If defense wins championships....

OLS · 01-13-2010, 10:52 AM

does that mean that the Saints don't have a prayer? As a lifelong fan of the Black and Gold, I am not
comfortable in saying this, but I think that's exactly what it means. Injuries have plagued the Saints'
steadily improving defense all year, and the inability to stop the run at the line means that the pressure
is all on the severely banged up secondary.

Now, even with all that said, the Saints' secondary is made up of some pretty smart cookies
and some pretty good rookies. Not rookies per se', but newbies anyway. (Usama Young in particular)
This whole run needed to have started when Charles Grant and Will Smith were younger studs.
They are still good enough to play, but man they are old. I just can't see a way they get to
even the Super Bowl. But if they do, this Mardi Gras is going to be the best ever. Can't wait! WHO DAT!

chachee52 · 01-13-2010, 11:41 AM

I'd love to see the Saints go to the SuperBowl. I can honestly say that N.O. needs to play like they did at the beginning of the year. The last few weeks they really did seem to fall completely apart (being a Pats fan I can say that I feel your pain).
Don't think that it's all Defense though. Look at the Colts a few years ago. They have NEVER had defense!!
Right now though, the Chargers look like the all around team and if they can keep it up they will go all the way.
Saints vs Chargers? Would like to see it!!

pnoon · 01-13-2010, 11:43 AM

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Originally Posted by chachee52

I'd love to see the Saints go to the SuperBowl. I can honestly say that N.O. needs to play like they did at the beginning of the year. The last few weeks they really did seem to fall completely apart (being a Pats fan I can say that I feel your pain).
Don't think that it's all Defense though. Look at the Colts a few years ago. They have NEVER had defense!!
Right now though, the Chargers look like the all around team and if they can keep it up they will go all the way.
Saints vs Chargers? Would like to see it!!

Yeah!. That's the ticket!

01-13-2010, 11:49 AM

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Originally Posted by pnoon

Yeah!. That's the ticket!

Not this year my follically challenged friend

pnoon · 01-13-2010, 11:51 AM

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Originally Posted by Resipsa

Not this year my follically challenged friend

You know, if the Colts happen to play the Chargers in the playoffs this year, I'm gonna have to take some more of your cigars.

01-13-2010, 11:53 AM

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Originally Posted by pnoon

You know, if the Colts happen to play the Chargers in the playoffs this year, I'm gonna have to take some more of your cigars.

Got some
JP's ageing just for you,

01-13-2010, 11:46 AM

Defense wins championships is a myth, especially nowdays. Would make for a great mythbusters episode though

Blueface · 01-13-2010, 11:58 AM

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Originally Posted by Resipsa

Defense wins championships is a myth, especially nowdays. Would make for a great mythbusters episode though

I don't know Vic.
I am still a firm believer defense does in fact win games.
You can have the most explosive offense in the world but if you can't score, well..............you don't win. Furthermore, if as result of your defense, you do score, either by way of a defensive score or by way of great field position............well what a great feather on that cap.

01-13-2010, 12:28 PM

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Originally Posted by Blueface

I don't know Vic.
I am still a firm believer defense does in fact win games.
You can have the most explosive offense in the world but if you can't score, well..............you don't win. Furthermore, if as result of your defense, you do score, either by way of a defensive score or by way of great field position............well what a great feather on that cap.

NFL network has a show on the biggest myths in football, defense wins championships is 3 on the list. Catch it when you can.

Your post kind of proves the point that it's a myth, eg something people just "believe" even though it's not true, sorry CRlos

Blueface · 01-13-2010, 01:03 PM

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Originally Posted by Resipsa

NFL network has a show on the biggest myths in football, defense wins championships is 3 on the list. Catch it when you can.

Your post kind of proves the point that it's a myth, eg something people just "believe" even though it's not true, sorry CRlos

Will look for it but boy does that myth resonate with me with many teams I recall in my lifetime.

Let's see.......Steelers, Giants ('86 and '91 teams), Ravens, Bears, just to mention a few. It was their dominant defense that solidified their wins.

white_s2k · 01-13-2010, 12:46 PM

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Originally Posted by chachee52

I
Saints vs Chargers? Would like to see it!!

Cowboys vs. Chargers

I think teams can be successful without a good defense, but in spurts. It becomes very hard to win 3-4 games in a row, in the playoffs, against the top teams in the NFL with only your offense. Because if the offense comes out and has one bad game, it's over.

pnoon · 01-13-2010, 12:52 PM

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Originally Posted by white_s2k

Cowboys vs. Chargers

I think teams can be successful without a good defense, but in spurts. It becomes very hard to win 3-4 games in a row, in the playoffs, against the top teams in the NFL with only your offense. Because if the offense comes out and has one bad game, it's over.

It becomes very hard to win 3-4 games in a row, in the playoffs, against the top teams in the NFL with only your defense. Because if the defense comes out and has one bad game, it's over.

OLS · 01-14-2010, 09:26 AM

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Originally Posted by pnoon

Because if the defense comes out and has one bad game, it's over.

