A Wurst rant

RevSmoke · 05-07-2010, 03:22 PM

OK, so I have a huge pet peeve and it goes like this.

A wurst is defined as a medium or large sausage.

Now then, Bratwurst are specific type of wurst, and are made by mixing ground meat (usually pork, but maybe adding other meats) to a specific style seasoning which gives it a typical brat flavor.

Now, there are all sorts of places which are making different kinds of brats. In fact, a local store boasts of over 30 different types of brats. So, being curious I inquired, expecting such things as beef brats, venison brats, chicken brats, turkey brats, etc... The meat might change, but the seasoning remained the same.

But no, that's not it at all. They had Cajun-brats, jalepeno brats, cheddar-brats, pepper jack-brats, chili-brats, and others. I asked, "so, do they all have the normal brat seasonings in them? To which I was informed they do not. OK, so since when did -brat become the new -wurst? It seems rather simple that since a brat is a specific type of wurst, how did brat come to be the new replacement for wurst?

Since wurst means sausage, and a brat is only one specific type of sausage, shouldn't they sport wurst name for sausage? cheddar-wurst, Cajun-wurst, chili-wurst, pizza-wurst, etc...

I think they are trying to say that they are smaller sausages that go on a bun, but still, they are not brats. I mean, they have brat patties next to the bratwurst, and they have the same seasoning as their regular brats. I am OK with that, for they use the typical brat seasonings.

OK, so this just frustrates me, and I don't know why. But thanks anyway for letting me rant. I feel better.

Peace of the Lord be with you.

kydsid · 05-07-2010, 03:25 PM

Not enough Germans left in the US for it to be used correctly. Welcome to bastardization 101. You think Indian Fry Bread is Indian? FWIW it bugs the hell out of me too. But if the place has good beer by the end of the meal I forget why I was mad.

P.S. Frieden des Lords mit Ihnen.

RevSmoke · 05-07-2010, 03:35 PM

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Originally Posted by kydsid

Not enough Germans left in the US for it to be used correctly. Welcome to bastardization 101. You think Indian Fry Bread is Indian? FWIW it bugs the hell out of me too. But if the place has good beer by the end of the meal I forget why I was mad.

P.S. Frieden des Lords mit Ihnen.

Hey, this was a butcher shop - owned and operated by the same family for a couple generations. They even have a guy who speaks with a German accent.

P.S. Unt mit dir!

hotreds · 05-07-2010, 03:42 PM

That's the wurst rant I've ever read!

Der Frieden Gottes mit dir, mein Freund!

md4958 · 05-07-2010, 03:59 PM

'Cause nobody knows what a Wurst is Todd. Most people know what a Brat is though.

Eleven · 05-07-2010, 05:08 PM

Thats it! From this point on I will embrace my German heritage and start correcting these fools and their Brat-Errors!

OK, so other than my Grandfather being stationed there, my family hasn't lived in Germany since the late 1600's, but I shall endeavor to persevere!

Vorb · 05-07-2010, 05:52 PM

Well, it's like how all fru-fru drinks served in a martini glass are all
somehow <chocomintafruitrollup>-tinis...

Bugs the heck out of me too.

RevSmoke · 05-07-2010, 10:46 PM

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Originally Posted by Vorb

Well, it's like how all fru-fru drinks served in a martini glass are all
somehow <chocomintafruitrollup>-tinis...

Bugs the heck out of me too.

Amen brother, preach it. Might be a tasty drink, but they ain't martini. And by the way, I am not a fan of martinis whatsoever. But it just ain't right!

PAX

Ratters · 05-07-2010, 06:21 PM

Oh man, makes me want to go check the fridge for some liverwurst.

Kreth · 05-07-2010, 06:27 PM

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Originally Posted by Ratters

Oh man, makes me want to go check the fridge for some liverwurst.

I thought I was the only one.

My wife thinks it's disgusting that I consider liverwurst a snack food...

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SeanGAR · 05-07-2010, 07:20 PM

And raisin bread ... for *&^% sakes, they put raisins in it of all things.

Starscream · 05-07-2010, 07:55 PM

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Originally Posted by SeanGAR

And raisin bread ... for *&^% sakes, they put raisins in it of all things.

chippewastud79 · 05-07-2010, 07:59 PM

If they still use the bratwurst meat but then add other special goodies like japalenos and cheese, can they still be classified as brats? Or are you strictly a purist where only unmolested bratwursts can have the preface of brat?

