Difference in Cabaiguan

Pat1075 · 12-13-2010, 10:50 PM

So apparently Cabaiguan is no longer being made in Miami. Now it is being made in the Nicaragua factory. I think that the quality has dropped a little since the change over has anyone else noticed this or feel the same way?

Bill86 · 12-13-2010, 10:53 PM

I don't know when/where the one I smoked was made but it tasted like soap....I chucked it at half an inch in if that.

T.G · 12-15-2010, 12:57 AM

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Originally Posted by Bill86

I don't know when/where the one I smoked was made but it tasted like soap....I chucked it at half an inch in if that.

What type of soap?

Bill86 · 12-15-2010, 01:07 AM

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What type of soap?

Nothing interesting, my guess dial. Dial sounds very plain, soapy and boring. It wasn't anything exciting, didn't have any flavors. Just plain soap. I kept smoking it for 10-15 draws just to see if it was something scented that might have a taste.

T.G · 12-15-2010, 01:16 AM

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Originally Posted by Bill86

Nothing interesting, my guess dial. Dial sounds very plain, soapy and boring. It wasn't anything exciting, didn't have any flavors. Just plain soap. I kept smoking it for 10-15 draws just to see if it was something scented that might have a taste.

Dial eh? I was expecting Palmolive based on the silky smooth soft to the touch wrappers...

Bill86 · 12-15-2010, 01:20 AM

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Dial eh? I was expecting Palmolive based on the silky smooth soft to the touch wrappers...

That might have been at least a bit enjoyable, no such luck. The dial overpowered any normal flavors the cigar might have had. Straight soap, not even peppery soap. I was trying to find something redeeming about it......nothing. They really need to have the rollers wash their hands with some top notch soap, or at least something with a decent flavor. I think I'm going to call the soap companies and ask for something bacon flavored, I bet they'll think I'm an idiot.

pinotguy · 12-13-2010, 11:16 PM

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Originally Posted by Pat1075

So apparently Cabaiguan is no longer being made in Miami. Now it is being made in the Nicaragua factory. I think that the quality has dropped a little since the change over has anyone else noticed this or feel the same way?

Interesting news - I had not heard that. Any links to a press release or something similar? At this point, I can't say I've had one of the Nicaraguan-made Cabaiguan. I really like this brand and my hopes are that they remain a high-quality smoke.

Pat1075 · 12-14-2010, 01:19 AM

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Interesting news - I had not heard that. Any links to a press release or something similar? At this point, I can't say I've had one of the Nicaraguan-made Cabaiguan. I really like this brand and my hopes are that they remain a high-quality smoke.

nope no press release, just no el rey de los habanos sticker any more and there is a my father factory sticker now
they also seem to be more toasty and less sweet

wrench turner 85 · 12-14-2010, 01:01 AM

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Originally Posted by Pat1075

So apparently Cabaiguan is no longer being made in Miami. Now it is being made in the Nicaragua factory. I think that the quality has dropped a little since the change over has anyone else noticed this or feel the same way?

I dont think the quality has gone down, its that something is missing from the new cabaiguan

. but its still a solid smoke IMHO

huero71 · 12-14-2010, 01:15 AM

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Originally Posted by wrench turner 85

I dont think the quality has gone down, its that something is missing from the new cabaiguan

. but its still a solid smoke IMHO

X2

huero71 · 12-14-2010, 01:35 AM

Differences in crops year to year?

Pat1075 · 12-14-2010, 01:39 AM

seems more like a blend change but it could be just that a difference in crops. Tat has so much attention to its rares and limiteds now I just think that its cores are taking a back burner now.

huero71 · 12-14-2010, 01:45 AM

That could be the case. I'm a Tat/DPG whore, and I've only had the rare off stick, but I'm sure my judgement is biased.

The original Cabaiguans have always been a little mild for me, but the Guapos are another story. Guess I'll have to head out and find some to try for myself.

Pat1075 · 12-14-2010, 01:48 AM

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Originally Posted by huero71

That could be the case. I'm a Tat/DPG whore, and I've only had the rare off stick, but I'm sure my judgement is biased.

The original Cabaiguans have always been a little mild for me, but the Guapos are another story. Guess I'll have to head out and find some to try for myself.

And I have been too and I guess that has lead me down the road of disapointment instead. I just love the original cabaiguans and tat browns. It could even be that the aging rooms in the two factories are different who knows there are just that many factors.

OHRD · 12-14-2010, 08:34 AM

First I've heard of this, all I have are over a year old. When did the transition happen? If they've moved production out of USA, it'd sure be nice to see a slight price drop.

NCRadioMan · 12-14-2010, 11:53 AM

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First I've heard of this, all I have are over a year old. When did the transition happen? If they've moved production out of USA, it'd sure be nice to see a slight price drop.

Logical but nothing is logical nowadays.

The last box code I saw from Miami was August so it was somewhere between then and November. Got boxes from My Father starting then, without being told of the production change. Also the band is slightly different. "Miami" is replaced by "P.H.J." and they're packed in cello instead of being naked.

quantim0 · 12-14-2010, 03:00 PM

I have a mid September box with the My Father sticker on it. Have not smoked one from the box yet though

akumushi · 12-14-2010, 11:07 PM

Not sure how old it was, but I just smoked a coronas extra from Itzfrank that was delish. I would hate to see these change much as they are one of my favorite production tats. I think the guapos are pretty tasteless and boring, but the original line is awesome.

