Differences In Tats???

[longknocker]

I'm Becoming A Complete Tat Whore! Seems Like That's The Only Smoke I Really Crave, Now. What Are The Differences Between The "Regular" Tat Line From Miami & The Havana VI?

Thanks, All!

What do you consider the "regular" line?

[Emjaysmash]

Originally Posted by klipsch

What do you consider the "regular" line?

Do you mean the white line or the Brown line? EDIT: Nvm, seems the brown line is the "Miami" line?


All I know is that the white (series P) line is made with mixed filler, while the others are not.

[tedrodgerscpa]

Brown labeled tats are rolled in Miami, whereas the rest of the line is rolled in Nicaragua.

That's part of the price premium for the brown labels over the red labels.

The line was carefully blended by Don Pepin Garcia, so I'd highly recommend you explore more of his products if you enjoy Tatuaje.

I find the brown labeled cigars to be amongst the stronger of the line (with the Black and T110 even fuller), and the red labeled a more medium to full.

I dont' think the white labeled tats are in production any longer, but these were mixed filler and even 'milder' than the red labeled.

Other brand offshoots, such as La Riqueza, Cabaiguan, and Ambos Mundos vary in strength and quality (Ambos Mundos is the only Tat product I don't care for).


You can also read more at the tatuajecigars.com website

[issues]

I find the red labels to be milder than the browns.

They remind me of the El Rey de los Habanos; not a bad stick at all but I much prefer the browns.

[Razorhog]

Never had a brown, but I love the Red! I think the white label is made from scraps after making the others. They are cheap, might be worth a buy for a yard gar.

[ucubed]

The reds are Nicaraguan Puro (all nicaraguan), white ( long and medium fillers, nicaraguan puro), brown (Corojo wrappers and nicaraguan filler)

You forgot the El Triunfador and the new El Triunfador, plus the "vintage" line and l'esprit de la verite, plus the "monster" series, and the balcks in your list...the original El Triunfador is basically the Cabaiguan Guapos Maduro that was meant for Europe, but such a high demand in the states that were created that it is not a staple. It has a brownish label in a lancero format. The NEW El Triunfadors will come in 6 difference sizes and is blended differently than the original with different combinations of leaves and filler.

You then have the new "vintage" line which will be have set price similar to padron and those are exactly are what they say they are. They are vintage and will be Tatuaje's "premium" line.

The l'esprit de la verite has been in production basically since 2007. That's when the first crops were planted. In 2008, they were picked rolled and fermented for about 1 year and then they sat in the aging bins for another year. These cigars will are basically 2 years old every batch because in 2008 they planted a whole new crop and in 2009 they planted a new one. Each year the artwork will be different. They too will come in multiple sizes

Then the monster series as you may know will be based off famous "monsters" that started off with the Frank, then this past year the Drac and the Boris. This year will be Leatherface which is based off the Drac cigar but tweaked. It may not be done this year, it depends if the boxes get done by May, says Pete in a recent review.

You have the black label that comes in the Toro size which is a CRA exclusive, robusto (in cello), and the corona gorda (jar release). They were Pete's personal blend of Nicaraguan-grown tobaccos and were limited released. (One of my favorite cigars of all time is the Corona Gorda)...

and as Ted said La Riqueza (Nicaraguan Binder and Filler are encased in a Dark Natural Connecticut Broadleaf Wrapper), Cabaiguan (Connecticut seed Shade Grown Ecuadorian wrapper and Nicaraguan filler), and Ambos Mundos (Using a lesser grade tobacco of the same varieties used in other Tatuaje cigar like color variations and such)... But you also have the Cabaiguan Guapos (It features an Ecuadorian Sun Grown wrapper) and the maduros (the guapos being a silver band on the top and bottom of the Cabaiguan label) and the Ambos Mundos (whose bands will be changing) has 2 the Ecuadorian Sumatra (Red label) and Nicaraguan Habano (yellow label)..

You have the RC 184 and the RC 233 which are huge, the t110 with the same red white blue label which is Hawaiian exclusive, the red and black tubo (which Pete says he won't do anymore). The east and west coast (the west coast was released twice the original Exclusivo Lado Occidential and the 2nd saying west side...the original is 10x better than the 2nd release...and the east being Exclusivo Zona del Este) The verocu no.9 a holts exclusive, the reserva and cojonu lines of the browns (similar to the browns with different wrappers) and I think that's it, if I'm wrong on the information please correct me, I typed this up rather quickly

[Smokin Gator]

In general I like the browns more than the reds. They are a little more full bodied and are more multi-dimesional. I have had a couple of red hermosas and Angeles that were outstanding though. Really sweet and creamy.

Just don't get started on the Verocus!!!

[neoflex]

Originally Posted by Smokin Gator

In general I like the browns more than the reds. They are a little more full bodied and are more multi-dimesional. I have had a couple of red hermosas and Angeles that were outstanding though. Really sweet and creamy.

Just don't get started on the Verocus!!!

