Vinotemp help

big a · 04-27-2009, 03:52 PM

Well i am a little pissed off right now. Here is the story

It gets very hot in Ohio for some reason over the past couple days. I was away for the weekend and come home on Sunday to check out the Vinotemp and see that it is 70* in there

My vino says that is 64 in there which is what i had it set at but the 3 dig hygros disagree. So no I'm looking at it and i take the back cover off to see if can see anything that might have came loose and nothing. Im not very good with fixing electronics but i could tell if something didnt look right. So i set it to 54* to see if it will do anything and after all day i come home. It reads 64* and the hygros says it is still 70* inside. I unplug it for 10 mins and come back, plug it in and the vino now says it is 70* along with the hygros. I set it at 64* come back 10 mins later and the vino says 64* and they hygros still say 70*. I got the vino used about 5 mths ago and when i picked it up we set it to 54 and it got nice and cool in there. Now after winter and the cooling part not running it woln't work when i need it now.

Has anyone had this problem and or have any ideas what might be wrong? Is the sensor broke? is the cooling unit in the vino broke? Any ideas?

And don't worry none of these cigars will be going out to anyone after this for a very long time.

04-27-2009, 04:12 PM

70% is ok for cigars ,mate

CigarmanTim · 04-27-2009, 04:15 PM

Change your digital hygrometer and try it again. 70 is ok though.

big a · 04-27-2009, 04:30 PM

Sorry to be unclear it is not 70% humidity it is 70+ degrees Fahrenheit in there.

04-27-2009, 04:34 PM

70 degrees is fine. Don't let it get above 80 for days at a time and you will be fine. I understand you want it to stay at 64, but if the ambient temp is at 80+ then the cooler is going to do it's best to keep it at 64, but it may be impossible. I don't think it guarantees that it will keep it at that temperature regardless of ambient temp.

lightning9191 · 04-27-2009, 04:38 PM

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Originally Posted by Darrell

70 degrees is fine. Don't let it get above 80 for days at a time and you will be fine. I understand you want it to stay at 64, but if the ambient temp is at 80+ then the cooler is going to do it's best to keep it at 64, but it may be impossible. I don't think it guarantees that it will keep it at that temperature regardless of ambient temp.

This man knows some stuff. I think somewhere in the directions they say the max temp or something like that. Beyond that temp, who knows what happens.

big a · 04-27-2009, 04:39 PM

I thought beatles can hatch at 70+? that is what i was worried about and that i set the vino at 64, reads 64, and all three of the hygros read 74 degrees. I guess i just thought it would keep it closer to what it is set at. Either way ill relax and watch and see what she does just started to worry now that i have some much invested in this. Thanks guys

04-27-2009, 04:59 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by big a

I thought beatles can hatch at 70+? that is what i was worried about and that i set the vino at 64, reads 64, and all three of the hygros read 74 degrees. I guess i just thought it would keep it closer to what it is set at. Either way ill relax and watch and see what she does just started to worry now that i have some much invested in this. Thanks guys

As I understand 80 is when they start hatching.

BamBam · 04-27-2009, 05:07 PM

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Originally Posted by Darrell

As I understand 80 is when they start hatching.

plus to my knowledge it has to be for an extended period of time.

At least I hope b/c here in Ohio it has been in the mid 80s for days, almost hitting 90 at times. I have a cab humi....and oh yeah my A/C decided to take a dump also.

So....my humi has been hitting 80 in the day and around 70 at night. If I wasn't already sweating from the heat and humidity, I'm really sweating due to the temps in my humi.

I swear if I get beetles that I will buy a Vino....and I know I'll need 2 of em thanks to you bastages and the friggin slope.

04-27-2009, 05:12 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BamBam

plus to my knowledge it has to be for an extended period of time.

Yes, I mentioned that in my first post.

gnukfu · 04-27-2009, 05:16 PM

Had the same issue in one of mine - moved some of my boxes around because they were jammed up against the vent openings in back....that took care of it.

lostark374 · 04-27-2009, 05:20 PM

one big problem with thermoelectric cooling is that it's dependant on ambient temp to be effective. im not sure of the internal specs of the wine cooler of the thermal capacity of the heat sink on the pelt but it seems my vino struggels to maintain 10f below ambient.

CigarmanTim · 04-27-2009, 05:17 PM

There is a good article in Cigar magazine about beetles. An indepth study paid for by the museams. They took bails infested with beetles and inspected them after some temperature changes. They found that beetles can hatch at around 72 degrees. there is a ten day period after the hatch that you will see them. Anyways...real good article. I would be concerned iof it were 80 degrees but 70...not a prob.

XTRazzer · 04-27-2009, 05:30 PM

I had a Haier 6-bottle unit that stayed pegged at 64°F or 67°F when it croaked (it was the highest temperature the in-door thermostat would allow).

