toasting vs. drawing while lighting

Ender · 10-23-2008, 03:55 PM

I hear so much talk about slow toasting the foot of the stick as opposed to lighting while you draw. I would love to hear some opinions on this matter. Personally I draw while the heat of the flame is barely close enough to touch the foot. What do yas think?

NCRadioMan · 10-23-2008, 04:00 PM

To each his own. I light it right up while drawing on it. Never found that toasting made a difference.

Scottw · 10-23-2008, 04:04 PM

I light it without drawing if I have my torch handy. I think it is just habit.

zmancbr · 10-23-2008, 04:06 PM

I will toast the foot until it is pretty charred and then take a draw or two to make sure that it is lit and it burning evenly.

So I guess I do both!

Da Klugs · 10-23-2008, 04:08 PM

http://www.cigarasylum.com/vb/showthread.php?t=1906

I was not ready to start working again.

Mugen910 · 10-23-2008, 04:14 PM

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Originally Posted by Da Klugs

http://www.cigarasylum.com/vb/showthread.php?t=1906

I was not ready to start working again.

Da Klugs style is the one I imitate.

10-23-2008, 04:14 PM

I find that toasting it for a few seconds creates an even burn and requires less draw to fully light the smoke. When i draw a lot on an untoasted foot i tend to drool a little bit on the cigar which i try and avoid

Ashcan Bill · 10-23-2008, 06:26 PM

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Originally Posted by Da Klugs

http://www.cigarasylum.com/vb/showthread.php?t=1906

I was not ready to start working again.

I found it interesting that Dave and I not only light them pretty much the same, but smoke them pretty much the same as far as the way we exhale out the old snout. More in the begining, less if strong/tanic, etc.

Tragically we part ways on the cut. I generally punch the little buggers. Sometimes they squeal.

Guitarman-S.T- · 10-23-2008, 08:16 PM

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Originally Posted by Da Klugs

http://www.cigarasylum.com/vb/showthread.php?t=1906

I was not ready to start working again.

haha you the man Klugs

He's one bad Mutha...
SHUT YO MOUTH!
I'm just talking about the Klugs baby
KLUGS.... can ya dig it

brigey57 · 10-23-2008, 08:02 PM

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Originally Posted by zmancbr

I will toast the foot until it is pretty charred and then take a draw or two to make sure that it is lit and it burning evenly.

So I guess I do both!

Ditto.

Volt · 10-23-2008, 06:33 PM

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Originally Posted by NCRadioMan

To each his own. I light it right up while drawing on it. Never found that toasting made a difference.

I don't care for the taste toasting gives the foot. In fact, give me a triple flame on high and stoke that puppy up.

ucubed · 10-23-2008, 06:41 PM

I toast a bit, up to the point that I can see most of the foot is lit, then I begin to draw and light to make sure it is completely lit and lit evenly for that matter

10-23-2008, 06:57 PM

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Originally Posted by Da Klugs

There are probably an infinite number of ways to get a good light. Here is one. I toast the foot.. flame on or a little off of the tobacco. In between I blow on the glowing foot. Take no draws on the cigar during the process. Try to get the entire foot including the wrapper glowing. Usually its 2-3 toast and blow alternations to get a good even burn. After it is achieved wait a few seconds and start taking light draws on the cigar and recheck the evenness of the burn. If necessary torch and blow again.

Starting with light vs heavy draws on the cigar helps prevent an initial run and improves the burn for the entire cigar.

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Originally Posted by ucla695

I toast the foot of the cigar evenly and then light it while drawing.

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Originally Posted by bigloo

After the draw I breath through the cigar to expel any super hot smoke...thats my method at least, each his own.

