Crime and Punishment

02-10-2011, 02:20 PM

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Last night, my son in law literally took down a 3 time loser... big time drug dealer.
They wrestled to the ground in a scuffle to get the cuffs on him. My son in law removed this from his possession.
This guy is going to do 40-45 years.
Now it's mine.

Ashcan Bill · 02-10-2011, 02:31 PM

Cool.

Dave128 · 02-10-2011, 02:44 PM

Seems a bit fishy to me......

Why would a lighter be confiscated from someone? Was there motive? I should think this would fall under theft of property, cop or not. Also, if not theft and there was some sort of motive, would this be classified as evidence tampering?

hscmit · 02-10-2011, 02:49 PM

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Originally Posted by Dave128

Seems a bit fishy to me......

Why would a lighter be confiscated from someone? Was there motive? I should think this would fall under theft of property, cop or not. Also, if not theft and there was some sort of motive, would this be classified as evidence tampering?

x2
stuff like this is what gives cops a bad name

02-10-2011, 04:08 PM

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Originally Posted by hscmit

x2
stuff like this is what gives cops a bad name

02-10-2011, 02:51 PM

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Originally Posted by Dave128

Seems a bit fishy to me......

Why would a lighter be confiscated from someone? Was there motive? I should think this would fall under theft of property, cop or not. Also, if not theft and there was some sort of motive, would this be classified as evidence tampering?

And you would be wrong...Police policy is to throw away anything combustible at the scene. Or throw it in their trunks. It had nothing to do with the event or crime.
"Yes your honor....we did find 4 kilos of cocaine and 1.5 kilos of marijuana on the defendant...and oh yeah...a lighter with a some kind of leaf on it."

Zeuceone · 02-10-2011, 02:51 PM

is this made up? sure doesnt look good.

safariguy · 02-10-2011, 02:52 PM

No. Not cool. Not cool at all. As a police officer I find this offensive. I hope your son in law does not get put in prison also. That would be a shame.

Dave128 · 02-10-2011, 02:53 PM

Enjoy using that stolen property.

02-10-2011, 02:55 PM

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Enjoy using that stolen property.

Thank you, I will.

timj219 · 02-10-2011, 02:58 PM

Let's all gloat for awhile about somebody spending the rest of their life in prison for breaking the idiotic drug laws. If you'd received a few dozen of those lighters it might have paid for your share of his upkeep in prison.

DPD6030 · 02-10-2011, 02:57 PM

I can hope that this doesn't get back to his boss. This could be the end of your son's career over a post on the internet. I don't know of any police policy to throw away items belonging to another person, whether it was confiscated or not.

02-10-2011, 03:07 PM

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Originally Posted by DPD6030

I can hope that this doesn't get back to his boss. This could be the end of your son's career over a post on the internet. I don't know of any police policy to throw away items belonging to another person, whether it was confiscated or not.

You not being aware of a specific police policy does not change anything...
This was a big bust. The scene was full of his bosses. He did nothing illegal.

loki · 02-10-2011, 03:08 PM

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Originally Posted by Katmancross

You not being aware of a specific police policy does not change anything...
This was a big bust. The scene was full of his bosses. He did nothing illegal.

loki · 02-10-2011, 02:56 PM

so it was theft or destruction of personal property under color of authority?

02-10-2011, 03:01 PM

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Originally Posted by loki

so it was theft or destruction of personal property under color of authority?

I will say this one more time...the policy of the police department is to discard any combustible item found on the person arrested, unless germaine to the arrest or the law that was broken.
It is the policy of the police department....got it?

loki · 02-10-2011, 03:04 PM

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Originally Posted by Katmancross

I will say this one more time...the policy of the police department is to discard any combustible item found on the person arrested, unless germaine to the arrest or the law that was broken.
It is the policy of the police department....got it?

so it's still theft or destruction of personal property under color of authority.....got it? and the word you're looking for is germane....I hope I never run into you, or your son in law

02-10-2011, 03:10 PM

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Originally Posted by loki

so it's still theft or destruction of personal property under color of authority.....got it? and the word you're looking for is germane....I hope I never run into you, or your son in law

LOL!

