thanks for mentioning that you smoked it. I found that in itself amusing as I can't remember when you've lowered your standards enough to smoke a NC cigar besides your coveted cremosas.

Da Klugs · 11-17-2008, 08:07 PM

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Originally Posted by Sauer Grapes

Man, your NC collection sucks relative to the rest of your collection. Of course, it's all relative as your NC collection is the stuff most cigar smokers dream of.

Thanks for the "review." Or at least thanks for mentioning that you smoked it. I found that in itself amusing as I can't remember when you've lowered your standards enough to smoke a NC cigar besides your coveted cremosas.

It's not a matter of standards just of smoking what you have come to like. Interesting in that the average daily smoke for me now is cheaper than in the NC phase. You missed my first 30 years of NC smoking. Pretty much smoked em all. Conversion has pretty much been a one island cigar smoker for me for the past 3 years. Once you become a nose smoker its difficult to appreciate what NC cigars have to offer.

Sauer Grapes · 11-17-2008, 08:20 PM

I was more making a cremosa joke. I'm not always the best comedian... er... maybe never actually.

I wasn't knocking your taste in cigars whatsoever.

Anyway, I really did get a smile out of you posting up about a NC cigar. It's just so... well, rare. I considered it a treat.

Da Klugs · 11-17-2008, 08:33 PM

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Originally Posted by Sauer Grapes

I was more making a cremosa joke. I'm not always the best comedian... er... maybe never actually.

I wasn't knocking your taste in cigars whatsoever.

Anyway, I really did get a smile out of you posting up about a NC cigar. It's just so... well, rare. I considered it a treat.

Glad someone did, Sam *****ed about the cigars all during lunch.... its too strong, has a funny aftertaste.... friggin Cuban snobs.

drevim · 11-18-2008, 03:40 AM

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Originally Posted by Da Klugs

Glad someone did, Sam *****ed about the cigars all during lunch.... its too strong, has a funny aftertaste.... friggin Cuban snobs.

Ironic, considering where our buddy, Sam was at Shack 2. Handing out Fuentes, and saying he didn't see the appeal of cubans. What a difference that weekend made.

(and that bad influence in the office next door to his)

HK3- · 11-21-2008, 03:23 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Da Klugs

It's not a matter of standards just of smoking what you have come to like. Interesting in that the average daily smoke for me now is cheaper than in the NC phase. You missed my first 30 years of NC smoking. Pretty much smoked em all. Conversion has pretty much been a one island cigar smoker for me for the past 3 years. Once you become a nose smoker its difficult to appreciate what NC cigars have to offer.

The nose exhale is what ruined the NC's for me.

Great review and interesting reading everyones posts.

ucla695 · 11-17-2008, 08:35 PM

Nice singles drawer!!

I really like Padron the Anny lines, but I agree with you. Price definitely comes into play and it's hard to pay more for a stick that's just as good/not as good as less expensive sticks. It's all about bang for the buck.

Rabidsquirrel · 11-23-2008, 07:21 PM

I've been meaning to get one of these, although I don't know if I could even smoke because they're almost beautiful to me.

11-17-2008, 03:10 PM	#1
Da Klugs Juan of 11 Join Date: Oct 2008 First Name: Dave Location: Right here Posts: 4,222 Trading: (8)	Padron 1964 Anniversary Series Torpedo Lunchtime came and no cigars had been selected. Decided to go to the old cab and grab a couple from the singles drawer. Pulled the wrong drawer and damn... I have alot of nice NC cigars with a bunch of age on them. Decided to smoke these to and from Quaker Steak and Lube lunch today. Right off the bat these have that.. there is really high quality tobacco in there kind of mouth flavors. Lingers on the mouth and tongue in a pleasant way. Conversely, they are harsh on the nose and you really need to just let a sip out or it is unpleasantly harsh. For those who do not french exhale, these would be the cats pajamas of cigars. Rich and elegant. It's in the nose that issues arise. Properly modulated (maybe 10% nose) a good rich smoking experience. No tremedous changes as it burned down but.. a good solid smoke. Easy for a Cuban cigar smoker to toss due to harshness though as you need to be real careful not to burn out your sinuses. Price performance is always an issue when comparing High end NC cigars to Cuban alternatives. In this there is no contest, at least for me. Upmann # 2 vs these on the need to grab a smoke ... 9 times out of 10 it would be the Upmann with these being just a change of pace. Plus these are more expensive by a factor of 2 so in all, no contest. That being said, cigar demonstrated why I used to buy them. Rich and good all the way down and if you like "that flavor" a satisfying smoking experience and a great one compared to most NC cigars. I guess the moral being .... you can go back but today is nothing like your memories as you have traveled far since they were made. __________________ Communities Not Commodities. Punctuation challenged, but trying. Proud winner of phase 1 of the Weight loss contest