Nutshell Time!

acruce · 01-14-2010, 08:57 PM

Cowboys vs. Chargers

OLS · 01-15-2010, 05:43 PM

Saints versus Ravens

Starscream · 01-15-2010, 09:29 PM

I don't think that the Saints will make it past this week. They've lost three in a row at the end of the season. They're vulnerable and everyone knows their weaknesses. Unless they change their gameplan in the last two weeks, then there is no chance of them making it to the SB.

My pick:

Vikings/Colts in the Superbowl

Colts are the new Champions.

white_s2k · 01-16-2010, 03:36 PM

Wow, Saints offense better be 100% today because their defense just gave up a TD 19 seconds into the game.

white_s2k · 01-16-2010, 04:04 PM

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Originally Posted by white_s2k

Wow, Saints offense better be 100% today because their defense just gave up a TD 19 seconds into the game.

I say that, then the NO defense cause a turnover and is leading 14-7

chachee52 · 01-16-2010, 05:37 PM

I'd say that the Saints Deffense has shown up to play today!! Either that or AR offense didn't show up to play. Either way, Cards look ugly!!!!

Starscream · 01-16-2010, 05:44 PM

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Originally Posted by chachee52

I'd say that the Saints Deffense has shown up to play today!! Either that or AR offense didn't show up to play. Either way, Cards look ugly!!!!

I think that the Cards offense didn't show up...

01-13-2010, 10:52 AM	#1
OLS Suck It Join Date: Oct 2008 First Name: Brad Location: TN Posts: 7,912 Trading: (19)	If defense wins championships.... does that mean that the Saints don't have a prayer? As a lifelong fan of the Black and Gold, I am not comfortable in saying this, but I think that's exactly what it means. Injuries have plagued the Saints' steadily improving defense all year, and the inability to stop the run at the line means that the pressure is all on the severely banged up secondary. Now, even with all that said, the Saints' secondary is made up of some pretty smart cookies and some pretty good rookies. Not rookies per se', but newbies anyway. (Usama Young in particular) This whole run needed to have started when Charles Grant and Will Smith were younger studs. They are still good enough to play, but man they are old. I just can't see a way they get to even the Super Bowl. But if they do, this Mardi Gras is going to be the best ever. Can't wait! WHO DAT!

01-13-2010, 11:41 AM	#2
chachee52 Adjusting to the Life Join Date: Dec 2009 First Name: Todd Location: Tyngsboro, MA Posts: 399 Trading: (2)	Re: If defense wins championships.... I'd love to see the Saints go to the SuperBowl. I can honestly say that N.O. needs to play like they did at the beginning of the year. The last few weeks they really did seem to fall completely apart (being a Pats fan I can say that I feel your pain). Don't think that it's all Defense though. Look at the Colts a few years ago. They have NEVER had defense!! Right now though, the Chargers look like the all around team and if they can keep it up they will go all the way. Saints vs Chargers? Would like to see it!! __________________

01-13-2010, 11:46 AM	#7
Resipsa Guest Posts: n/a	Re: If defense wins championships.... Defense wins championships is a myth, especially nowdays. Would make for a great mythbusters episode though

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acruce Just killing Time Join Date: Oct 2008 First Name: Andy Location: Venus TX Posts: 1,114 Trading: (1)	Re: If defense wins championships.... Cowboys vs. Chargers __________________ LIVE LIFE TO THE FULLEST~SMOKE AS MANY FINE CIGARS AS POSSIBLE ~ SMILE ~ IT MAKES YOU FEEL GOOD!!

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OLS Suck It Join Date: Oct 2008 First Name: Brad Location: TN Posts: 7,912 Trading: (19)	Re: If defense wins championships.... Saints versus Ravens

01-15-2010, 09:29 PM	#16
Starscream Knowhutimean, Vern? Join Date: Oct 2008 First Name: Andy Location: In a little town somewhere in the USA Posts: 10,237 Trading: (4)	Re: If defense wins championships.... I don't think that the Saints will make it past this week. They've lost three in a row at the end of the season. They're vulnerable and everyone knows their weaknesses. Unless they change their gameplan in the last two weeks, then there is no chance of them making it to the SB. My pick: Vikings/Colts in the Superbowl Colts are the new Champions. __________________ Insert quote here.

01-16-2010, 03:36 PM	#17
white_s2k The Dude Abides Join Date: Oct 2008 First Name: Josh Location: Dallas, TX Posts: 1,052 Trading: (20)	Re: If defense wins championships.... Wow, Saints offense better be 100% today because their defense just gave up a TD 19 seconds into the game. __________________ "An armed society is a polite society. Manners are good when one may have to back up his acts with his life." – Robert A. Heinlein

01-16-2010, 05:37 PM	#19
chachee52 Adjusting to the Life Join Date: Dec 2009 First Name: Todd Location: Tyngsboro, MA Posts: 399 Trading: (2)	Re: If defense wins championships.... I'd say that the Saints Deffense has shown up to play today!! Either that or AR offense didn't show up to play. Either way, Cards look ugly!!!! __________________