Watch out for Third-hand Smoke

Sauer Grapes · 02-09-2010, 11:12 AM

http://health.yahoo.com/news/afp/hea...209102313.html

This is getting ridiculous.

02-09-2010, 11:18 AM

Just watch out for fourth hand smoke.

SmokeyJoe · 02-09-2010, 11:22 AM

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Originally Posted by silentjon

Just watch out for fourth hand smoke.

Guess they will have to put me on "Double Secret Probation."

Wow...

csbrewfisher · 02-09-2010, 11:18 AM

Saw this. What crap.

akumushi · 02-09-2010, 11:24 AM

If you have a young baby at home, this actually does matter, so it's advisable to change your clothes and wash up after a smoke before being around the baby. There's also been studies linking this kind of third hand exposure to SIDS. Beyond that, I agree that people are going to far. I don't think an adult should worry about that little of a residue. I'm sure filling up your tank at the gas station exposes you to more carcinogens than this.

Don Fernando · 02-09-2010, 12:32 PM

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Originally Posted by akumushi

If you have a young baby at home, this actually does matter, so it's advisable to change your clothes and wash up after a smoke before being around the baby.

or you could make the baby smoke, so it doesn't matter anymore

jaymz · 02-25-2010, 01:41 PM

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Originally Posted by Don Fernando

or you could make the baby smoke, so it doesn't matter anymore

Be careful the pictures you post
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/arti...-Facebook.html

replicant_argent · 02-09-2010, 12:49 PM

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Originally Posted by akumushi

If you have a young baby at home, this actually does matter, so it's advisable to change your clothes and wash up after a smoke before being around the baby. There's also been studies linking this kind of third hand exposure to SIDS. Beyond that, I agree that people are going to far. I don't think an adult should worry about that little of a residue. I'm sure filling up your tank at the gas station exposes you to more carcinogens than this.

I would love to see the source on those studies. My guess is that they might be a tad biased. There have been studies linking a lot of things to a lot of other things that have been nothing but Horse Hockey too. At what concentration levels are they talking, and for how long, and what kind of exposure? I suppose that the highly popular "Toddlers licking ashtrays" sport will now be banned too.

I wash my hands before I have interaction with people other than BOTL after a smoke not for health reasons, but because it's a little stinky, and I have respect for those around me when I am not excercising my right to smoke.

akumushi · 02-09-2010, 01:06 PM

Here's one article:

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Originally Posted by replicant_argent

I would love to see the source on those studies. My guess is that they might be a tad biased. There have been studies linking a lot of things to a lot of other things that have been nothing but Horse Hockey too. At what concentration levels are they talking, and for how long, and what kind of exposure? I suppose that the highly popular "Toddlers licking ashtrays" sport will now be banned too.

I wash my hands before I have interaction with people other than BOTL after a smoke not for health reasons, but because it's a little stinky, and I have respect for those around me when I am not excercising my right to smoke.

I've heard it from several friends, and had it pounded into me by my wife, who is a research scientist for a pharmaceutical company and who doesn't take a study seriously unless it was published in a respected medical journal. Not that people don't demonize smokers, but there is really no escaping that it is harmful to infants.

hotreds · 02-09-2010, 01:08 PM

And to think I happily played with hair pins and electrical outlets as a child!

02-09-2010, 11:38 AM

Soon it will be an entire octopus of smoke and no one will be safe. It is ridiculous how much people worry about it, but saying that I do agree if you have a newborn it is probably better to err on the side of ridiculousness.

02-09-2010, 12:12 PM

This is a little much. I do hit the showers between a cigar and holding my little girl because she is only five months old, but otherwise... this just seems over the top.

02-09-2010, 12:14 PM

I'm suing my neighbor because he smokes on his porch 600 feet away from my deck, where wind has caused us second hand exposure. I blame my low intelligence, general ignorance, and boneheadedness on this exposure.