DPD6030 · 02-10-2011, 03:14 PM

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Originally Posted by Katmancross

I will say this one more time...the policy of the police department is to discard any combustible item found on the person arrested, unless germaine to the arrest or the law that was broken.
It is the policy of the police department....got it?

Discarding of it is one thing, giving the property to another that was supposed to be discarded or destroyed is another.

Anyone have any itch cream? My butt is beginning to itch

Bill86 · 02-10-2011, 03:19 PM

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Originally Posted by DPD6030

Discarding of it is one thing, giving the property to another that was supposed to be discarded or destroyed is another.

Anyone have any itch cream? My butt is beginning to itch

02-10-2011, 02:20 PM	#1
Katmancross Guest Posts: n/a	Crime and Punishment Last night, my son in law literally took down a 3 time loser... big time drug dealer. They wrestled to the ground in a scuffle to get the cuffs on him. My son in law removed this from his possession. This guy is going to do 40-45 years. Now it's mine.

02-10-2011, 02:31 PM	#2
Ashcan Bill Ol' Dude Join Date: Oct 2008 First Name: Bill Location: Henderson, NV Posts: 1,901 Trading: (6)	Re: Crime and Punishment Cool.

02-10-2011, 02:44 PM	#3
Dave128 Sexy Dave Join Date: Feb 2009 First Name: Dave Location: Voorheesville, NY Posts: 3,922 Trading: (4)	Re: Crime and Punishment Seems a bit fishy to me...... Why would a lighter be confiscated from someone? Was there motive? I should think this would fall under theft of property, cop or not. Also, if not theft and there was some sort of motive, would this be classified as evidence tampering? __________________ "Beer is proof that God loves us and wants us to be happy." - Benjamin Franklin I "heart" Boobies and Beer!

02-10-2011, 02:51 PM	#7
Zeuceone You're next Join Date: Dec 2010 First Name: G Location: SoCal Posts: 1,737 Trading: (16)	Re: Crime and Punishment is this made up? sure doesnt look good.

02-10-2011, 02:52 PM	#8
safariguy There's one. Set for stun Join Date: Aug 2009 First Name: Ryan Location: Michigan Posts: 336 Trading: (7)	Re: Crime and Punishment No. Not cool. Not cool at all. As a police officer I find this offensive. I hope your son in law does not get put in prison also. That would be a shame.

02-10-2011, 02:53 PM	#9
Dave128 Sexy Dave Join Date: Feb 2009 First Name: Dave Location: Voorheesville, NY Posts: 3,922 Trading: (4)	Re: Crime and Punishment Enjoy using that stolen property. __________________ "Beer is proof that God loves us and wants us to be happy." - Benjamin Franklin I "heart" Boobies and Beer!

02-10-2011, 02:58 PM	#11
timj219 Feeling at Home Join Date: Jun 2010 First Name: Tim Location: Binghamton, NY Posts: 699 Trading: (15)	Re: Crime and Punishment Let's all gloat for awhile about somebody spending the rest of their life in prison for breaking the idiotic drug laws. If you'd received a few dozen of those lighters it might have paid for your share of his upkeep in prison. __________________ "All this of Pot and Potter - Tell me then, Who is the Potter, pray, and who the Pot?" Omar Khayyam

02-10-2011, 02:57 PM	#12
DPD6030 Shepard of the sheeple Join Date: Oct 2008 First Name: Andrew Location: The Mitten Posts: 7,166 Trading: (151)	Re: Crime and Punishment I can hope that this doesn't get back to his boss. This could be the end of your son's career over a post on the internet. I don't know of any police policy to throw away items belonging to another person, whether it was confiscated or not.

02-10-2011, 02:56 PM	#15
loki H.A.T.E Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: Pittsburgh pa Posts: 1,484 Trading: (7)	Re: Crime and Punishment so it was theft or destruction of personal property under color of authority?