Ratters · 05-07-2010, 10:55 PM

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Originally Posted by Kreth

I thought I was the only one.

My wife thinks it's disgusting that I consider liverwurst a snack food...

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Oh, I love the stuff. Mostly I just spread it on saltines. It's like salt in paste form. My fiance swore she hated it until I made her try some. Now she loves it.

MarkinAZ · 05-07-2010, 11:13 PM

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Originally Posted by Ratters

Oh man, makes me want to go check the fridge for some liverwurst.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Kreth

I thought I was the only one.

My wife thinks it's disgusting that I consider liverwurst a snack food...
Posted via Mobile Device

Nothing better than having a couple slices of rye bread. No, make that dark rye with mustard and mayo. Pile on several slices of your favorite liverwurst, and then top it off with several slices of muenster cheese. A good beer is manditory and life is good

joeobx · 05-08-2010, 12:32 AM

I think a lot of it is marketing.... brat is easer to sell than wurst, which reminds people of liver.

Don Fernando · 05-08-2010, 02:34 AM

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Originally Posted by RevSmoke

Now then, Bratwurst are specific type of wurst, and are made by mixing ground meat (usually pork, but maybe adding other meats) to a specific style seasoning which gives it a typical brat flavor.

and this is where you go wrong Rev

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A bratwurst (pronounced [ˈbʁaːtvʊɐst] De-Bratwurst.ogg (help·info)) is a sausage usually composed of veal, pork or beef. The name is German, derived from Old High German brätwurst, from brät-, which is finely chopped meat and -wurst, or sausage. Though the brat in bratwurst describes the way the sausages are made, it is often misconstrued to be derived from the German verb "braten", which means to pan fry or roast.[1] Bratwurst are usually grilled and sometimes cooked in broth or beer.

Brat is finely chopped meat, not the seasoning.

pmwz · 05-08-2010, 02:43 AM

let me as geman guy explain you what bratwurst means:
Bratwurst comes fom the geman words Brät = chopped/ground beaf + wurst =sausage. If the sausage made out of brät you can call it Bratwurst.

RevSmoke · 05-08-2010, 09:43 PM

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Originally Posted by Don Fernando

and this is where you go wrong Rev

Brat is finely chopped meat, not the seasoning.

Quote:

Originally Posted by pmwz

let me as geman guy explain you what bratwurst means:
Bratwurst comes fom the geman words Brät = chopped/ground beaf + wurst =sausage. If the sausage made out of brät you can call it Bratwurst.

OK, so you have definitions from German, and I am wrong.

Too bad, it's my rant and I can like to do what I want to do with it.

It's my delusion, allow me my fantasies and dreams. Here you go, trying to dash them into crumbles with reality.

I have only one thing to say to both of you...

Then, take a brat - slap on some Kraut and Dusseldorf mustard (do that with a Jalepeno brat), set aside your next cigar, grab a fine German barley pop with the foam on top and...

Peace of the Lord be with you.

CigarNut · 05-08-2010, 04:43 PM

It's time for a cigar! I think I will have a corndog on a stick with that...

05-07-2010, 03:22 PM	#1
RevSmoke Ain't Never Gonna Leave Join Date: Oct 2008 First Name: Todd Location: Northcentral woods of Wisconsin Posts: 6,861 Trading: (51)	A Wurst rant OK, so I have a huge pet peeve and it goes like this. A wurst is defined as a medium or large sausage. Now then, Bratwurst are specific type of wurst, and are made by mixing ground meat (usually pork, but maybe adding other meats) to a specific style seasoning which gives it a typical brat flavor. Now, there are all sorts of places which are making different kinds of brats. In fact, a local store boasts of over 30 different types of brats. So, being curious I inquired, expecting such things as beef brats, venison brats, chicken brats, turkey brats, etc... The meat might change, but the seasoning remained the same. But no, that's not it at all. They had Cajun-brats, jalepeno brats, cheddar-brats, pepper jack-brats, chili-brats, and others. I asked, "so, do they all have the normal brat seasonings in them? To which I was informed they do not. OK, so since when did -brat become the new -wurst? It seems rather simple that since a brat is a specific type of wurst, how did brat come to be the new replacement for wurst? Since wurst means sausage, and a brat is only one specific type of sausage, shouldn't they sport wurst name for sausage? cheddar-wurst, Cajun-wurst, chili-wurst, pizza-wurst, etc... I think they are trying to say that they are smaller sausages that go on a bun, but still, they are not brats. I mean, they have brat patties next to the bratwurst, and they have the same seasoning as their regular brats. I am OK with that, for they use the typical brat seasonings. OK, so this just frustrates me, and I don't know why. But thanks anyway for letting me rant. I feel better. Peace of the Lord be with you. __________________ Todd__ "Smoke what you like, and enjoy it!"

