Major Disappointment w/ my first Opus X

E.J. · 09-25-2009, 09:54 PM

Oh No!!! That Opus X was a MAJOR DISAPPOINTMENT. Took them over to the neighbors to have them..... One for him, one for me... He was the guy that got me started on this. I was like a kid at Christmas waiting to go light up with him, so him todays take.....

Long story short....his was great and I couldn't keep mine lit.... It was a dud..... He kept trying to just give me the one I gave him. When declined, he tried to work it for me to get it "going" and it was for not.... I felt CHEATED. Waited all day to be blown away and was left wanting....

He did give me a humidor to use, so all was not lost.... But I am bummed.....

Going back tomorrow to get humidor gear.... Is it poor taste to tell the shop that I was sold a bad stick.... Or are those the breaks?

bobarian · 09-25-2009, 10:15 PM

Fresh OpusX's are not the greatest smoke. If you are looking for a fancy stick to smoke fresh I would go with a Padron Anniversary. But after a year or more Opus' really pick up.

SmokeyJoe · 09-25-2009, 10:19 PM

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Originally Posted by bobarian

Fresh OpusX's are not the greatest smoke. If you are looking for a fancy stick to smoke fresh I would go with a Padron Anniversary. But after a year or more Opus' really pick up.

Bob is good... Bob is wise.

Give the Opus a year or two... I love 'em.

You can always mention to the shop owner that one of them was bad... while you are buying other smokes. I have been very fortunate in dealing with B&M owners that want to keep a customer coming back. He might offer to make it good... or throw in something extra. He doesn't have to, but many times they will if you approach it right.

E.J. · 09-26-2009, 12:41 AM

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Originally Posted by bobarian

Fresh OpusX's are not the greatest smoke. If you are looking for a fancy stick to smoke fresh I would go with a Padron Anniversary. But after a year or more Opus' really pick up.

I have been doing that(4 last Saturday).... Wanted to go outside the norm.... The Padron's have been AMAZING.....but trying to expand....

09-25-2009, 10:17 PM

I'm with Bob.

As far as going to the B&M and telling them you got sold a bad stick -- it can be a tricky situation. Did you just buy them tonight and take them straight over to your friends pad or did you buy them and store them a while?

If you just bought them and they did not stay lit, by all means let your retailer know. If you stored them a while, it may have been your humidor and not really fair to blame the retailer.

This is just my

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sikk50 · 09-25-2009, 10:23 PM

I had a problem with a power ranger one night while my friend had no troubles with the robusto that same night. Fresh Opus are hit or miss at best.

09-25-2009, 10:40 PM

I had a Scorpio a week ago and I was blown away by it! SO SMOOTH and not a bit harsh at all. It obviously came aged though. Received some fresher different sized ones yesterday packed with a humi pouch and pulled out the #4 for a quick smoke. It clogged up on me after the first third and I had to relight it. I was disappointed until the last third and then voila! It turned into a piece of heaven thank God! After that I didn't put it down until I had like a half inch left. The experience left me thinking that I'll let the others age for at least a few months before giving them a try though. I think if you want a good one right away you might want to look out for a Journey to Chateu la de dah aged collection and smoke those. Overall they beat the store prices that way on singles and they're aged a few years already. Good luck!

JJG · 09-25-2009, 11:11 PM

man I'm sorry to hear that. For how much these cost, you expect (and deserve) perfection. Unfortunately cigars are still a handmade product and there's no way to guarantee 100% consistency. However, that isn't really anything the shop has control over.

There's nothing wrong with giving them your opinion on a cigar purchase, but I wouldn't do so with the expectation of a replacement or refund.

GreekGodX · 09-25-2009, 11:07 PM

I had one with about 5 years of age on it and it was a great smoke. Did it wow me beyond belief? No. Would I smoke one again? Yes, but I'm not going out of my way to buy any. Especially when a local B&M who just got them yesterday are selling at above $30 a stick. The ones I've bought were half that price. Great construction and draw but for me comes up a little short on flavor.

E.J. · 09-26-2009, 12:28 AM

I will go in tomorrow and buy two more to give it a second try... Just wanted to know if mentioning my experience would be in poor taste....

I am not waiting 2 years.... I have been smoking good cigars for 2 weeks.....I buy and smoke..... Though I did just get a humidor.....

JJG · 09-26-2009, 08:21 AM

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Originally Posted by E.J.

I will go in tomorrow and buy two more to give it a second try... Just wanted to know if mentioning my experience would be in poor taste....

I am not waiting 2 years.... I have been smoking good cigars for 2 weeks.....I buy and smoke..... Though I did just get a humidor.....

That's the spirit! I love Opus and would hate to see you get turned off of them from one bad experience.

also, it's true that they can improve with age but the fact that it's fresh shouldn't have any effect on the draw or burn. you just got a dud.

as far aging cigars, I with you there too. People say the same thing about Cubans, but I don't buy cigars to sit on them. I buy with the expectation that I should be able to smoke them right away. There are benefits to aging, I just don't have the patience and bank account to do so.

