Question about humidor and humidity

Bageland2000 · 02-03-2011, 12:21 PM

Morning guys,
I have a little bit of time here due to the third day of no going into work due to the storm. I wanted to take the time to explain a situation and ask for some advice. My girlfriend was the one who got me into cigars when she bought me a small 75 count humidor. Now I have the standard little sponge puck with PG and distilled water in addition to a Xikar humidity beads jar. Now I am planning on getting a digital hygrometer later today, but i wanted to ask a few questions. First, I just received and insane amount of cigars from Ranger_B. When I opened up the package, a few of the sticks had a very strong, very pleasant aroma. Now three days later in the humi, and they've lost a great deal of their aroma. Also, I bought a 10 pack of CAO brazilias and took 3 out of the cellophane. The sticks that are out of the cello do not have a strong smell, but I took one of the others out of its cello and it has a MUCH stronger smell. Is this an indication that the humidity is off? Also, the humi was an inexpensive one that my girlfriend got from who knows where. Is there a possibility that it doesn't have Spanish cedar in it? Anyway I could tell? Lastly, I just got a MASSIVE tax return and want to buy a new humidir. I was thinking about going the vino route, but will be training with the Army for the next 4 months and would have no time to set it up. Is there an interim humi that I could get to protect my sticks before I settle down and have a stable place and can set up a vino? Or should I just get that hygro and pay close attention to the humidity in my current humi? Thanks for the advice fellas!

for the long post! Want to make sure that I protect my cigars!

GolfNut · 02-03-2011, 12:28 PM

Andrew, just grab a cooler (ice chest) for the time being until you are back and ready to set up a full time humidor. Heck, a lot of people use just a cooler and do perfectly fine.

Inexpensive, easy and just about any size you need.

longknocker · 02-03-2011, 12:30 PM

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Originally Posted by GolfNut

Andrew, just grab a cooler (ice chest) for the time being until you are back and ready to set up a full time humidor. Heck, a lot of people use just a cooler and do perfectly fine.

Inexpensive, easy and just about any size you need.

Cooler & 65RH Beads Work Great For Me!

pnoon · 02-03-2011, 12:47 PM

If you are looking to splurge on a humidor, wait until you return.

What is your budget for the humi?
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Bageland2000 · 02-03-2011, 12:54 PM

IDK, 400 MAX. Again, really leaning toward the Vino option. Though I would like to spend enough to make it a great vino

Any ideas regarding the symptoms I'm describing?

pnoon · 02-03-2011, 12:57 PM

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Originally Posted by Bageland2000

IDK, 400 MAX. Again, really leaning toward the Vino option. Though I would like to spend enough to make it a great vino

Any ideas regarding the symptoms I'm describing?

The smell, in and of itself, is not an indication of RH.
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longknocker · 02-03-2011, 12:58 PM

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Originally Posted by Bageland2000

IDK, 400 MAX. Again, really leaning toward the Vino option. Though I would like to spend enough to make it a great vino

Any ideas regarding the symptoms I'm describing?

I Would Go With A Cooler, At Least Temporarily. Then You Have Plenty Of Storage & Time To Decide Which Vino You Want, Custom Drawers, Etc.

Ranger_B · 02-03-2011, 01:00 PM

Andrew the comments above are right on. The smells of the cigars where concentrated because they where sealed up in a bag while shipping. The smell really isnt an indication of your humidity that I am aware of. As far as the cedar on the humi check to see if there is a change in the wood along the edge when you open the humi up. On the cheaper humis there is normally a thin veneer on the outside then some cheap wood and then a veneer of cedar on the inside. If the edge is unfinished when the box is open you should see this. On better humidors you normally see about a1/4 in piece of cedar that forms the seal on the humi. Hard to explain but if you look at waxingmoons threads you will see the seal made by the cedar on his boxes. Getting a hygrometer is good but even the digital ones are not 100%. I would not jump right into a humi first. I would get a cooler up and running so you have time to find what you would like to have. You will see that a desktop is just an ornament for many here and the majority of storage is in either a cooler or a vino (in some of the ballers cases they have awesome cabinets). The desktop is for either smokes you are smoking or singles. Just my

Bageland2000 · 02-08-2011, 09:39 PM

Ok, I just got two Acu-rite hygrometers/thermometers and did the 24hr salt test on them. Both have been fluctuating between 74-75% Rh while inside the Tupperware so it seems that they are right on! Put one inside the humi so we'll see tomorrow what it reads...

Bageland2000 · 02-09-2011, 02:48 PM

This morning the hygro read 50%!!! OMG that's low. I put more PG in the sponge to see if that affects the humidity. We'll see when I get home...

76GTFan · 02-09-2011, 03:23 PM

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Originally Posted by Bageland2000

This morning the hygro read 50%!!! OMG that's low. I put more PG in the sponge to see if that affects the humidity. We'll see when I get home...

