Buying/Selling Cigars using Electronic Payment

GreekGodX · 05-13-2009, 08:23 PM

The purpose of this message is to let everyone on CA know when using pa yp al or other electronic payments not to put any mention of cigars or tobacco products in the transaction. Due to a recent transaction selling cigars, my pa yp al account was being reviewed for the possible sale of embargoed products. I definitely did not sell any CC's on there they were legitimate NC's. I was able to withdraw my funds but they were threatening to close my account if I did not provide them with info on the origin of the cigars. Also if I did not prove to them they were not embargoed, they were going to forward the case to the OFAC for further investigation. Luckily I had the receipts and sent them some pics of the cigars and everything went fine. But I do not want others to have to go through the same thing for something that can be easily avoided.

Just note electronic payment companies prohibit the sale of any cigars or tobacco products. So if you are going to make a sale or purchase cigars make sure not to mention it anywhere during the payment process.

WildBlueSooner · 05-13-2009, 08:24 PM

Good reminder! Thanks!

ucla695 · 05-13-2009, 08:26 PM

Good reminder for all of us!

kelmac07 · 05-13-2009, 08:27 PM

Great info for future reference...thanks.

hotreds · 05-13-2009, 08:30 PM

What a pain! Indeed, NEVER mention anything tobacco when using poo pail!

marge796 · 05-13-2009, 09:04 PM

Thank you my friend!

elderboy02 · 05-13-2009, 09:06 PM

I never mention tobacco. You don't have to write anything in the subject line

SeanGAR · 05-13-2009, 09:07 PM

Yeah, I always mark "poo juice" in the poopal notifications. Let them come after me for that.

cricky101 · 05-13-2009, 09:17 PM

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Originally Posted by SeanGAR

Yeah, I always mark "poo juice" in the poopal notifications. Let them come after me for that.

PeiPahl inspector: "Man, that guy sure does buy a lot of poo juice ...."

chippewastud79 · 05-13-2009, 09:24 PM

A good reminder. I got a little scare from PP too when someone put cigars in mine, but luckily it made it through

md4958 · 05-13-2009, 09:16 PM

Yup, I know the feeling. I got the same "review" a couple months ago.

Youre basically banned Christos. My account was never reactivated, nor will they let me close the account, change the bank or cc accounts, or addresses.

I tried being sneaky and opening another account. That was shut down after 2 days too.

I feel like an internet cripple now... always asking people to send and receive money for me. Its a real pain in the balls.

GreekGodX · 05-13-2009, 09:23 PM

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Originally Posted by md4958

Yup, I know the feeling. I got the same "review" a couple months ago.

Youre basically banned Christos. My account was never reactivated, nor will they let me close the account, change the bank or cc accounts, or addresses.

I tried being sneaky and opening another account. That was shut down after 2 days too.

I feel like an internet cripple now... always asking people to send and receive money for me. Its a real pain in the balls.

Well initially they told me multiple times that they would be closing the account, but now I got an email saying the account will stay open and all limitations will be removed. After logging into it, the account is still "limited". So I will wait and see..

I've already have been having issues with sending/receiving using others. Not fun at all.

md4958 · 05-13-2009, 09:27 PM

The pain in the ass is that my issue was just that somebody put "(name) from cigar asylum" That was enough to shut me down. no other mention of cigars made

GreekGodX · 05-13-2009, 09:30 PM

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Originally Posted by md4958

The pain in the ass is that my issue was just that somebody put "(name) from cigar asylum" That was enough to shut me down. no other mention of cigars made

That is B.S!! You could have been selling anything and just happened to meet the buyer through a cigar site. I cannot believe they would put you through the whole review process over that! Maybe google's payment service is better and we can make a mass move over to using them

md4958 · 05-13-2009, 09:33 PM

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Originally Posted by GreekGodX

Maybe google's payment service is better and we can make a mass move over to using them

just signed up yesterday

Anyway, good luck with your account Christos. Hopefully youll have a better outcome than me

WildBlueSooner · 05-13-2009, 09:55 PM

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Originally Posted by md4958

just signed up yesterday

Anyway, good luck with your account Christos. Hopefully youll have a better outcome than me

Never knew google had a pay service... I will sign up soon and try it out

wayner123 · 05-14-2009, 08:20 AM

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Originally Posted by WildBlueSooner

Never knew google had a pay service... I will sign up soon and try it out

Googlecheckout is a totally different setup than PP. It's much more for the online business than transactions person to person. There is really no other service quite like PP. It's a love and hate relationship (I have had friends lose literally thousands from locked accounts). Remember PP is NOT a bank and they don't have to abide by any of the rules that banks do. The best thing is to always pull your money out when you can, and be cautious.

One way to get around the whole tobacco issue is to get the PP Debit card. Since it's Visa regulated, they can't tell you what to spend it on. But yet, it uses your PP account balance.

Thrak · 05-14-2009, 07:06 AM

You should've told them to suck it, and then close the account. You shouldnt have had to prove anything.

md4958 · 05-14-2009, 07:11 AM

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Originally Posted by Thrak

You should've told them to suck it, and then close the account. You shouldnt have had to prove anything.

you cant close the account, because once they "limit" it, you cant do chit.

GreekGodX · 05-14-2009, 08:05 AM

Yea I would have loved to just have closed it.. I don't get why they won't let you close it. The account is useless now anyway..

