Census Bureau...Say What???

BigFrank · 06-01-2010, 03:43 PM

Well, apparently if you do not fill out your Census Form ( me ) they send someone to your house. Which by the way, I'm kinda sorta paying for. Odd.

The conversation was pretty one sided ( me saying no to everything ). My question is, do I really have to do this? I tossed the form out, and I really do not want to answer any questions. The polite girl said she will be returning tomorrow. She told me it's mandated by the constitution that I answer these questions. Can anyone shed some light on this for me?

md4958 · 06-01-2010, 03:48 PM

not sure what the big deal is... the form i got had basic questions like how many people in my household, ages, race, etc.

Id rather fill out the form than have to deal with somebody coming to my home.

lightning9191 · 06-01-2010, 03:48 PM

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Originally Posted by md4958

not sure what the big deal is... the form i got had basic questions like how many people in my household, ages, race, etc.

Id rather fill out the form than have to deal with somebody coming to my home.

They would probably stop bothering you....unless you don't want her to...then I guess you can play hard to get.

bobarian · 06-01-2010, 04:04 PM

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Originally Posted by BigFrank

Well, apparently if you do not fill out your Census Form ( me ) they send someone to your house. Which by the way, I'm kinda sorta paying for. Odd.

The conversation was pretty one sided ( me saying no to everything ). My question is, do I really have to do this? I tossed the form out, and I really do not want to answer any questions. The polite girl said she will be returning tomorrow. She told me it's mandated by the constitution that I answer these questions. Can anyone shed some light on this for me?

Yes. You are required by the US Constitution to provide certain basic information to the Census Bureau.

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Originally Posted by md4958

not sure what the big deal is... the form i got had basic questions like how many people in my household, ages, race, etc.

Id rather fill out the form than have to deal with somebody coming to my home.

I agree with Moe. What's the big deal?

Ratters · 06-02-2010, 01:43 AM

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Originally Posted by bobarian

Yes. You are required by the US Constitution to provide certain basic information to the Census Bureau.

I agree with Moe. What's the big deal?

I filled out number of people, sex, ages, and sent it in right after I got it. Haven't seen anyone at the door yet.

If they want any other information they can just check my facebook page.

Subvet642 · 06-02-2010, 08:37 AM

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Originally Posted by bobarian

Yes. You are required by the US Constitution to provide certain basic information to the Census Bureau.

Actually, no. All the Constitution says about the matter is: Article I, Section 2, Clause 3: "...The actual Enumeration shall be made within three Years after the first Meeting of the Congress of the United States, and within every subsequent Term of ten Years, in such Manner as they shall by Law direct. The Number of Representatives shall not exceed one for every thirty Thousand, but each State shall have at Least one Representative;..."

All the Constitution requires is that the population be counted for the apportionment of representitives in Congress, nothing more.

Barcode · 06-02-2010, 08:48 AM

I think what really pisses me off is the fact that the IRS, the Social Security Dept, Dept of Veterans Affairs all have all of my info and NONE of these people can talk to each other. The country has a 13 TRILLION dollar debt yet we are paying people to go around and gather info the they already have. Not to mention how much money did the Census spend on the ad campaign to tell you to fill out your Census, and why did I get 3 forms???????

DPD6030 · 06-01-2010, 03:49 PM

See here -------> http://www.cigarasylum.com/vb/showth...ighlight=cenus

Blueface · 06-01-2010, 03:52 PM

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Originally Posted by DPD6030

See here -------> http://www.cigarasylum.com/vb/showth...ighlight=cenus

I was going to post that thread of mine but you beat me to it.

I ultimately just conceded, filled it out and moved on.
I hope they don't verify it.

replicant_argent · 06-01-2010, 04:03 PM

A census "employee" stopped in front of our house Saturday. I say "employee" because she is probably being paid good money by me to move her considerable bulk at a VERY slow snails pace, but I digress.
She then oozed out of her car and waddled up to the neighbors (whom I call the Terrorists) house across the street. They didn't, of course answer their door after the Census Superfluous Worker waited for 5 minutes or so, knocking every minute or two. I told my wife as I watched this that it was probably a process server or a census worker. When she finally gave up, she sludged across the street and started asking my wife questions about them. My wife wasn't able to answer much, since they are so insular and arrogant, they do not interact with their neighbors (we are but low caste infidels, you see

) She was tempted to tell the gal that the reason they didn't fill out the census was that they were probably afraid of the information being shared with ICE.