I'm mostly with Dave [Da Klugs] on this one with slight variation to include Mike's [ucla695] & Lou's? [bigloo] technique. I've got a single flame/torch Xikar combo...the EX [this one: http://www.xikar.com/product_lighter_ex.asp# ] and while I love how it looks and the Xikar warranty, I'm finding it's doing a so-so job at lighting. It could be me but it just takes too long. I'm thinking I might have to go with Volt's below or at least a double torch, although I know I'm not supposed to rush it.

Following Dave's method, I slowly rotate the cigar in my hand, toasting the foot with the flame. But I find that the results are often very uneven lighting. I'll toast and look and blow on the foot to get it glowing and repeat until I've mostly gotten it all glowing. If it's being stubborn or I'm being impatient (usually it's the latter as I, like Golfman, tend to drool in anticipation as I'm lighting.

), I'll torch & draw. When I say the cigar is stubborn, sometimes I've gotten it off to an uneven burn due to inefficient rotating or there's a plug right at the head or whatever, it's just not lighting the way it should be, evenly.

If I feel I've gotten it too hot or the breeze blows and gives me the urge, perhaps I might blow through it like bigloo.

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Originally Posted by Volt

In fact, give me a triple flame on high and stoke that puppy up.

So should I move on from the Xikar EX and get a double torch? If so, which one? I've heard trips (triple torches) take way too much gas....

Rockestone · 10-23-2008, 06:58 PM

Spark it up and draw until the flame is about 2 inches high. Then blow it out.

Ender · 10-23-2008, 09:20 PM

I was wondering about that. I've watched friends toast and wondered "doesn't that just deposit a buch of carbon on the foot that you end up drawing into the cigar?" But then again maybe if you could toast to the point of comubstion then there would be no worry about the build up of carbon.

BlackIrish · 10-23-2008, 07:36 PM

I've lit them pretty much every which way. Lately I've been using the method Klugs describes because I find a get a more even burn (can't seem to get it straight if I draw while lighting) and it burns less hot at the start.

BlackIrish

10-23-2008, 07:40 PM

Does anyone else use a propane torch and flame it 'till it's going, then smoke away?
That's how I do it when I'm in my garage.
Otherwise I toast a bit then light while drawing.

duckmanco · 10-23-2008, 07:43 PM

I used to be a toast the foot all the way guy, but lately its been lightly toast, and then draw using the flame. I have begun to love that burst of flavor from drawing while lighting. It sort of lets me know where the cigar may be heading.

10-23-2008, 08:10 PM

I toast when I can because I like the "ritual"

If I'm just driving down the road and want a smoke or can't find a torch I'm happy just lighting them up!

G G · 10-23-2008, 08:46 PM

Kinda go back and forth between the two methods. I don't do too many things the right way.

10-23-2008, 03:55 PM	#1
Ender Ok, maybe just one. Join Date: Oct 2008 First Name: Andrew Location: Michigan Posts: 771 Trading: (1)	toasting vs. drawing while lighting I hear so much talk about slow toasting the foot of the stick as opposed to lighting while you draw. I would love to hear some opinions on this matter. Personally I draw while the heat of the flame is barely close enough to touch the foot. What do yas think?

10-23-2008, 04:00 PM	#2
NCRadioMan Chutney Lovebusciut Join Date: Oct 2008 First Name: Chutney Location: On the shores of Loch Shiel Posts: 4,277 Trading: (66)	Re: toasting vs. drawing while lighting To each his own. I light it right up while drawing on it. Never found that toasting made a difference. __________________ The path to loyalty is trust. Last edited by NCRadioMan; 10-23-2008 at 04:05 PM.

10-23-2008, 04:04 PM	#3
Scottw Going Commando Join Date: Oct 2008 First Name: Scott Location: Sussex, NJ Posts: 2,815 Trading: (6)	Re: toasting vs. drawing while lighting I light it without drawing if I have my torch handy. I think it is just habit. __________________ "Ray when someone asks you if your a GOD you say yes."