E.J. · 09-26-2009, 12:20 PM

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Originally Posted by JJG

That's the spirit! I love Opus and would hate to see you get turned off of them from one bad experience.

Make that 4.... Only paid for 3....

Shop was more than happy to replace my defect.

timo · 09-26-2009, 01:27 PM

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Originally Posted by E.J.

Make that 4.... Only paid for 3....

Shop was more than happy to replace my defect.

That is awesome.

That's how to make happy customers.

Can you tell us the name so we can all shop there

SmokeyJoe · 09-26-2009, 02:05 PM

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Originally Posted by E.J.

Make that 4.... Only paid for 3....

Shop was more than happy to replace my defect.

As I suspected... let them rest now and enjoy them later, bro!

Blueface · 09-26-2009, 02:32 PM

Wow! Opus X A.
Can't possible imagine if I could be conscious nearly 3 hours later.

GoldnGT · 09-26-2009, 09:25 AM

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Originally Posted by E.J.

I am not waiting 2 years.... I have been smoking good cigars for 2 weeks.....I buy and smoke..... Though I did just get a humidor.....

my cousin said the same thing... Bought a 5 holder travel humi... Said he would never need anything bigger because he would just buy and smoke. Now he has three humidor packed to the brim letting sticks age because he realizes how much better they are.

Bruce · 09-26-2009, 10:16 AM

It's sometimes hard to match a cigar's hype with your anticipation and expectations.
IMHO, fresh Opus is almost unsmokable. Poor burn, and too peppery. They lack balance.
But if you have the patience to age them, they can be a very good smoke.

Years ago I was at a private party with Carlito Fuente. I gave him a Fuente-Fuente from the very first release. At this time this cigar had 6 years of age on it.
He fired it up and even he was amazed. he walked over to his brother-in-law Wayne Suarez and the Newman Brothers and described what age had done to this cigar.

I once traded Cuban Davidoffs for first release Fuente-Fuentes. Yes, Opus can be that good when stored and aged properly!

E.J. · 09-26-2009, 12:37 AM

Oh....and to be clear, yes, bought this morning and smoked this evening. I was not aware that it was not a smoke I was to wait a year or more on....

Maybe this was my issue.....

I am VERY NEW to the cigar enjoyment.... So I am VERY much learning as I go....

kelmac07 · 09-26-2009, 12:45 AM

Sorry your first Opus X wasn't all that you expected!!

duckmanco · 09-26-2009, 03:28 AM

I don't think they are any better than most other full bodied cigars that taste of spicy cinnamon leather..... Litto's puros are IMO a WAAAY better example of the dom. puro. Manufactured rarities that complete with all the hype and fanboys you could ever want.....of course YMMV

09-25-2009, 09:54 PM	#1
E.J. I'm nuts for the place Join Date: Sep 2009 Posts: 3,218 Trading: (21)	Major Disappointment w/ my first Opus X Oh No!!! That Opus X was a MAJOR DISAPPOINTMENT. Took them over to the neighbors to have them..... One for him, one for me... He was the guy that got me started on this. I was like a kid at Christmas waiting to go light up with him, so him todays take..... Long story short....his was great and I couldn't keep mine lit.... It was a dud..... He kept trying to just give me the one I gave him. When declined, he tried to work it for me to get it "going" and it was for not.... I felt CHEATED. Waited all day to be blown away and was left wanting.... He did give me a humidor to use, so all was not lost.... But I am bummed..... Going back tomorrow to get humidor gear.... Is it poor taste to tell the shop that I was sold a bad stick.... Or are those the breaks?

09-25-2009, 10:15 PM	#2
bobarian Cranky Habanophile Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: Wine Country Posts: 8,869 Trading: (51)	Re: Major Disappointment w/ my first Opus X Fresh OpusX's are not the greatest smoke. If you are looking for a fancy stick to smoke fresh I would go with a Padron Anniversary. But after a year or more Opus' really pick up.

09-25-2009, 10:17 PM	#5
Darrell Guest Posts: n/a	Re: Major Disappointment w/ my first Opus X I'm with Bob. As far as going to the B&M and telling them you got sold a bad stick -- it can be a tricky situation. Did you just buy them tonight and take them straight over to your friends pad or did you buy them and store them a while? If you just bought them and they did not stay lit, by all means let your retailer know. If you stored them a while, it may have been your humidor and not really fair to blame the retailer. This is just my .

