Punch cutter + big ring = tunneling?

Dunkel · 06-21-2010, 05:29 PM

I always use a punch cutter on smaller ring cigars (48 ring and under) and have always had good results. When I've used a punch on bigger ring cigars about half the time they tunnel and go out. I don't have this problem with the same cigars when I use a guillotine. Anyone else notice this happening to them?

Ogre · 06-21-2010, 05:35 PM

No Doug, I think it just you. Actually I can say that I have had this problem. Lets see if anyone else does. Perhaps you are not using big enough of a punch!!!!

maninblack · 06-21-2010, 06:39 PM

I've never had this problem. I use a Xikar punch and most of my cigars are 50 and up.

Emjaysmash · 06-21-2010, 07:06 PM

When I have a cigar 56+ rg I usually use the punch and make a clover sort of shape on the top of it. I do find that only on hole in the center of a 56+ maes for less smoke, but I never noticed any tunneling.

Snake Hips · 06-22-2010, 03:01 AM

By principle, I always use a punch, and by principle, I never buy anything larger than 50rg. When I do end up with something as huge as a 52 by lack of choice, I punch it more than once (5 times, to be exact, in a 'cross' shape). Thus, I've never encountered this, but I think I'm disqualified I guess.

Don Fernando · 06-22-2010, 04:37 AM

Never had this problem, and I always punch bigger RG cigars.

Gophernut · 06-22-2010, 12:47 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Don Fernando

Never had this problem, and I always punch bigger RG cigars.

Never had a problem either.

06-22-2010, 12:58 PM

I have no more burn problems with large RG than I do with small RG, but I don't have many problems with burn at all. Why don't you try and cut the cap off with a knife and see if you have the same problem as you do with a punch? What kind of cigars are you smoking that tunnel? If they are CBID specials, I can tell you without a doubt it's the cigar. If you have the same problem with higher end cigars, I would suggest checking your RH level (probably fine, but have to ask), and making sure you are getting a good and even light (everyone screws this up from time to time). Those two factors affect the burn much more than anything other than the quality of the roll (weak/new torecedors make inconsistent cigars), just MHO.

06-22-2010, 05:06 PM

Guys I think it's called buy a bigger punch!

The Xicar that one of the other brothers mentioned is much
larger than yoru standard pinhole punch on the cheap plastic
ones....

REALMCCOY · 06-25-2010, 08:38 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by whodeeni

Guys I think it's called buy a bigger punch!

The Xicar that one of the other brothers mentioned is much
larger than yoru standard pinhole punch on the cheap plastic
ones....

Are you refering to the twist punch or the other Xikar punch, don't remember exactly what they are called.007 and 008?

Thrak · 06-26-2010, 09:21 AM

how are you guys punching multiple times w/o messing up the cap? Sometimes the cap cracks on me wth just 1 punch and you're making shapes? lol..

I must have poor punch technique

weak_link · 06-26-2010, 09:26 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Thrak

how are you guys punching multiple times w/o messing up the cap? Sometimes the cap cracks on me wth just 1 punch and you're making shapes? lol..

I must have poor punch technique

Press lightly and give it a couple twists as if you were trying to start a screw, then change spots and repeat. Similar technique to Ratters patent pending 'Cranial Screw Top Method.'

Emjaysmash · 06-26-2010, 10:02 AM

Also, try wetting the cap with some saliva. Helps with the cracks.

