Question for EBay sellers... Scams?

Footbag · 02-17-2010, 05:06 PM

I just listed a Used iPhone 2G on Ebay. It is already up to $152.50 with a few hours left. I marked the sale CONUS only. The high bidder only has one previous feedback and buy from a year ago.
Now I'm reading about how the iPhone is the number one scammed item for sellers on Ebay. I already know to look out for a phishing E-mail telling me I've been paid which is supposedly from ******. Is there anything else I can look out for? Assuming I get paid, how do I know if it's a stolen card which will be reversed?
Is seller protection worth it? I'm not sure if I qualify, but is it something to look into?

Is there a way to have ****** check a suspicious payment?

hotreds · 02-17-2010, 05:23 PM

Let's talk again once the sale is over and you know who won. Only then can I or anyone else really give you a helpful answer.

Sadly, all those poopail and Ebay fraud protection helpers are worthless. Only if you have a really high feedback and do a lot of selling/buying will they make an effort- since they want to keep you.

LMK when it's over and I'll use my Ebay intuition to help you out!

Footbag · 02-17-2010, 05:27 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by hotreds

Let's talk again once the sale is over and you know who won. Only then can I or anyone else really give you a helpful answer.

Sadly, all those poopail and Ebay fraud protection helpers are worthless. Only if you have a really high feedback and do a lot of selling/buying will they make an effort- since they want to keep you.

LMK when it's over and I'll use my Ebay intuition to help you out!

I'm sure I'll be re-posting. I actually have another iPhone to sell, so am really hoping this one goes smoothly.

02-17-2010, 05:29 PM

You can tell it's a legit payment when you log into PP and see the amount in your balance.

Footbag · 02-17-2010, 05:36 PM

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Originally Posted by Darrell

You can tell it's a legit payment when you log into PP and see the amount in your balance.

That's what I initially thought until I read about the scammers using stolen credit cards. We'l see. I may just be paranoid, but we hear lots of scams at work. They can be very creative.

Blueface · 02-17-2010, 05:39 PM

Accept PP only.
Once it hits your account, you are in like flint, unless the buyer later disputes the purchase.
PP verifies its users so any credit card on file and information provided is checked. Hard to imagine a stolen credit card used for PP.

Footbag · 02-17-2010, 05:41 PM

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Originally Posted by Blueface

Accept PP only.
Once it hits your account, you are in like flint, unless the buyer later disputes the purchase.
PP verifies its users so any credit card on file and information provided is checked. Hard to imagine a stolen credit card used for PP.

OK. I am accepting PP and US shipping only. The more I read, the more it seems like the scammers do more screwing up of auctions then anything.

newcigarz · 02-17-2010, 05:42 PM

I always make sure to specify that I only ship to confirmed addresses. This in itself is not 100 % fool proof, but PP will offer protection if you do.

You can also set up buyer restrictions when listing your item, such as buyers rmust have a US based address, not have negative feedback etc.

Footbag · 02-17-2010, 05:44 PM

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Originally Posted by newcigarz

I always make sure to specify that I only ship to confirmed addresses. This in itself is not 100 % fool proof, but PP will offer protection if you do.

I didn't specify that, and hope the buyer has a confirmed address. I will on the next phone. I'm also afraid that an obvious scammer would leave bad feedback.

jsnake · 02-17-2010, 07:43 PM

Take all the measures listed and also ship only to confirmed addresses. I have had problems twice with jewelery purchases and Poop pal was quick to refund my money. I am done with Ebay though.

Footbag · 02-17-2010, 07:49 PM

Well... The current high bidder has 0 feedback. I hope I don't have to re-list it or get bad feedback somehow.

Footbag · 02-17-2010, 08:30 PM

Whew... Sold for $178.50 and the buyer looks legit. 67 buys with 100% feedback. Now I'm just hoping the payment comes.

hotreds · 02-17-2010, 08:33 PM

Good to hear! I know I always cringed when I had a winner with 0 or 1 feedback! Lotsa luck to ya!

Blueface · 02-18-2010, 07:38 AM

Looks like this will work out for you.

I remember the scammer that once tried to nail my son.
Good thing I got involved.
He listed a trailer I gave him from when I had the business that he later took over.
The trailer was worth around $1,200 brand new.
Used as it was, $500 would be a deal for him to get.
The purchaser had a "0" rating.
He bought it for $800.
He offered my son to pay him "Extra" so my son could then deposit the remainder for him.
(Get where this is going so far?)