The East/Wests are the shiz for me in the Tat line. My only complaint about them is the wrappers are so damn delicate that if you look at them wrong they split. Haven't smoked the Verocu tubos that I have yet to see how they compare and resisted the 9s simply because of the size as I feel like I have to many smokes that size currently. I do love me some Unicos to though. Smoked my first Ambos Mundos yesterday and really enjoyed it. For the price point I thought it wasn't a bad smoke. Still have yet to try the Series P line and the two T110 that Mario sent me are getting torched as soon as the weather here really breaks and I get to sit out back with one wit a nice rum and Dr Pepper

[JJG]

Originally Posted by Smokin Gator

In general I like the browns more than the reds. They are a little more full bodied and are more multi-dimesional.

yep, definitely the most complex in my opinion. I started out smoking the Brown labels and made my way around the other lines. but I have come back to the original browns as my personal favorite. and so far I'd say the Cojonu '09s are hands down the best in my opinion, the only Tat I still buy regularly.

I just wish they were a little more consistent. It seems like out of every three brown Tats I smoke; one is amazing, one is pretty good, and one is a total dud. same thing with the Riquezas. but if you do get a good one...wow.

[maverickdrinker]

J21s are my favorite.....

[MiamiE]

I havent had a Tat I like yet. Ive only had the red and white labels though. Passed on a brown label at my B&M last night.

[longknocker]

According To Cigars International, The Tatuaje Group (Miami) Is Blended In Miami By Don Pepin Garcia. The Havana VI Is Blended By Jose Pepin Garcia (His Son???) In Nicaragua. Is The Tat Havana VI Line A Cheaper, Lower Quality Line With A Completely Different Taste? I Love The Tat Line From Miami But Haven't Sampled The Havana VI Line. Thanks For All The Help, Guys!

[Col. Kurtz]

Originally Posted by longknocker

According To Cigars International, The Tatuaje Group (Miami) Is Blended In Miami By Don Pepin Garcia. The Havana VI Is Blended By Jose Pepin Garcia (His Son???) In Nicaragua. Is The Tat Havana VI Line A Cheaper, Lower Quality Line With A Completely Different Taste? I Love The Tat Line From Miami But Haven't Sampled The Havana VI Line. Thanks For All The Help, Guys!

Greg,

If I understand it correctly (and I probably don't since I'm not a huge Tat fan).

-The Brown labels are rolled in Miami.
-The Red and White labels are rolled in Nic. and due to the lower labor cost are a lower priced alternative.
-The White label is a mixed long and medium length filler.
-Jamie is Jose Don Pepin Garcia's son.

Hope this helps a little.

[RevSmoke]

Originally Posted by longknocker

According To Cigars International, The Tatuaje Group (Miami) Is Blended In Miami By Don Pepin Garcia. The Havana VI Is Blended By Jose Pepin Garcia (His Son???) In Nicaragua. Is The Tat Havana VI Line A Cheaper, Lower Quality Line With A Completely Different Taste? I Love The Tat Line From Miami But Haven't Sampled The Havana VI Line. Thanks For All The Help, Guys!

Basically, the VI is the red line, and is less expensive because labor is cheaper in Nicaragua than in Miami. The blend is also a bit different than the brown. Is it lower quality? No!

[longknocker]

Originally Posted by Col. Kurtz

Greg,

If I understand it correctly (and I probably don't since I'm not a huge Tat fan).

-The Brown labels are rolled in Miami.
-The Red and White labels are rolled in Nic. and due to the lower labor cost are a lower priced alternative.
-The White label is a mixed long and medium length filler.
-Jamie is Jose Don Pepin Garcia's son.

Hope this helps a little.

Thanks! So DPG & Jose Don Pepin Garcia One & The Same?

Originally Posted by RevSmoke

Basically, the VI is the red line, and is less expensive because labor is cheaper in Nicaragua than in Miami. The blend is also a bit different than the brown. Is it lower quality? No!

Thanks, Rev! What Are The Differences In Taste, Please? Thanks!

[cort]

All these questions are hurting my head Greg

Give me your addy and I will send you a few Red's

[Col. Kurtz]

Originally Posted by longknocker

Thanks! So DPG & Jose Don Pepin Garcia One & The Same?

Pretty sure.

[RevSmoke]

Originally Posted by longknocker

Thanks, Rev! What Are The Differences In Taste, Please? Thanks!

You haven't tried either of these yet? Hmm. The browns (Miami) are bolder with a bit more spice than the red (Havana VI) line. They both exhibit pepper, with the red line have more leather and come the brown some cream in the flavors. I have never found sweet or cocoa or such type flavors, both line come across as earthier.

If I can summarize that way.

Personally, I find the smaller ring guage in both lines to be tastier - my favorites are the Noella (brown) and Angeles (red).

Peace of the Lord be with you.

[jaymz]

Originally Posted by longknocker

So DPG & Jose Don Pepin Garcia One & The Same?

Don José "Pepin" Garcia [current C.E.O. of El Rey de los Habanos]

I always took the "Don" moniker as a sign of respect. And the "Pepin" moniker as a nickname.