06-21-2010, 05:29 PM	#1
Dunkel Maduro & Oscuro Whore-O Join Date: Jun 2009 First Name: Doug Location: West by God Virginia Posts: 2,232 Trading: (75)	Punch cutter + big ring = tunneling? I always use a punch cutter on smaller ring cigars (48 ring and under) and have always had good results. When I've used a punch on bigger ring cigars about half the time they tunnel and go out. I don't have this problem with the same cigars when I use a guillotine. Anyone else notice this happening to them? __________________ Blue Label,Any Filipe Gregorio,Acid,Don Elias,El Mejor Espresso,Tierra del Sol

06-21-2010, 05:35 PM	#2
Ogre **CENSORED** Join Date: Apr 2010 First Name: Larry Location: Central Florida Posts: 12,068 Trading: (46)	Re: Punch cutter + big ring = tunneling? No Doug, I think it just you. Actually I can say that I have had this problem. Lets see if anyone else does. Perhaps you are not using big enough of a punch!!!!

06-21-2010, 06:39 PM	#3
maninblack Will smoke for food Join Date: Jan 2010 First Name: Kevin Location: Where the hoot owls f$ck the chickens Posts: 10,637 Trading: (80)	Re: Punch cutter + big ring = tunneling? I've never had this problem. I use a Xikar punch and most of my cigars are 50 and up. __________________ Proud member of the GMCGTPWHAFA

06-21-2010, 07:06 PM	#4
Emjaysmash The Hebrew Hammer Join Date: Oct 2008 First Name: M.J. Location: Milwaukee, WI Posts: 7,025 Trading: (76)	Re: Punch cutter + big ring = tunneling? When I have a cigar 56+ rg I usually use the punch and make a clover sort of shape on the top of it. I do find that only on hole in the center of a 56+ maes for less smoke, but I never noticed any tunneling. __________________

06-22-2010, 03:01 AM	#5
Snake Hips Götterdämmerung Join Date: Nov 2008 First Name: Tyler Location: Directly above the center of the Earth Posts: 1,013 Trading: (10)	Re: Punch cutter + big ring = tunneling? By principle, I always use a punch, and by principle, I never buy anything larger than 50rg. When I do end up with something as huge as a 52 by lack of choice, I punch it more than once (5 times, to be exact, in a 'cross' shape). Thus, I've never encountered this, but I think I'm disqualified I guess.

06-22-2010, 04:37 AM	#6
Don Fernando Postwhore Join Date: Oct 2008 First Name: Ferdinand Location: Singapore Posts: 10,070 Trading: (29)	Re: Punch cutter + big ring = tunneling? Never had this problem, and I always punch bigger RG cigars. __________________ check out my reviews on my blog.

06-22-2010, 12:58 PM	#8
Pistol Guest Posts: n/a	Re: Punch cutter + big ring = tunneling? I have no more burn problems with large RG than I do with small RG, but I don't have many problems with burn at all. Why don't you try and cut the cap off with a knife and see if you have the same problem as you do with a punch? What kind of cigars are you smoking that tunnel? If they are CBID specials, I can tell you without a doubt it's the cigar. If you have the same problem with higher end cigars, I would suggest checking your RH level (probably fine, but have to ask), and making sure you are getting a good and even light (everyone screws this up from time to time). Those two factors affect the burn much more than anything other than the quality of the roll (weak/new torecedors make inconsistent cigars), just MHO.

06-22-2010, 05:06 PM	#9
whodeeni Guest Posts: n/a	Re: Punch cutter + big ring = tunneling? Guys I think it's called buy a bigger punch! The Xicar that one of the other brothers mentioned is much larger than yoru standard pinhole punch on the cheap plastic ones....

06-26-2010, 09:21 AM	#11
Thrak .. the man from Nantucket Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: Canton, GA Posts: 558 Trading: (2)	Re: Punch cutter + big ring = tunneling? how are you guys punching multiple times w/o messing up the cap? Sometimes the cap cracks on me wth just 1 punch and you're making shapes? lol.. I must have poor punch technique

06-26-2010, 10:02 AM	#13
Emjaysmash The Hebrew Hammer Join Date: Oct 2008 First Name: M.J. Location: Milwaukee, WI Posts: 7,025 Trading: (76)	Re: Punch cutter + big ring = tunneling? Also, try wetting the cap with some saliva. Helps with the cracks. __________________