T.G · 02-09-2010, 12:20 PM

Applecare warranty service department: 1
Smokers: 0

Tripp · 02-09-2010, 12:26 PM

I don't care how many hands it has, its not going to kill me any faster than my cell phone, TV, radio, car exhaust, computer, fluorescent lights, animals, politicians, meteors, global warming, terrorists, the large hadron collider, drug cartels..............

bazookajoe · 02-09-2010, 12:37 PM

I think everyone would agree that we want to protect our kids from any chemical exposure, but we do that anyway - it's just common sense. If the media is so interested in reporting danger, maybe they should take a look at the chemicals in bug sprays, paint, cleaning products, carpets and rugs, food containers, soaps and detergents etc. that are routinely used around kids. But then, that wouldn't be as popular as demonizing smokers...

aich75013 · 02-09-2010, 01:52 PM

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Originally Posted by bazookajoe

I think everyone would agree that we want to protect our kids from any chemical exposure, but we do that anyway - it's just common sense.

Although I do agree, apparently not everyone has common sense.

I was driving and pulled up to a car at a stop light. I looked over and a young mother was smoking in her car with the windows rolled up. She had her infant in the car seat in the back. I couldn't believe my eyes.

icantbejon · 02-09-2010, 03:15 PM

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Originally Posted by aich75013

Although I do agree, apparently not everyone has common sense.

I was driving and pulled up to a car at a stop light. I looked over and a young mother was smoking in her car with the windows rolled up. She had her infant in the car seat in the back. I couldn't believe my eyes.

I remember a few years back, my brother and I walked by a car in the parking lot of a restaurant. This was in NY just following the smoking ban. A woman had just put her two children, one toddler and one infant, into the car. Her windows were all up. She lit a cigarette and climbed on in. On her bumper was a sticker reading, "At least I can still smoke in my car!"

I was blown away. Some parents really don't give a damn. I don't smoke around my kid, except a few rare times when I'm outside and my wife brings her out to play. Then I try hard to stay away from her. I also don't smoke in my car, cause I don't enjoy the smell honestly. I'd have to say I agree with the majority on this. We all get that smoking isn't the healthiest living choice...however it's our choice.

MedicCook · 02-09-2010, 12:39 PM

When is the study going to be made that watching someone smoke on tv is going to give you cancer?

akumushi · 02-09-2010, 01:13 PM

Sorry, that link was second hand smoke, here is a reference to the study about third hand smoke.
These studies are generally sponsered by anti-smoking groups, but they are done by impartial scientists with impartial science, so I wouldn't question the results just because the funding came from some a-holes that want to ban tobacco. It's not a question of whether or not smoking is a filthy habit, it's a question of whether or not we want the governent regulating our filthy habits

02-09-2010, 11:12 AM	#1
Sauer Grapes Snatchin' yo people up Join Date: Oct 2008 Posts: 2,235 Trading: (44)	Watch out for Third-hand Smoke http://health.yahoo.com/news/afp/hea...209102313.html This is getting ridiculous.

02-09-2010, 11:18 AM	#2
silentjon Guest Posts: n/a	Re: Watch out for Third-hand Smoke Just watch out for fourth hand smoke.

02-09-2010, 11:18 AM	#4
csbrewfisher Welcome to my nightmare Join Date: Oct 2008 First Name: Jerry Location: Colorado Springs Posts: 676 Trading: (10)	Re: Watch out for Third-hand Smoke Saw this. What crap. __________________ http://www.facebook.com/csbrewfisher

02-09-2010, 11:24 AM	#5
akumushi Habanos Apologist Join Date: May 2009 Posts: 1,298 Trading: (11)	Re: Watch out for Third-hand Smoke If you have a young baby at home, this actually does matter, so it's advisable to change your clothes and wash up after a smoke before being around the baby. There's also been studies linking this kind of third hand exposure to SIDS. Beyond that, I agree that people are going to far. I don't think an adult should worry about that little of a residue. I'm sure filling up your tank at the gas station exposes you to more carcinogens than this. __________________ "Eventually, however, every ash must drop. And the drop usually is as sudden as it is final."