He sends a check to my son, to my address as he lived with me at the time.
That is where I go involved.
I opened the envelope thinking it was for me since we have the same name.
There was a check inside and it was for around $1,800 if I recall correctly.
I asked my son about it and he filled me in.
I noted the name difference on the check to the buyer.
I looked up the name on the check and located a number for this "Dr." on the check.
Turns out his checks were all stolen via a scam and this check was bogus and long cancelled.

So, my foolish son would have deposited the useless check, paid the seller the difference into his account, the trailer would have stayed in the garage, the check would have bounced, and he would have been out $1,000.

Things like that happen, you just have to be wiser than the thieves are. In this case, we were. Son learned a valuable lesson. Information on buyer turned over to the authorities.

elderboy02 · 02-18-2010, 07:45 AM

Whenever I get a P-pal payment, I immediately withdraw it to my bank account.

Footbag · 02-18-2010, 07:47 AM

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Originally Posted by elderboy02

Whenever I get a P-pal payment, I immediately withdraw it to my bank account.

Since I don't have many sales this year, my payments are held for 21 days or until delivery. Thats one of the larger stumbling blocks.

elderboy02 · 02-18-2010, 07:51 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Footbag

Since I don't have many sales this year, my payments are held for 21 days or until delivery. Thats one of the larger stumbling blocks.

They do that? Wow, payfail sucks.

Blueface · 02-18-2010, 08:43 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Footbag

Since I don't have many sales this year, my payments are held for 21 days or until delivery. Thats one of the larger stumbling blocks.

Wow.
Good to know.
Haven't sold anything there in over two years.

Starz26 · 02-18-2010, 10:46 AM

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Originally Posted by elderboy02

Whenever I get a P-pal payment, I immediately withdraw it to my bank account.

I thought I was safe doing that too, but when someone mentioned cegars on my poopal account, they canceled a withdrawl I made 2 days prior and held my money for 2 weeks.....

poopal sucks, will not cover you, protection is a joke.....I bought an electronic item that was never delivered, had proof that the seller could never had delivered it to me as they never signed in the account the item came from (only place to buy it) and even with the proof, they took the sellers worn in an email that said "i sent it" .....sorry for the rant...

Wish there was a better way that was just as quick...

Kreth · 02-18-2010, 08:30 AM

A lot of guys on a golf forum I frequent are really unhappy with Ebay's more recent focus on buyer protection. Basically, a buyer can do no wrong, except in extreme circumstances. Lots of stories about buyers leaving bad feedback because the seller dared to send a message inquiring about slow payment, things like that.
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02-17-2010, 05:06 PM	#1
Footbag I Need My Space Join Date: Oct 2008 First Name: Adam Location: NEPA Posts: 1,216 Trading: (7)	Question for EBay sellers... Scams? I just listed a Used iPhone 2G on Ebay. It is already up to $152.50 with a few hours left. I marked the sale CONUS only. The high bidder only has one previous feedback and buy from a year ago. Now I'm reading about how the iPhone is the number one scammed item for sellers on Ebay. I already know to look out for a phishing E-mail telling me I've been paid which is supposedly from ****. Is there anything else I can look out for? Assuming I get paid, how do I know if it's a stolen card which will be reversed? Is seller protection worth it? I'm not sure if I qualify, but is it something to look into? Is there a way to have **** check a suspicious payment? Last edited by Footbag; 02-17-2010 at 05:12 PM.

02-17-2010, 05:23 PM	#2
hotreds Ephesians 2:8 Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: 5 miles past "Resume Speed" Posts: 11,665 Trading: (63)	Re: Question for EBay sellers... Scams? Let's talk again once the sale is over and you know who won. Only then can I or anyone else really give you a helpful answer. Sadly, all those poopail and Ebay fraud protection helpers are worthless. Only if you have a really high feedback and do a lot of selling/buying will they make an effort- since they want to keep you. LMK when it's over and I'll use my Ebay intuition to help you out! __________________ God loves you so much, that he made you read this, just to let you know.

02-17-2010, 05:29 PM	#4
Darrell Guest Posts: n/a	Re: Question for EBay sellers... Scams? You can tell it's a legit payment when you log into PP and see the amount in your balance.

