L'Esprit de la Verite

jerseystepup · 11-06-2009, 10:00 AM

anyone smoke one of these yet? supposed to be pete johnsons 2010 release.

Beagleone · 11-06-2009, 10:24 AM

YUP!!!

jerseystepup · 11-06-2009, 10:33 AM

thoughts?? haha

11-06-2009, 10:36 AM

The "La Verite" is the uber-premium release, on par in price and (supposedly) quality with the Padron 40/80/45th.

The "L'Espirit de Verite" is a cheaper version of the stick using tobacco from the same crop (I think the cheapest one will still be like $12, though).

Pete's idea with these is that they will be a true vintage cigar (like wine)--meaning each year cigars will be released from the tobacco cultivated that previous year (same farm). So each version/year of the Verite will be a bit different, in theory (just like wine). Since the tobacco is so young, they should improve a lot with age as well.

11-06-2009, 10:56 AM

I tried it.. twice.. and liked it.... a lot.

11-06-2009, 11:14 AM

pete gave me a "l'espirit" that i smoked about 8 months ago. a little ammoniated in its youth but still awesome. i think this cigar is meant for mid-term aging.

stearns · 11-06-2009, 11:18 AM

just have one of the l'esprit from nhc, looks so delicious but i dont plan on smoking it any time soon

stearns

jerseystepup · 11-06-2009, 11:48 AM

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Originally Posted by stearns

just have one of the l'esprit from nhc, looks so delicious but i dont plan on smoking it any time soon

stearns

is that the one with "2008" on the label?

stearns · 11-06-2009, 11:49 AM

yessir

stearns

srduggins · 11-06-2009, 11:56 AM

Pete handed me one several weeks ago, which I smoked a couple days later. He stated that it was pre-production and the tobacco for it was pulled about 2 months before it finished fermenting and had a "green tobacco" flavor.

Near-perfect construction, draw and burn. It had a sweet flavor (maple syrup) to it that I don't normally associate with cigars. Reminded me of a wine they stop fermentation on to leave a little bit of residual sugar in it. I must say, I really enjoyed that unique flavor, but ultimately the cigar came across as simple. It kept trying to change flavors throughout the cigar gaining some wood here, a touch of earth there, a nice bit of leather, but quickly returned to that sweet flavor over everything else. I thought the final third was going to go into the full-bodied range, but that was short-lived too. It shows some nice potential, but I don't think the proto-type will improve with age. Worth trying if you can get one, but wait for the final version for any serious aging.

11-07-2009, 06:51 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by srduggins

Pete handed me one several weeks ago, which I smoked a couple days later. He stated that it was pre-production and the tobacco for it was pulled about 2 months before it finished fermenting and had a "green tobacco" flavor.

Near-perfect construction, draw and burn. It had a sweet flavor (maple syrup) to it that I don't normally associate with cigars. Reminded me of a wine they stop fermentation on to leave a little bit of residual sugar in it. I must say, I really enjoyed that unique flavor, but ultimately the cigar came across as simple. It kept trying to change flavors throughout the cigar gaining some wood here, a touch of earth there, a nice bit of leather, but quickly returned to that sweet flavor over everything else. I thought the final third was going to go into the full-bodied range, but that was short-lived too. It shows some nice potential, but I don't think the proto-type will improve with age. Worth trying if you can get one, but wait for the final version for any serious aging.

are you equating ammonia with residual sugar?

warpedcigars · 11-06-2009, 01:33 PM

Smoked about 7 of them now from May 09 till now. They have gotten progressively better each time I tried one. They are a very unique and special cigar.

stearns · 11-06-2009, 02:40 PM

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Originally Posted by warpedcigars

Smoked about 7 of them now from May 09 till now. They have gotten progressively better each time I tried one. They are a very unique and special cigar.

7? jeez, hook me up with your source

stearns

warpedcigars · 11-06-2009, 03:09 PM

The man behind them, haha.

11-07-2009, 06:48 PM

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Originally Posted by warpedcigars

The man behind them, haha.

you've got the "ins"!

Beagleone · 11-06-2009, 04:51 PM

IMHO, these are really good and should be interesting to see the scramble when Pete actually releases them. The few I have had the pleasure to smoke have been quite good and very pleasurable. I believe he stated that they are already rolled and in wheels of 50, resting for when they are ready for release. Not wanting to spoil and just inhale the smoke, all have taken me more than 90 minutes to smoke and each were nubbed till the very end. Clean tasting, very complex and full of flavors. I believe they each changed profiles at least 4 times.

warpedcigars · 11-06-2009, 04:56 PM

They are stored in wheels as well as master cases. Pics were floating around awhile ago. Ill see if I can find them.

11-06-2009, 10:00 AM	#1
jerseystepup L-I-V-I-N Join Date: Jun 2009 First Name: Randy Location: New Jersey Posts: 774 Trading: (9)	L'Esprit de la Verite anyone smoke one of these yet? supposed to be pete johnsons 2010 release.