Save yourself alot of grief and get some beads. I gave up the PG solution years ago.

longknocker · 02-09-2011, 03:38 PM

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Originally Posted by 76GTFan

Save yourself alot of grief and get some beads. I gave up the PG solution years ago.

I Even Ruined Many Cigars With That Stuff! Kept On Adding More & More PG Solution To Get The RH Up & My Cigars Tasted Awful!

Bageland2000 · 02-09-2011, 04:46 PM

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Originally Posted by 76GTFan

Save yourself alot of grief and get some beads. I gave up the PG solution years ago.

I have beads in there as well and they're as bloated as hell! It's a small container of Xikar RH beads...

Bageland2000 · 02-09-2011, 07:39 PM

Ugh 52%...I'm going to go get more beads tomorrow.

76GTFan · 02-09-2011, 07:59 PM

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Originally Posted by Bageland2000

Ugh 52%...I'm going to go get more beads tomorrow.

It will get right. Worth every penny.

Bill86 · 02-09-2011, 08:39 PM

Get some Heartfelt or Shilala's beads and never worry about humidity again. It's so much piece of mind knowing your stash is safe at all times.

Ranger_B · 02-09-2011, 08:40 PM

Are you talking about the xicar crystal gel. When we are talking beads we mean Shilas or Heartfelt. There are others however the general feel here is that these are the best two products out there. Your mileage may vary. Best of luck man.

Bageland2000 · 02-10-2011, 09:06 PM

So will this be enough to maintain my small humidor for now? Cool that it's free shipping to military..

http://www.heartfeltindustries.com/p...?prod=HT_05_65

bobarian · 02-10-2011, 09:23 PM

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Originally Posted by Bageland2000

So will this be enough to maintain my small humidor for now? Cool that it's free shipping to military..

http://www.heartfeltindustries.com/p...?prod=HT_05_65

For sure. I have used same size in a 100ct without issues for 3 years.

Ranger_B · 02-10-2011, 09:57 PM

For sure. If this doesnt get your humidity up then just find a cooler and use the small humi to dry box.

02-03-2011, 12:21 PM	#1
Bageland2000 On another adventure Join Date: Jan 2011 First Name: Andrew Location: Chicago, IL Posts: 352 Trading: (2)	Question about humidor and humidity Morning guys, I have a little bit of time here due to the third day of no going into work due to the storm. I wanted to take the time to explain a situation and ask for some advice. My girlfriend was the one who got me into cigars when she bought me a small 75 count humidor. Now I have the standard little sponge puck with PG and distilled water in addition to a Xikar humidity beads jar. Now I am planning on getting a digital hygrometer later today, but i wanted to ask a few questions. First, I just received and insane amount of cigars from Ranger_B. When I opened up the package, a few of the sticks had a very strong, very pleasant aroma. Now three days later in the humi, and they've lost a great deal of their aroma. Also, I bought a 10 pack of CAO brazilias and took 3 out of the cellophane. The sticks that are out of the cello do not have a strong smell, but I took one of the others out of its cello and it has a MUCH stronger smell. Is this an indication that the humidity is off? Also, the humi was an inexpensive one that my girlfriend got from who knows where. Is there a possibility that it doesn't have Spanish cedar in it? Anyway I could tell? Lastly, I just got a MASSIVE tax return and want to buy a new humidir. I was thinking about going the vino route, but will be training with the Army for the next 4 months and would have no time to set it up. Is there an interim humi that I could get to protect my sticks before I settle down and have a stable place and can set up a vino? Or should I just get that hygro and pay close attention to the humidity in my current humi? Thanks for the advice fellas! for the long post! Want to make sure that I protect my cigars! __________________ Favorites: Arturo Fuente Sun Grown Rosado, Oliva Serie V, CAO La Traviata/Brazilia, Perdomo 10th An. Champagne

02-03-2011, 12:28 PM	#2
GolfNut Back in the woodshop! Join Date: Oct 2008 First Name: Forrest Location: Living room Posts: 1,361 Trading: (38)	Re: Question about humidor and humidity Andrew, just grab a cooler (ice chest) for the time being until you are back and ready to set up a full time humidor. Heck, a lot of people use just a cooler and do perfectly fine. Inexpensive, easy and just about any size you need. __________________ www.wineadors.com

02-03-2011, 12:47 PM	#4
pnoon YNWA Join Date: Oct 2008 First Name: Peter Location: San Diego Posts: 29,919 Trading: (20)	Re: Question about humidor and humidity If you are looking to splurge on a humidor, wait until you return. What is your budget for the humi? Posted via Mobile Device