09-25-2009, 10:23 PM	#6
sikk50 Just Bored Really... Join Date: Oct 2008 First Name: Andrew Location: The Jefferson State Posts: 2,084 Trading: (13)	Re: Major Disappointment w/ my first Opus X I had a problem with a power ranger one night while my friend had no troubles with the robusto that same night. Fresh Opus are hit or miss at best. __________________ "Not a Headache in a Hogshead"

09-25-2009, 10:40 PM	#7
mariogolbee Guest Posts: n/a	Re: Major Disappointment w/ my first Opus X I had a Scorpio a week ago and I was blown away by it! SO SMOOTH and not a bit harsh at all. It obviously came aged though. Received some fresher different sized ones yesterday packed with a humi pouch and pulled out the #4 for a quick smoke. It clogged up on me after the first third and I had to relight it. I was disappointed until the last third and then voila! It turned into a piece of heaven thank God! After that I didn't put it down until I had like a half inch left. The experience left me thinking that I'll let the others age for at least a few months before giving them a try though. I think if you want a good one right away you might want to look out for a Journey to Chateu la de dah aged collection and smoke those. Overall they beat the store prices that way on singles and they're aged a few years already. Good luck!

09-25-2009, 11:11 PM	#8
JJG Have My Own Room Join Date: Jan 2009 First Name: Jeff Location: Houston Posts: 1,260 Trading: (4)	Re: Major Disappointment w/ my first Opus X man I'm sorry to hear that. For how much these cost, you expect (and deserve) perfection. Unfortunately cigars are still a handmade product and there's no way to guarantee 100% consistency. However, that isn't really anything the shop has control over. There's nothing wrong with giving them your opinion on a cigar purchase, but I wouldn't do so with the expectation of a replacement or refund.

09-25-2009, 11:07 PM	#9
GreekGodX Opa!! Join Date: Mar 2009 First Name: Christos Location: 7 Line Posts: 4,893 Trading: (82)	Re: Major Disappointment w/ my first Opus X I had one with about 5 years of age on it and it was a great smoke. Did it wow me beyond belief? No. Would I smoke one again? Yes, but I'm not going out of my way to buy any. Especially when a local B&M who just got them yesterday are selling at above $30 a stick. The ones I've bought were half that price. Great construction and draw but for me comes up a little short on flavor. __________________ "If I give a businessman 10,000 francs, what is that to him, he is rich. But if I give him a Cohiba cigar, that is style."-Hotel Rwanda

09-26-2009, 12:28 AM	#10
E.J. I'm nuts for the place Join Date: Sep 2009 Posts: 3,218 Trading: (21)	Re: Major Disappointment w/ my first Opus X I will go in tomorrow and buy two more to give it a second try... Just wanted to know if mentioning my experience would be in poor taste.... I am not waiting 2 years.... I have been smoking good cigars for 2 weeks.....I buy and smoke..... Though I did just get a humidor.....

09-26-2009, 02:32 PM	#15
Blueface Gramps 4x's Join Date: Oct 2008 First Name: Horatio Seymore Hiny Location: Boca Raton - North of La Habana Posts: 8,774 Trading: (8)	Re: Major Disappointment w/ my first Opus X Wow! Opus X A. Can't possible imagine if I could be conscious nearly 3 hours later. __________________ Little known fact: I am a former member of the Village People - The Indian

09-26-2009, 10:16 AM	#17
Bruce Adjusting to the Life Join Date: Oct 2008 Posts: 370 Trading: (2)	Re: Major Disappointment w/ my first Opus X It's sometimes hard to match a cigar's hype with your anticipation and expectations. IMHO, fresh Opus is almost unsmokable. Poor burn, and too peppery. They lack balance. But if you have the patience to age them, they can be a very good smoke. Years ago I was at a private party with Carlito Fuente. I gave him a Fuente-Fuente from the very first release. At this time this cigar had 6 years of age on it. He fired it up and even he was amazed. he walked over to his brother-in-law Wayne Suarez and the Newman Brothers and described what age had done to this cigar. I once traded Cuban Davidoffs for first release Fuente-Fuentes. Yes, Opus can be that good when stored and aged properly!

09-26-2009, 12:37 AM	#18
E.J. I'm nuts for the place Join Date: Sep 2009 Posts: 3,218 Trading: (21)	Re: Major Disappointment w/ my first Opus X Oh....and to be clear, yes, bought this morning and smoked this evening. I was not aware that it was not a smoke I was to wait a year or more on.... Maybe this was my issue..... I am VERY NEW to the cigar enjoyment.... So I am VERY much learning as I go....

09-26-2009, 12:45 AM	#19
kelmac07 Resident Maduro Whore!! Join Date: Apr 2009 First Name: Mac Location: Newport News, VA Posts: 27,322 Trading: (218)	Re: Major Disappointment w/ my first Opus X Sorry your first Opus X wasn't all that you expected!! __________________ Dom in the MLB thread "I could probably get you to wear a Yankee hat for a Maduro!"

09-26-2009, 03:28 AM	#20
duckmanco Can't stop whats coming Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: that forsaken stretch of wood they call Whiskey Grove Posts: 404 Trading: (10)	Re: Major Disappointment w/ my first Opus X I don't think they are any better than most other full bodied cigars that taste of spicy cinnamon leather..... Litto's puros are IMO a WAAAY better example of the dom. puro. Manufactured rarities that complete with all the hype and fanboys you could ever want.....of course YMMV __________________ "...Ain't no dark till somethin' shines..."