DPD6030 · 06-01-2010, 04:05 PM

ICE isn't going to care! On a side note I had an illegal and called them. He was in custody on a misd. charge and they didn't want him. So why are we paying ICE to protect our borders? Apparently if they make it in and all the way to MI they an stay. I say hell no, send them back!

06-01-2010, 09:06 PM

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Originally Posted by DPD6030

ICE isn't going to care! On a side note I had an illegal and called them. He was in custody on a misd. charge and they didn't want him. So why are we paying ICE to protect our borders? Apparently if they make it in and all the way to MI they an stay. I say hell no, send them back!

Are you talking about the illegal Irish Andrew?

For all of you whom do not want to take the census I hope you're not in California. The census determines how many seats each state gets in the HoR among other things.

RGD. · 06-01-2010, 09:49 PM

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Originally Posted by icehog3

They don't get any information that anyone couldn't get with about 3 minutes work on the internet, so why stress it?

Exactly.

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Originally Posted by mariogolbee

. . . The census determines how many seats each state gets in the HoR among other things.

In addition to road funds, hospital, municipal, school planning, etc etc.

Ron

06-02-2010, 08:25 AM

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Originally Posted by RGD.

In addition to road funds, hospital, municipal, school planning, etc etc.

Stuff they only need to count numbers for.

I don't care if they get my name, birthplace, occupation and other data but asking for race is racist. It automatically assumes there is a difference and reinforces it with govn't policy. To be truly race neutral you need to stop categorizing. I have three of their "races" in me. If I'm supposed to pick the highest percentage one then the Prez should have picked "white" so that must not be the way. I usually go with the Cherokee one because they have been here the longest.

06-02-2010, 08:14 AM

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Originally Posted by mariogolbee

Are you talking about the illegal Irish Andrew?

For all of you whom do not want to take the census I hope you're not in California. The census determines how many seats each state gets in the HoR among other things.

I think most of the rest of the country would agree they need fewer Californians in HoR.

mosesbotbol · 06-01-2010, 04:04 PM

I was suprised how little detail the census collects. My girlfried is Miss Privacy, but in the end, they already have this information and more on us. No big deal for me to answer their questions.

It seems we are more guarded about giving the government personal info than we were 10 and 20 years ago.

Starscream · 06-01-2010, 04:05 PM

If you don't answer the questions, eventually they will have a sheriff's deputy escort the census taker to your house and stand there while you answer the questions. I mailed my form off weeks ago.

The Poet · 06-01-2010, 04:25 PM

Or just send them from MI to AZ, and let THEM take care of it!

As for the census, so what? I'd rather have the government know that I exist than treat me like I don't.

Tripp · 06-01-2010, 04:27 PM

My mother is a census taker.

Ashcan Bill · 06-01-2010, 04:44 PM

I've actually looked up quite a bit of census info from a hundred and fifty years ago while doing genealogy research.

You never know but someday your great great grandkids may want to know something about you. The census records might be their starting point.

06-01-2010, 03:43 PM	#1
BigFrank 5 3 1 Join Date: Nov 2008 First Name: Frank Location: Gym or Sofa. Posts: 1,896 Trading: (25)	Census Bureau...Say What??? Well, apparently if you do not fill out your Census Form ( me ) they send someone to your house. Which by the way, I'm kinda sorta paying for. Odd. The conversation was pretty one sided ( me saying no to everything ). My question is, do I really have to do this? I tossed the form out, and I really do not want to answer any questions. The polite girl said she will be returning tomorrow. She told me it's mandated by the constitution that I answer these questions. Can anyone shed some light on this for me? __________________ " Hope is the first step on the road to disappointment. "

06-01-2010, 03:48 PM	#2
md4958 Captain Cannoli Join Date: Oct 2008 First Name: Moe Location: Suffield, CT Posts: 5,712 Trading: (62)	Re: Census Bureau...Say What??? not sure what the big deal is... the form i got had basic questions like how many people in my household, ages, race, etc. Id rather fill out the form than have to deal with somebody coming to my home. __________________ "One fart can foul the air for everyone" - Esteemed philosopher "If avoiding the nasty $hit is being a snob, them I am guilty as charged."- Same esteemed philosopher.