11-06-2009, 10:24 AM	#2
Beagleone Feeling at Home Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: Between here and there Posts: 832 Trading: (18)	Re: L'Esprit de la Verite YUP!!! __________________ Whoever said "laughter is the best medicine" didn't have gonorrhea.

11-06-2009, 10:33 AM	#3
jerseystepup L-I-V-I-N Join Date: Jun 2009 First Name: Randy Location: New Jersey Posts: 774 Trading: (9)	Re: L'Esprit de la Verite thoughts?? haha

11-06-2009, 10:36 AM	#4
njstone Guest Posts: n/a	Re: L'Esprit de la Verite The "La Verite" is the uber-premium release, on par in price and (supposedly) quality with the Padron 40/80/45th. The "L'Espirit de Verite" is a cheaper version of the stick using tobacco from the same crop (I think the cheapest one will still be like $12, though). Pete's idea with these is that they will be a true vintage cigar (like wine)--meaning each year cigars will be released from the tobacco cultivated that previous year (same farm). So each version/year of the Verite will be a bit different, in theory (just like wine). Since the tobacco is so young, they should improve a lot with age as well.

11-06-2009, 10:56 AM	#5
xddco Guest Posts: n/a	Re: L'Esprit de la Verite I tried it.. twice.. and liked it.... a lot.

11-06-2009, 11:14 AM	#6
Robert Mabona Guest Posts: n/a	Re: L'Esprit de la Verite pete gave me a "l'espirit" that i smoked about 8 months ago. a little ammoniated in its youth but still awesome. i think this cigar is meant for mid-term aging.

11-06-2009, 11:18 AM	#7
stearns Dogbert Consultant Join Date: Oct 2008 First Name: Ben Location: Park Hill Posts: 5,391 Trading: (50)	Re: L'Esprit de la Verite just have one of the l'esprit from nhc, looks so delicious but i dont plan on smoking it any time soon stearns __________________ "Ignoring all the racket of conventional reality" - Keller Williams

11-06-2009, 11:49 AM	#9
stearns Dogbert Consultant Join Date: Oct 2008 First Name: Ben Location: Park Hill Posts: 5,391 Trading: (50)	Re: L'Esprit de la Verite yessir stearns __________________ "Ignoring all the racket of conventional reality" - Keller Williams

11-06-2009, 11:56 AM	#10
srduggins Feeling at Home Join Date: Apr 2009 First Name: steve Location: So. Cal. No More Posts: 504 Trading: (37)	Re: L'Esprit de la Verite Pete handed me one several weeks ago, which I smoked a couple days later. He stated that it was pre-production and the tobacco for it was pulled about 2 months before it finished fermenting and had a "green tobacco" flavor. Near-perfect construction, draw and burn. It had a sweet flavor (maple syrup) to it that I don't normally associate with cigars. Reminded me of a wine they stop fermentation on to leave a little bit of residual sugar in it. I must say, I really enjoyed that unique flavor, but ultimately the cigar came across as simple. It kept trying to change flavors throughout the cigar gaining some wood here, a touch of earth there, a nice bit of leather, but quickly returned to that sweet flavor over everything else. I thought the final third was going to go into the full-bodied range, but that was short-lived too. It shows some nice potential, but I don't think the proto-type will improve with age. Worth trying if you can get one, but wait for the final version for any serious aging.

11-06-2009, 01:33 PM	#12
warpedcigars Warehouse Smoking Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: South Florida Posts: 449 Trading: (11)	Re: L'Esprit de la Verite Smoked about 7 of them now from May 09 till now. They have gotten progressively better each time I tried one. They are a very unique and special cigar. __________________ www.warpedcigars.com

11-06-2009, 03:09 PM	#14
warpedcigars Warehouse Smoking Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: South Florida Posts: 449 Trading: (11)	Re: L'Esprit de la Verite The man behind them, haha. __________________ www.warpedcigars.com

11-06-2009, 04:51 PM	#16
Beagleone Feeling at Home Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: Between here and there Posts: 832 Trading: (18)	Re: L'Esprit de la Verite IMHO, these are really good and should be interesting to see the scramble when Pete actually releases them. The few I have had the pleasure to smoke have been quite good and very pleasurable. I believe he stated that they are already rolled and in wheels of 50, resting for when they are ready for release. Not wanting to spoil and just inhale the smoke, all have taken me more than 90 minutes to smoke and each were nubbed till the very end. Clean tasting, very complex and full of flavors. I believe they each changed profiles at least 4 times. __________________ Whoever said "laughter is the best medicine" didn't have gonorrhea.

11-06-2009, 04:56 PM	#17
warpedcigars Warehouse Smoking Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: South Florida Posts: 449 Trading: (11)	Re: L'Esprit de la Verite They are stored in wheels as well as master cases. Pics were floating around awhile ago. Ill see if I can find them. __________________ www.warpedcigars.com