05-07-2010, 03:25 PM	#2
kydsid Ditat Deus Join Date: Apr 2009 First Name: Jason Location: Among the Pines Posts: 2,361 Trading: (46)	Re: A Wurst rant Not enough Germans left in the US for it to be used correctly. Welcome to bastardization 101. You think Indian Fry Bread is Indian? FWIW it bugs the hell out of me too. But if the place has good beer by the end of the meal I forget why I was mad. P.S. Frieden des Lords mit Ihnen. __________________ Check out the Cigar Asylum Newbie Sampler Trade

05-07-2010, 03:42 PM	#4
hotreds Ephesians 2:8 Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: 5 miles past "Resume Speed" Posts: 11,665 Trading: (63)	Re: A Wurst rant That's the wurst rant I've ever read! Der Frieden Gottes mit dir, mein Freund! __________________ God loves you so much, that he made you read this, just to let you know.

05-07-2010, 03:59 PM	#5
md4958 Captain Cannoli Join Date: Oct 2008 First Name: Moe Location: Suffield, CT Posts: 5,712 Trading: (62)	Re: A Wurst rant 'Cause nobody knows what a Wurst is Todd. Most people know what a Brat is though. __________________ "One fart can foul the air for everyone" - Esteemed philosopher "If avoiding the nasty $hit is being a snob, them I am guilty as charged."- Same esteemed philosopher.

05-07-2010, 05:08 PM	#6
Eleven Solid As The Sun Join Date: Aug 2009 First Name: Scott Location: SW Ohio Posts: 1,859 Trading: (23)	Re: A Wurst rant Thats it! From this point on I will embrace my German heritage and start correcting these fools and their Brat-Errors! OK, so other than my Grandfather being stationed there, my family hasn't lived in Germany since the late 1600's, but I shall endeavor to persevere! __________________ CA: putting the 'man' in bromance since 2008! --markem.

05-07-2010, 05:52 PM	#7
Vorb Still Watching My Back Join Date: Nov 2008 Posts: 66 Trading: (7)	Re: A Wurst rant Well, it's like how all fru-fru drinks served in a martini glass are all somehow <chocomintafruitrollup>-tinis... Bugs the heck out of me too.

05-07-2010, 06:21 PM	#9
Ratters Have My Own Room Join Date: Oct 2008 Posts: 1,848 Trading: (2)	Re: A Wurst rant Oh man, makes me want to go check the fridge for some liverwurst.

05-07-2010, 07:20 PM	#11
SeanGAR Crotchety Geezer Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: Radford VA Posts: 911 Trading: (3)	Re: A Wurst rant And raisin bread ... for &^% sakes, they put raisins in it of all things. __________________ How can you have any pudding if you don't eat your meat?*

05-07-2010, 07:59 PM	#13
chippewastud79 Fatter than you! Join Date: Oct 2008 First Name: Larry Location: A little place called home. Posts: 5,397 Trading: (44)	Re: A Wurst rant If they still use the bratwurst meat but then add other special goodies like japalenos and cheese, can they still be classified as brats? Or are you strictly a purist where only unmolested bratwursts can have the preface of brat? __________________ If we weren't supposed to eat animals, then how come they're made of meat? You can never have too many cigars, they are like an investment in good times.

05-08-2010, 12:32 AM	#16
joeobx just playing in the storm Join Date: Oct 2009 First Name: Joe Location: Fredericksburg. VA VCM Country Posts: 1,117 Trading: (4)	Re: A Wurst rant I think a lot of it is marketing.... brat is easer to sell than wurst, which reminds people of liver. __________________ it's all fun and games till the flying monkeys show up

05-08-2010, 02:43 AM	#18
pmwz Adjusting to the Life Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: cologne Posts: 372 Trading: (0)	Re: A Wurst rant let me as geman guy explain you what bratwurst means: Bratwurst comes fom the geman words Brät = chopped/ground beaf + wurst =sausage. If the sausage made out of brät you can call it Bratwurst.

05-08-2010, 04:43 PM	#20
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