Sun-Grown Simplicity

Doctorossi · 12-10-2009, 07:31 PM

In my experience with "Sun-Grown"-identified wrappers, I have found them to uniformly suggest a subtlety-levelling dominance of the flavors in the cigars they adorn. I have smoked blends that show great complexity with other wrappers and found none of it in the "Sun-Grown" variations. This despite my general preference for larger RG- the stuff I've smoked should, in theory, display the least wrapper-flavor impact. To date, I have yet to encounter a "Sun-Grown"-wrapped stick that I would describe as complex of flavor. This is not necessarily a problem, mind you... but it does leave me very curious. Do they exist? Can they exist? Can anyone point me to any?

s15driftking · 12-10-2009, 08:14 PM

I have encountered only a few sungrown wrapper cigars and have noticed that they have a very robust flavor although the cigar itself is not a full bodied smoke. That i think brings up the subject of body strength versus flavor strength. I have not experiences a very complex flavored sungrown cigar maybe because the sungrown wrapper is so prevalent to notice any complexities in the binder/filler of the cigar. I wish i could point you in a worthy direction but i will abstain because I am not the person to make that call.

JJG · 12-10-2009, 08:35 PM

The only one I've had in recent memory was an Ashton VSG. I was hoping it would taste more like a high-end Fuente but I remember it being a little on the boring side. I have no idea if the blandness was related to the wrapper though.

Eleven · 12-10-2009, 08:38 PM

Rocky Patel Sungrown Petit Corona is one of my favs.

Doctorossi · 12-10-2009, 09:26 PM

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Originally Posted by Eleven

Rocky Patel Sungrown Petit Corona is one of my favs.

I tried a Rocky Patel Sungrown Torpedo. It was maybe one of the more complex sun-growns I've had, but still nowhere near complex. Have you had the Torpedo size?

duckmanco · 12-11-2009, 09:46 AM

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Originally Posted by Eleven

Rocky Patel Sungrown Petit Corona is one of my favs.

Best of that blend, desert island smoke for me. Super rich smoke with just the right amount of everything.

12-11-2009, 06:18 AM

I do really like the RP Sungrown (one of his best), but the VSG is complex through and through. A new player that you might want to try is the new San Cristobal "Selecion Del Sol" by DPG

Starchild · 12-11-2009, 06:55 AM

I've been favoring sun growns lately. I know that tastes vary, but I find the Oliva V to be quite complex. I had my first VSG recently, and was a bit underwhelmed. I also like the Taboo HSG and RP, but I wouldn't describe either as very complex.

I can't think of many where the same blend is available in sun grown and other wrapers.

Dunkel · 12-11-2009, 07:06 AM

It's good to see that I'm not the only one who thought the Ashton VSG was kinda boring. For the money and hype it should have been amazing but wasn't. Most every sun grown wrapped cigar i've smoked has been pretty bold, which I like but not very complex. I haven't tried a RP Sun Grown but it's on my list of "must try" cigars.

12-11-2009, 08:45 AM

The only size of RP Sun Grown that I have had is a robusto size and it was very tasty.

12-10-2009, 07:31 PM	#1
Doctorossi Have My Own Room Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: Burlington, VT Posts: 1,684 Trading: (8)	Sun-Grown Simplicity In my experience with "Sun-Grown"-identified wrappers, I have found them to uniformly suggest a subtlety-levelling dominance of the flavors in the cigars they adorn. I have smoked blends that show great complexity with other wrappers and found none of it in the "Sun-Grown" variations. This despite my general preference for larger RG- the stuff I've smoked should, in theory, display the least wrapper-flavor impact. To date, I have yet to encounter a "Sun-Grown"-wrapped stick that I would describe as complex of flavor. This is not necessarily a problem, mind you... but it does leave me very curious. Do they exist? Can they exist? Can anyone point me to any? __________________ Marvin Shanken is a terrific guy... for me to poop on!

12-10-2009, 08:14 PM	#2
s15driftking Go Browns! Join Date: Nov 2008 First Name: Bobby Location: Columbus Ohio Posts: 2,763 Trading: (16)	Re: Sun-Grown Simplicity I have encountered only a few sungrown wrapper cigars and have noticed that they have a very robust flavor although the cigar itself is not a full bodied smoke. That i think brings up the subject of body strength versus flavor strength. I have not experiences a very complex flavored sungrown cigar maybe because the sungrown wrapper is so prevalent to notice any complexities in the binder/filler of the cigar. I wish i could point you in a worthy direction but i will abstain because I am not the person to make that call. __________________ diamonds/guns

12-10-2009, 08:35 PM	#3
JJG Have My Own Room Join Date: Jan 2009 First Name: Jeff Location: Houston Posts: 1,260 Trading: (4)	Re: Sun-Grown Simplicity The only one I've had in recent memory was an Ashton VSG. I was hoping it would taste more like a high-end Fuente but I remember it being a little on the boring side. I have no idea if the blandness was related to the wrapper though.

12-10-2009, 08:38 PM	#4
Eleven Solid As The Sun Join Date: Aug 2009 First Name: Scott Location: SW Ohio Posts: 1,859 Trading: (23)	Re: Sun-Grown Simplicity Rocky Patel Sungrown Petit Corona is one of my favs. __________________ CA: putting the 'man' in bromance since 2008! --markem.

12-11-2009, 06:18 AM	#7
DougBushBC Guest Posts: n/a	Re: Sun-Grown Simplicity I do really like the RP Sungrown (one of his best), but the VSG is complex through and through. A new player that you might want to try is the new San Cristobal "Selecion Del Sol" by DPG

12-11-2009, 06:55 AM	#8
Starchild SERENITY NOW! Join Date: Oct 2008 First Name: Andre Location: Fernandina Beach, Fl Posts: 553 Trading: (11)	Re: Sun-Grown Simplicity I've been favoring sun growns lately. I know that tastes vary, but I find the Oliva V to be quite complex. I had my first VSG recently, and was a bit underwhelmed. I also like the Taboo HSG and RP, but I wouldn't describe either as very complex. I can't think of many where the same blend is available in sun grown and other wrapers. __________________ Everywhere is walking distance if you have the time - Steven Wright

12-11-2009, 07:06 AM	#9
Dunkel Maduro & Oscuro Whore-O Join Date: Jun 2009 First Name: Doug Location: West by God Virginia Posts: 2,232 Trading: (75)	Re: Sun-Grown Simplicity It's good to see that I'm not the only one who thought the Ashton VSG was kinda boring. For the money and hype it should have been amazing but wasn't. Most every sun grown wrapped cigar i've smoked has been pretty bold, which I like but not very complex. I haven't tried a RP Sun Grown but it's on my list of "must try" cigars. __________________ Blue Label,Any Filipe Gregorio,Acid,Don Elias,El Mejor Espresso,Tierra del Sol

12-11-2009, 08:45 AM	#10
CigarGuy Guest Posts: n/a	Re: Sun-Grown Simplicity The only size of RP Sun Grown that I have had is a robusto size and it was very tasty.