11-17-2008, 03:13 PM	#2
Scottw Going Commando Join Date: Oct 2008 First Name: Scott Location: Sussex, NJ Posts: 2,815 Trading: (6)	Re: Padron 1964 Anniversary Series Torpedo Great review on a great stick. Nice little collection you got going on in that cab. __________________ "Ray when someone asks you if your a GOD you say yes."

11-17-2008, 03:21 PM	#4
Resipsa Guest Posts: n/a	Re: Padron 1964 Anniversary Series Torpedo I don't see any cremosas.......

11-17-2008, 04:25 PM	#5
drevim On the inside looking out Join Date: Oct 2008 First Name: Ian Location: In the Asylum Posts: 290 Trading: (6)	Re: Padron 1964 Anniversary Series Torpedo Dave, you hit on a point that seems often lost. NCs just don't seem to exhale out the nose well at all. When I first started, I couldn't for the life of me get it. Then after switching to cubans, and I was like, yeah this is what they mean. Even when I mixed cubans and NCs, I couldn't get myself to nose exhale NCs. I think you lose so much not exhaling cubans through your nose, but domestics almost demand a mouth only smoke. Don't know what the difference is between the two types, seems NCs are just built to be such powerbombs/flavorbombs, that the subtle tastes, that a nose exhale demands are lost. Nice review, Padrons were always my favorite NCs, and of the few I still have, they are the only ones left. __________________ "We're the fragile elite, they dragged off the street. I guess they just couldn't take us no more...We're all crazy"

11-17-2008, 06:13 PM	#8
Resipsa Guest Posts: n/a	Re: Padron 1964 Anniversary Series Torpedo Dave, would you say the aging had a dramatic impact on the flavor profile, or not so much?

11-17-2008, 05:00 PM	#12
68TriShield Got Torque? Join Date: Oct 2008 First Name: Dave Location: Maryland Posts: 7,194 Trading: (40)	Re: Padron 1964 Anniversary Series Torpedo The Anniversary has inspired many a eloquent review.+1

11-17-2008, 07:56 PM	#13
Sauer Grapes Snatchin' yo people up Join Date: Oct 2008 Posts: 2,235 Trading: (44)	Re: Padron 1964 Anniversary Series Torpedo Man, your NC collection sucks relative to the rest of your collection. Of course, it's all relative as your NC collection is the stuff most cigar smokers dream of. Thanks for the "review." Or at least thanks for mentioning that you smoked it. I found that in itself amusing as I can't remember when you've lowered your standards enough to smoke a NC cigar besides your coveted cremosas.

11-17-2008, 08:20 PM	#15
Sauer Grapes Snatchin' yo people up Join Date: Oct 2008 Posts: 2,235 Trading: (44)	Re: Padron 1964 Anniversary Series Torpedo I was more making a cremosa joke. I'm not always the best comedian... er... maybe never actually. I wasn't knocking your taste in cigars whatsoever. Anyway, I really did get a smile out of you posting up about a NC cigar. It's just so... well, rare. I considered it a treat.

11-17-2008, 08:35 PM	#19
ucla695 Neither here, nor there Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: The Pool Posts: 3,696 Trading: (5)	Re: Padron 1964 Anniversary Series Torpedo Nice singles drawer!! I really like Padron the Anny lines, but I agree with you. Price definitely comes into play and it's hard to pay more for a stick that's just as good/not as good as less expensive sticks. It's all about bang for the buck.

11-23-2008, 07:21 PM	#20
Rabidsquirrel Moderately Confused Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: Pennsylvania, US Posts: 576 Trading: (5)	Re: Padron 1964 Anniversary Series Torpedo I've been meaning to get one of these, although I don't know if I could even smoke because they're almost beautiful to me.