02-17-2010, 05:39 PM	#6
Blueface Gramps 4x's Join Date: Oct 2008 First Name: Horatio Seymore Hiny Location: Boca Raton - North of La Habana Posts: 8,774 Trading: (8)	Re: Question for EBay sellers... Scams? Accept PP only. Once it hits your account, you are in like flint, unless the buyer later disputes the purchase. PP verifies its users so any credit card on file and information provided is checked. Hard to imagine a stolen credit card used for PP. __________________ Little known fact: I am a former member of the Village People - The Indian

02-17-2010, 05:42 PM	#8
newcigarz Smoke and Mirrors Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: On the bottom shelf Posts: 3,139 Trading: (15)	Re: Question for EBay sellers... Scams? I always make sure to specify that I only ship to confirmed addresses. This in itself is not 100 % fool proof, but PP will offer protection if you do. You can also set up buyer restrictions when listing your item, such as buyers rmust have a US based address, not have negative feedback etc.

02-17-2010, 07:43 PM	#10
jsnake Have My Own Room Join Date: Feb 2010 First Name: Jake Location: Your mom's house Posts: 1,309 Trading: (22)	Re: Question for EBay sellers... Scams? Take all the measures listed and also ship only to confirmed addresses. I have had problems twice with jewelery purchases and Poop pal was quick to refund my money. I am done with Ebay though.

02-17-2010, 07:49 PM	#11
Footbag I Need My Space Join Date: Oct 2008 First Name: Adam Location: NEPA Posts: 1,216 Trading: (7)	Re: Question for EBay sellers... Scams? Well... The current high bidder has 0 feedback. I hope I don't have to re-list it or get bad feedback somehow.

02-17-2010, 08:30 PM	#12
Footbag I Need My Space Join Date: Oct 2008 First Name: Adam Location: NEPA Posts: 1,216 Trading: (7)	Re: Question for EBay sellers... Scams? Whew... Sold for $178.50 and the buyer looks legit. 67 buys with 100% feedback. Now I'm just hoping the payment comes.

02-17-2010, 08:33 PM	#13
hotreds Ephesians 2:8 Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: 5 miles past "Resume Speed" Posts: 11,665 Trading: (63)	Re: Question for EBay sellers... Scams? Good to hear! I know I always cringed when I had a winner with 0 or 1 feedback! Lotsa luck to ya! __________________ God loves you so much, that he made you read this, just to let you know.

02-18-2010, 07:38 AM	#14
Blueface Gramps 4x's Join Date: Oct 2008 First Name: Horatio Seymore Hiny Location: Boca Raton - North of La Habana Posts: 8,774 Trading: (8)	Re: Question for EBay sellers... Scams? Looks like this will work out for you. I remember the scammer that once tried to nail my son. Good thing I got involved. He listed a trailer I gave him from when I had the business that he later took over. The trailer was worth around $1,200 brand new. Used as it was, $500 would be a deal for him to get. The purchaser had a "0" rating. He bought it for $800. He offered my son to pay him "Extra" so my son could then deposit the remainder for him. (Get where this is going so far?) He sends a check to my son, to my address as he lived with me at the time. That is where I go involved. I opened the envelope thinking it was for me since we have the same name. There was a check inside and it was for around $1,800 if I recall correctly. I asked my son about it and he filled me in. I noted the name difference on the check to the buyer. I looked up the name on the check and located a number for this "Dr." on the check. Turns out his checks were all stolen via a scam and this check was bogus and long cancelled. So, my foolish son would have deposited the useless check, paid the seller the difference into his account, the trailer would have stayed in the garage, the check would have bounced, and he would have been out $1,000. Things like that happen, you just have to be wiser than the thieves are. In this case, we were. Son learned a valuable lesson. Information on buyer turned over to the authorities. __________________ Little known fact: I am a former member of the Village People - The Indian

02-18-2010, 07:45 AM	#15
elderboy02 Lets Go Buckeyes! Join Date: Oct 2008 First Name: Dan Location: Cincinnati, OH Posts: 12,509 Trading: (133)	Re: Question for EBay sellers... Scams? Whenever I get a P-pal payment, I immediately withdraw it to my bank account.

02-18-2010, 08:30 AM	#20
Kreth Ronin smoker Join Date: Jan 2009 First Name: Jeff Location: Oneonta, NY Posts: 3,620 Trading: (14)	Re: Question for EBay sellers... Scams? A lot of guys on a golf forum I frequent are really unhappy with Ebay's more recent focus on buyer protection. Basically, a buyer can do no wrong, except in extreme circumstances. Lots of stories about buyers leaving bad feedback because the seller dared to send a message inquiring about slow payment, things like that. Posted via Mobile Device