02-03-2011, 12:54 PM	#5
Bageland2000 On another adventure Join Date: Jan 2011 First Name: Andrew Location: Chicago, IL Posts: 352 Trading: (2)	Re: Question about humidor and humidity IDK, 400 MAX. Again, really leaning toward the Vino option. Though I would like to spend enough to make it a great vino Any ideas regarding the symptoms I'm describing? __________________ Favorites: Arturo Fuente Sun Grown Rosado, Oliva Serie V, CAO La Traviata/Brazilia, Perdomo 10th An. Champagne

02-03-2011, 01:00 PM	#8
Ranger_B Have My Own Room Join Date: Apr 2009 First Name: Frank Location: North Carolina Posts: 1,321 Trading: (31)	Re: Question about humidor and humidity Andrew the comments above are right on. The smells of the cigars where concentrated because they where sealed up in a bag while shipping. The smell really isnt an indication of your humidity that I am aware of. As far as the cedar on the humi check to see if there is a change in the wood along the edge when you open the humi up. On the cheaper humis there is normally a thin veneer on the outside then some cheap wood and then a veneer of cedar on the inside. If the edge is unfinished when the box is open you should see this. On better humidors you normally see about a1/4 in piece of cedar that forms the seal on the humi. Hard to explain but if you look at waxingmoons threads you will see the seal made by the cedar on his boxes. Getting a hygrometer is good but even the digital ones are not 100%. I would not jump right into a humi first. I would get a cooler up and running so you have time to find what you would like to have. You will see that a desktop is just an ornament for many here and the majority of storage is in either a cooler or a vino (in some of the ballers cases they have awesome cabinets). The desktop is for either smokes you are smoking or singles. Just my

02-08-2011, 09:39 PM	#9
Bageland2000 On another adventure Join Date: Jan 2011 First Name: Andrew Location: Chicago, IL Posts: 352 Trading: (2)	Re: Question about humidor and humidity Ok, I just got two Acu-rite hygrometers/thermometers and did the 24hr salt test on them. Both have been fluctuating between 74-75% Rh while inside the Tupperware so it seems that they are right on! Put one inside the humi so we'll see tomorrow what it reads... __________________ Favorites: Arturo Fuente Sun Grown Rosado, Oliva Serie V, CAO La Traviata/Brazilia, Perdomo 10th An. Champagne

02-09-2011, 02:48 PM	#10
Bageland2000 On another adventure Join Date: Jan 2011 First Name: Andrew Location: Chicago, IL Posts: 352 Trading: (2)	Re: Question about humidor and humidity This morning the hygro read 50%!!! OMG that's low. I put more PG in the sponge to see if that affects the humidity. We'll see when I get home... __________________ Favorites: Arturo Fuente Sun Grown Rosado, Oliva Serie V, CAO La Traviata/Brazilia, Perdomo 10th An. Champagne

02-09-2011, 07:39 PM	#14
Bageland2000 On another adventure Join Date: Jan 2011 First Name: Andrew Location: Chicago, IL Posts: 352 Trading: (2)	Re: Question about humidor and humidity Ugh 52%...I'm going to go get more beads tomorrow. __________________ Favorites: Arturo Fuente Sun Grown Rosado, Oliva Serie V, CAO La Traviata/Brazilia, Perdomo 10th An. Champagne

02-09-2011, 08:39 PM	#16
Bill86 Snob Join Date: Jul 2010 First Name: Bill Posts: 6,704 Trading: (67)	Re: Question about humidor and humidity Get some Heartfelt or Shilala's beads and never worry about humidity again. It's so much piece of mind knowing your stash is safe at all times.

02-09-2011, 08:40 PM	#17
Ranger_B Have My Own Room Join Date: Apr 2009 First Name: Frank Location: North Carolina Posts: 1,321 Trading: (31)	Re: Question about humidor and humidity Are you talking about the xicar crystal gel. When we are talking beads we mean Shilas or Heartfelt. There are others however the general feel here is that these are the best two products out there. Your mileage may vary. Best of luck man.

02-10-2011, 09:06 PM	#18
Bageland2000 On another adventure Join Date: Jan 2011 First Name: Andrew Location: Chicago, IL Posts: 352 Trading: (2)	Re: Question about humidor and humidity So will this be enough to maintain my small humidor for now? Cool that it's free shipping to military.. http://www.heartfeltindustries.com/p...?prod=HT_05_65 __________________ Favorites: Arturo Fuente Sun Grown Rosado, Oliva Serie V, CAO La Traviata/Brazilia, Perdomo 10th An. Champagne

02-10-2011, 09:57 PM	#20
Ranger_B Have My Own Room Join Date: Apr 2009 First Name: Frank Location: North Carolina Posts: 1,321 Trading: (31)	Re: Question about humidor and humidity For sure. If this doesnt get your humidity up then just find a cooler and use the small humi to dry box.