10-23-2008, 04:06 PM	#4
zmancbr CERTIFIED THREAD KILLER!! Join Date: Oct 2008 First Name: Zach Location: Color Red Posts: 1,692 Trading: (41)	Re: toasting vs. drawing while lighting I will toast the foot until it is pretty charred and then take a draw or two to make sure that it is lit and it burning evenly. So I guess I do both!

10-23-2008, 04:08 PM	#5
Da Klugs Juan of 11 Join Date: Oct 2008 First Name: Dave Location: Right here Posts: 4,222 Trading: (8)	Re: toasting vs. drawing while lighting http://www.cigarasylum.com/vb/showthread.php?t=1906 I was not ready to start working again. __________________ Communities Not Commodities. Punctuation challenged, but trying. Proud winner of phase 1 of the Weight loss contest

10-23-2008, 04:14 PM	#7
Golfman Guest Posts: n/a	Re: toasting vs. drawing while lighting I find that toasting it for a few seconds creates an even burn and requires less draw to fully light the smoke. When i draw a lot on an untoasted foot i tend to drool a little bit on the cigar which i try and avoid

10-23-2008, 06:41 PM	#12
ucubed Corona Cigars Join Date: Oct 2008 First Name: Kevin Location: Orlando/Gainesville Posts: 1,571 Trading: (15)	Re: toasting vs. drawing while lighting I toast a bit, up to the point that I can see most of the foot is lit, then I begin to draw and light to make sure it is completely lit and lit evenly for that matter

10-23-2008, 06:58 PM	#14
Rockestone Anythings Possible Join Date: Oct 2008 First Name: Greg Location: Anderson, SC Posts: 793 Trading: (5)	Re: toasting vs. drawing while lighting Spark it up and draw until the flame is about 2 inches high. Then blow it out.

10-23-2008, 09:20 PM	#15
Ender Ok, maybe just one. Join Date: Oct 2008 First Name: Andrew Location: Michigan Posts: 771 Trading: (1)	Re: toasting vs. drawing while lighting I was wondering about that. I've watched friends toast and wondered "doesn't that just deposit a buch of carbon on the foot that you end up drawing into the cigar?" But then again maybe if you could toast to the point of comubstion then there would be no worry about the build up of carbon.

10-23-2008, 07:36 PM	#16
BlackIrish MassHole Militia Join Date: Oct 2008 First Name: Eddie Location: Bunker Hill Posts: 1,395 Trading: (55)	Re: toasting vs. drawing while lighting I've lit them pretty much every which way. Lately I've been using the method Klugs describes because I find a get a more even burn (can't seem to get it straight if I draw while lighting) and it burns less hot at the start. BlackIrish __________________

10-23-2008, 07:40 PM	#17
BC-Axeman Guest Posts: n/a	Re: toasting vs. drawing while lighting Does anyone else use a propane torch and flame it 'till it's going, then smoke away? That's how I do it when I'm in my garage. Otherwise I toast a bit then light while drawing.

10-23-2008, 07:43 PM	#18
duckmanco Can't stop whats coming Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: that forsaken stretch of wood they call Whiskey Grove Posts: 404 Trading: (10)	Re: toasting vs. drawing while lighting I used to be a toast the foot all the way guy, but lately its been lightly toast, and then draw using the flame. I have begun to love that burst of flavor from drawing while lighting. It sort of lets me know where the cigar may be heading. __________________ "...Ain't no dark till somethin' shines..."

10-23-2008, 08:10 PM	#19
Aladdin Sane Guest Posts: n/a	Re: toasting vs. drawing while lighting I toast when I can because I like the "ritual" If I'm just driving down the road and want a smoke or can't find a torch I'm happy just lighting them up!

10-23-2008, 08:46 PM	#20
G G BR549 Join Date: Oct 2008 First Name: Greg Location: Taylor, FL. Posts: 12,730 Trading: (10)	Re: toasting vs. drawing while lighting Kinda go back and forth between the two methods. I don't do too many things the right way.