06-02-2010, 08:48 AM	#7
Barcode Adjusting to the Life Join Date: May 2010 First Name: Tom Location: Everett, WA Posts: 477 Trading: (16)	Re: Census Bureau...Say What??? I think what really pisses me off is the fact that the IRS, the Social Security Dept, Dept of Veterans Affairs all have all of my info and NONE of these people can talk to each other. The country has a 13 TRILLION dollar debt yet we are paying people to go around and gather info the they already have. Not to mention how much money did the Census spend on the ad campaign to tell you to fill out your Census, and why did I get 3 forms???????

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DPD6030 Shepard of the sheeple Join Date: Oct 2008 First Name: Andrew Location: The Mitten Posts: 7,166 Trading: (151)	Re: Census Bureau...Say What??? See here -------> http://www.cigarasylum.com/vb/showth...ighlight=cenus

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replicant_argent Gravy Boat Winnah. Join Date: Oct 2008 First Name: Pete Location: my attorney has advised against giving this information to insane people Posts: 5,326 Trading: (22)	Re: Census Bureau...Say What??? A census "employee" stopped in front of our house Saturday. I say "employee" because she is probably being paid good money by me to move her considerable bulk at a VERY slow snails pace, but I digress. She then oozed out of her car and waddled up to the neighbors (whom I call the Terrorists) house across the street. They didn't, of course answer their door after the Census Superfluous Worker waited for 5 minutes or so, knocking every minute or two. I told my wife as I watched this that it was probably a process server or a census worker. When she finally gave up, she sludged across the street and started asking my wife questions about them. My wife wasn't able to answer much, since they are so insular and arrogant, they do not interact with their neighbors (we are but low caste infidels, you see ) She was tempted to tell the gal that the reason they didn't fill out the census was that they were probably afraid of the information being shared with ICE. __________________ www.stogietorch.com Some days call for a stiff Pomade.

06-01-2010, 04:05 PM	#11
DPD6030 Shepard of the sheeple Join Date: Oct 2008 First Name: Andrew Location: The Mitten Posts: 7,166 Trading: (151)	Re: Census Bureau...Say What??? ICE isn't going to care! On a side note I had an illegal and called them. He was in custody on a misd. charge and they didn't want him. So why are we paying ICE to protect our borders? Apparently if they make it in and all the way to MI they an stay. I say hell no, send them back!

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mosesbotbol That's a Corgi Join Date: Oct 2008 First Name: Moses Location: Boston Posts: 6,171 Trading: (6)	Re: Census Bureau...Say What??? I was suprised how little detail the census collects. My girlfried is Miss Privacy, but in the end, they already have this information and more on us. No big deal for me to answer their questions. It seems we are more guarded about giving the government personal info than we were 10 and 20 years ago. __________________ Port Wine & Claret \| British Cars \| Welsh Corgi's

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Starscream Knowhutimean, Vern? Join Date: Oct 2008 First Name: Andy Location: In a little town somewhere in the USA Posts: 10,237 Trading: (4)	Re: Census Bureau...Say What??? If you don't answer the questions, eventually they will have a sheriff's deputy escort the census taker to your house and stand there while you answer the questions. I mailed my form off weeks ago. __________________ Insert quote here.

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The Poet Il megglior fabbro Join Date: Jun 2009 First Name: Thomas Location: Hickory, NC Posts: 8,420 Trading: (2)	Re: Census Bureau...Say What??? Or just send them from MI to AZ, and let THEM take care of it! As for the census, so what? I'd rather have the government know that I exist than treat me like I don't.

06-01-2010, 04:27 PM	#19
Tripp Pepin Ho of the NorthWest Join Date: Oct 2008 First Name: Tripp Location: Portland, OR Posts: 487 Trading: (5)	Re: Census Bureau...Say What??? My mother is a census taker. __________________ Make sure you visit the chat! Newcomers welcome. Pete_Johnson: Tripp get the ** out of here with that bull** Benchmade. C'mon Son!

06-01-2010, 04:44 PM	#20
Ashcan Bill Ol' Dude Join Date: Oct 2008 First Name: Bill Location: Henderson, NV Posts: 1,901 Trading: (6)	Re: Census Bureau...Say What??? I've actually looked up quite a bit of census info from a hundred and fifty years ago while doing genealogy research. You never know but someday your great great grandkids may want to know something about you. The census records might be their starting point.