Bill86 · 12-15-2010, 01:38 AM

Well then it's settled I'll give them a call in the morning and request it. I think I'm on to something here. I better write this down before I get drunk and forget. Thankfully the forum will document my antics.

rizzle · 12-15-2010, 09:43 AM

I haven't had any from Nicaragua yet, but I'm gonna be pissed if something is up with my Cabaiguans. I hope to hell the core Tat lines aren't going down in their quality or even seeing blend changes, that would just be a sin. And quite frankly, I can do without the cello in my boxes. I thought his whole deal was to be "cubanesque", and opening up a box full of cello versus just a nice paper wrapped bundle is kinda anticlimatic to me.

Pete has a damn good thing going here but I'm not one to go chasing the limited releases. If the originals don't stay up to par he'll be losing a loyal customer.

12-13-2010, 10:50 PM	#1
Pat1075 Feeling at Home Join Date: Nov 2008 First Name: Patrick Location: Lakewood, OH Posts: 755 Trading: (11)	Difference in Cabaiguan So apparently Cabaiguan is no longer being made in Miami. Now it is being made in the Nicaragua factory. I think that the quality has dropped a little since the change over has anyone else noticed this or feel the same way?

12-13-2010, 10:53 PM	#2
Bill86 Snob Join Date: Jul 2010 First Name: Bill Posts: 6,704 Trading: (67)	Re: Difference in Cabaiguan I don't know when/where the one I smoked was made but it tasted like soap....I chucked it at half an inch in if that.

12-14-2010, 01:35 AM	#11
huero71 Adjusting to the Life Join Date: Oct 2008 First Name: Mark Location: Porterville, CA Posts: 297 Trading: (2)	Re: Difference in Cabaiguan Differences in crops year to year? __________________ I.B.E.W. Local 47

12-14-2010, 01:39 AM	#12
Pat1075 Feeling at Home Join Date: Nov 2008 First Name: Patrick Location: Lakewood, OH Posts: 755 Trading: (11)	Re: Difference in Cabaiguan seems more like a blend change but it could be just that a difference in crops. Tat has so much attention to its rares and limiteds now I just think that its cores are taking a back burner now.

12-14-2010, 01:45 AM	#13
huero71 Adjusting to the Life Join Date: Oct 2008 First Name: Mark Location: Porterville, CA Posts: 297 Trading: (2)	Re: Difference in Cabaiguan That could be the case. I'm a Tat/DPG whore, and I've only had the rare off stick, but I'm sure my judgement is biased. The original Cabaiguans have always been a little mild for me, but the Guapos are another story. Guess I'll have to head out and find some to try for myself. __________________ I.B.E.W. Local 47

12-14-2010, 08:34 AM	#15
OHRD Garage w/ couch & ashtray Join Date: Sep 2009 First Name: Matt Posts: 1,377 Trading: (39)	Re: Difference in Cabaiguan First I've heard of this, all I have are over a year old. When did the transition happen? If they've moved production out of USA, it'd sure be nice to see a slight price drop. __________________ Did I tell you my garage has a couch and an ashtray? My wife doesn't let me sleep or smoke inside.

12-14-2010, 03:00 PM	#17
quantim0 Feeling at Home Join Date: Jan 2010 First Name: Andrew Location: Palm Bay, Fl Posts: 528 Trading: (20)	Re: Difference in Cabaiguan I have a mid September box with the My Father sticker on it. Have not smoked one from the box yet though __________________ All animals are equal, but some are more equal then others. -George Orwell

12-14-2010, 11:07 PM	#18
akumushi Habanos Apologist Join Date: May 2009 Posts: 1,298 Trading: (11)	Re: Difference in Cabaiguan Not sure how old it was, but I just smoked a coronas extra from Itzfrank that was delish. I would hate to see these change much as they are one of my favorite production tats. I think the guapos are pretty tasteless and boring, but the original line is awesome. __________________ "Eventually, however, every ash must drop. And the drop usually is as sudden as it is final."

12-15-2010, 01:38 AM	#19
Bill86 Snob Join Date: Jul 2010 First Name: Bill Posts: 6,704 Trading: (67)	Re: Difference in Cabaiguan Well then it's settled I'll give them a call in the morning and request it. I think I'm on to something here. I better write this down before I get drunk and forget. Thankfully the forum will document my antics.

12-15-2010, 09:43 AM	#20
rizzle Order Restored Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: st pete, fl Posts: 2,679 Trading: (23)	Re: Difference in Cabaiguan I haven't had any from Nicaragua yet, but I'm gonna be pissed if something is up with my Cabaiguans. I hope to hell the core Tat lines aren't going down in their quality or even seeing blend changes, that would just be a sin. And quite frankly, I can do without the cello in my boxes. I thought his whole deal was to be "cubanesque", and opening up a box full of cello versus just a nice paper wrapped bundle is kinda anticlimatic to me. Pete has a damn good thing going here but I'm not one to go chasing the limited releases. If the originals don't stay up to par he'll be losing a loyal customer.