02-09-2010, 01:08 PM	#10
hotreds Ephesians 2:8 Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: 5 miles past "Resume Speed" Posts: 11,665 Trading: (63)	Re: Watch out for Third-hand Smoke And to think I happily played with hair pins and electrical outlets as a child! __________________ God loves you so much, that he made you read this, just to let you know.

02-09-2010, 11:38 AM	#11
Aldebaran Guest Posts: n/a	Re: Watch out for Third-hand Smoke Soon it will be an entire octopus of smoke and no one will be safe. It is ridiculous how much people worry about it, but saying that I do agree if you have a newborn it is probably better to err on the side of ridiculousness.

02-09-2010, 12:12 PM	#12
feathersforever Guest Posts: n/a	Re: Watch out for Third-hand Smoke This is a little much. I do hit the showers between a cigar and holding my little girl because she is only five months old, but otherwise... this just seems over the top.

02-09-2010, 12:14 PM	#13
TrickNick Guest Posts: n/a	Re: Watch out for Third-hand Smoke I'm suing my neighbor because he smokes on his porch 600 feet away from my deck, where wind has caused us second hand exposure. I blame my low intelligence, general ignorance, and boneheadedness on this exposure.

02-09-2010, 12:20 PM	#14
T.G Grrrrrr Join Date: Mar 2009 First Name: The Other Adam Posts: 15,557 Trading: (37)	Re: Watch out for Third-hand Smoke Applecare warranty service department: 1 Smokers: 0

02-09-2010, 12:26 PM	#15
Tripp Pepin Ho of the NorthWest Join Date: Oct 2008 First Name: Tripp Location: Portland, OR Posts: 487 Trading: (5)	Re: Watch out for Third-hand Smoke I don't care how many hands it has, its not going to kill me any faster than my cell phone, TV, radio, car exhaust, computer, fluorescent lights, animals, politicians, meteors, global warming, terrorists, the large hadron collider, drug cartels.............. __________________ Make sure you visit the chat! Newcomers welcome. Pete_Johnson: Tripp get the ** out of here with that bull** Benchmade. C'mon Son!

02-09-2010, 12:37 PM	#16
bazookajoe ... Join Date: Oct 2008 First Name: david Location: SoCal Posts: 639 Trading: (72)	Re: Watch out for Third-hand Smoke I think everyone would agree that we want to protect our kids from any chemical exposure, but we do that anyway - it's just common sense. If the media is so interested in reporting danger, maybe they should take a look at the chemicals in bug sprays, paint, cleaning products, carpets and rugs, food containers, soaps and detergents etc. that are routinely used around kids. But then, that wouldn't be as popular as demonizing smokers...

02-09-2010, 12:39 PM	#19
MedicCook Mila smoked my cigar Join Date: Jan 2009 First Name: Ryan Location: Schaghticoke, NY Posts: 10,946 Trading: (7)	Re: Watch out for Third-hand Smoke When is the study going to be made that watching someone smoke on tv is going to give you cancer? __________________ 27 World Series Championship's "If your wife doesn't like the aroma of your cigar, change your wife.", Zino Davidoff

02-09-2010, 01:13 PM	#20
akumushi Habanos Apologist Join Date: May 2009 Posts: 1,298 Trading: (11)	Re: Watch out for Third-hand Smoke Sorry, that link was second hand smoke, here is a reference to the study about third hand smoke. These studies are generally sponsered by anti-smoking groups, but they are done by impartial scientists with impartial science, so I wouldn't question the results just because the funding came from some a-holes that want to ban tobacco. It's not a question of whether or not smoking is a filthy habit, it's a question of whether or not we want the governent regulating our filthy habits __________________ "Eventually, however, every ash must drop. And the drop usually is as sudden as it is final."