05-13-2009, 08:23 PM	#1
GreekGodX Opa!! Join Date: Mar 2009 First Name: Christos Location: 7 Line Posts: 4,893 Trading: (82)	Buying/Selling Cigars using Electronic Payment The purpose of this message is to let everyone on CA know when using pa yp al or other electronic payments not to put any mention of cigars or tobacco products in the transaction. Due to a recent transaction selling cigars, my pa yp al account was being reviewed for the possible sale of embargoed products. I definitely did not sell any CC's on there they were legitimate NC's. I was able to withdraw my funds but they were threatening to close my account if I did not provide them with info on the origin of the cigars. Also if I did not prove to them they were not embargoed, they were going to forward the case to the OFAC for further investigation. Luckily I had the receipts and sent them some pics of the cigars and everything went fine. But I do not want others to have to go through the same thing for something that can be easily avoided. Just note electronic payment companies prohibit the sale of any cigars or tobacco products. So if you are going to make a sale or purchase cigars make sure not to mention it anywhere during the payment process. __________________ "If I give a businessman 10,000 francs, what is that to him, he is rich. But if I give him a Cohiba cigar, that is style."-Hotel Rwanda

05-13-2009, 08:24 PM	#2
WildBlueSooner I'm nuts for the place Join Date: Feb 2009 First Name: James Location: Lexington, KY Posts: 3,322 Trading: (19)	Re: Buying/Selling Cigars using Electronic Payment Good reminder! Thanks! __________________ "To dilute the will to win is to destroy the purpose of the game. There is no substitute for victory"-- Douglas MacArthur

05-13-2009, 08:26 PM	#3
ucla695 Neither here, nor there Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: The Pool Posts: 3,696 Trading: (5)	Re: Buying/Selling Cigars using Electronic Payment Good reminder for all of us!

05-13-2009, 08:27 PM	#4
kelmac07 Resident Maduro Whore!! Join Date: Apr 2009 First Name: Mac Location: Newport News, VA Posts: 27,322 Trading: (218)	Re: Buying/Selling Cigars using Electronic Payment Great info for future reference...thanks.

05-13-2009, 08:30 PM	#5
hotreds Ephesians 2:8 Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: 5 miles past "Resume Speed" Posts: 11,662 Trading: (63)	Re: Buying/Selling Cigars using Electronic Payment What a pain! Indeed, NEVER mention anything tobacco when using poo pail! __________________ God loves you so much, that he made you read this, just to let you know.

05-13-2009, 09:04 PM	#6
marge796 It Just Doesn’t Matter!!! Join Date: Feb 2009 First Name: Chris Location: Topeka KS Posts: 1,624 Trading: (28)	Re: Buying/Selling Cigars using Electronic Payment Thank you my friend! __________________ “Don’t talk to me about naval tradition. It’s nothing but rum, sodomy and the lash.” -Sir Winston Churchill

05-13-2009, 09:06 PM	#7
elderboy02 Lets Go Buckeyes! Join Date: Oct 2008 First Name: Dan Location: Cincinnati, OH Posts: 12,508 Trading: (133)	Re: Buying/Selling Cigars using Electronic Payment I never mention tobacco. You don't have to write anything in the subject line

05-13-2009, 09:07 PM	#8
SeanGAR Crotchety Geezer Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: Radford VA Posts: 911 Trading: (3)	Re: Buying/Selling Cigars using Electronic Payment Yeah, I always mark "poo juice" in the poopal notifications. Let them come after me for that. __________________ How can you have any pudding if you don't eat your meat?

05-13-2009, 09:24 PM	#10
chippewastud79 Fatter than you! Join Date: Oct 2008 First Name: Larry Location: A little place called home. Posts: 5,397 Trading: (44)	Re: Buying/Selling Cigars using Electronic Payment A good reminder. I got a little scare from PP too when someone put cigars in mine, but luckily it made it through __________________ If we weren't supposed to eat animals, then how come they're made of meat? You can never have too many cigars, they are like an investment in good times.

05-13-2009, 09:16 PM	#11
md4958 Captain Cannoli Join Date: Oct 2008 First Name: Moe Location: Suffield, CT Posts: 5,712 Trading: (62)	Re: Buying/Selling Cigars using Electronic Payment Yup, I know the feeling. I got the same "review" a couple months ago. Youre basically banned Christos. My account was never reactivated, nor will they let me close the account, change the bank or cc accounts, or addresses. I tried being sneaky and opening another account. That was shut down after 2 days too. I feel like an internet cripple now... always asking people to send and receive money for me. Its a real pain in the balls. __________________ "One fart can foul the air for everyone" - Esteemed philosopher "If avoiding the nasty $hit is being a snob, them I am guilty as charged."- Same esteemed philosopher.

05-13-2009, 09:27 PM	#13
md4958 Captain Cannoli Join Date: Oct 2008 First Name: Moe Location: Suffield, CT Posts: 5,712 Trading: (62)	Re: Buying/Selling Cigars using Electronic Payment The pain in the ass is that my issue was just that somebody put "(name) from cigar asylum" That was enough to shut me down. no other mention of cigars made __________________ "One fart can foul the air for everyone" - Esteemed philosopher "If avoiding the nasty $hit is being a snob, them I am guilty as charged."- Same esteemed philosopher.

05-14-2009, 07:06 AM	#18
Thrak .. the man from Nantucket Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: Canton, GA Posts: 558 Trading: (2)	Re: Buying/Selling Cigars using Electronic Payment You should've told them to suck it, and then close the account. You shouldnt have had to prove anything.

05-14-2009, 08:05 AM	#20
GreekGodX Opa!! Join Date: Mar 2009 First Name: Christos Location: 7 Line Posts: 4,893 Trading: (82)	Re: Buying/Selling Cigars using Electronic Payment Yea I would have loved to just have closed it.. I don't get why they won't let you close it. The account is useless now anyway.. __________________ "If I give a businessman 10,000 francs, what is that to him, he is rich. But if I give him a Cohiba cigar, that is style."-Hotel Rwanda