My apartment was around 72°F. Turning the Haier down to 54°F and waiting 24-hours didn't change things. So out on the curb it went.

big a · 04-27-2009, 05:53 PM

Yes this ohio weather is pretty hot right now, sucks for storing cigars but its great for fishing. I had the vino on the whole time i was gone and it was set at 64. It uis not like i just plugged it in and expect it to be cool in there it has been on the whole time. I have it fairly open and nothing blocking the back of it. It sounds like i am over reacting, ill just ride it out and hope for best.

gnukfu · 04-27-2009, 06:35 PM

It's 82 in the house and 64 and 68 in my 2 coolers. I had the 68 degree one open for a couple of minutes 2 hours ago...I'm sure ambient humidity plays into the cooling as well...the air is pretty dry here right now....42% RH

big a · 04-27-2009, 10:36 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by gnukfu

It's 82 in the house and 64 and 68 in my 2 coolers. I had the 68 degree one open for a couple of minutes 2 hours ago...I'm sure ambient humidity plays into the cooling as well...the air is pretty dry here right now....42% RH

What do you have them set at to acheive that?

gnukfu · 04-28-2009, 04:59 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by big a

What do you have them set at to acheive that?

One is a Vino - that is set at 60 [that was reading 64]
The other is an Urbina that I have set at minimum cooling (it doesn't have a digital output and it tends to run cold) [that was reading 68]

DPD6030 · 04-30-2009, 02:19 AM

If you have a basement put the vinos down there. It helps me out a lot.

D. Generate · 04-30-2009, 02:28 PM

I must disagree with some of what is said here. I am no entomologist, but I have first-hand experience of beetles hatching at far under 80 degrees. I'm talking about London in autumn and spring.

We don't have heaters running and the indoor temperature would maybe on occasion reach 70F to a max of 72F. I had beetles on two separate occasions over a year apart; neither was from new stock. One box I had possessed for over two years with no signs of beetles.

I own two wine coolerdors now and I keep the temp below 65F. Just my two cents, your mileage may vary etc etc. In my experience anything over 70F or perhaps in that ballpark, is asking for trouble.

04-27-2009, 03:52 PM	#1
big a Feeling at Home Join Date: Dec 2008 First Name: Andrew Location: Ohio Posts: 913 Trading: (42)	Vinotemp help Well i am a little pissed off right now. Here is the story It gets very hot in Ohio for some reason over the past couple days. I was away for the weekend and come home on Sunday to check out the Vinotemp and see that it is 70* in there My vino says that is 64 in there which is what i had it set at but the 3 dig hygros disagree. So no I'm looking at it and i take the back cover off to see if can see anything that might have came loose and nothing. Im not very good with fixing electronics but i could tell if something didnt look right. So i set it to 54* to see if it will do anything and after all day i come home. It reads 64* and the hygros says it is still 70* inside. I unplug it for 10 mins and come back, plug it in and the vino now says it is 70* along with the hygros. I set it at 64* come back 10 mins later and the vino says 64* and they hygros still say 70*. I got the vino used about 5 mths ago and when i picked it up we set it to 54 and it got nice and cool in there. Now after winter and the cooling part not running it woln't work when i need it now. Has anyone had this problem and or have any ideas what might be wrong? Is the sensor broke? is the cooling unit in the vino broke? Any ideas? And don't worry none of these cigars will be going out to anyone after this for a very long time. __________________ "If heaven has no cigars, I shall not go there" -Mark Twain

04-27-2009, 04:12 PM	#2
adampc22 Guest Posts: n/a	Re: Vinotemp help 70% is ok for cigars ,mate

04-27-2009, 04:15 PM	#3
CigarmanTim Still Watching My Back Join Date: Oct 2008 First Name: Tim Location: Heath, Ohio Posts: 117 Trading: (7)	Re: Vinotemp help Change your digital hygrometer and try it again. 70 is ok though.

04-27-2009, 04:30 PM	#4
big a Feeling at Home Join Date: Dec 2008 First Name: Andrew Location: Ohio Posts: 913 Trading: (42)	Re: Vinotemp help Sorry to be unclear it is not 70% humidity it is 70+ degrees Fahrenheit in there. __________________ "If heaven has no cigars, I shall not go there" -Mark Twain

04-27-2009, 04:34 PM	#5
Darrell Guest Posts: n/a	Re: Vinotemp help 70 degrees is fine. Don't let it get above 80 for days at a time and you will be fine. I understand you want it to stay at 64, but if the ambient temp is at 80+ then the cooler is going to do it's best to keep it at 64, but it may be impossible. I don't think it guarantees that it will keep it at that temperature regardless of ambient temp.

04-27-2009, 04:39 PM	#7
big a Feeling at Home Join Date: Dec 2008 First Name: Andrew Location: Ohio Posts: 913 Trading: (42)	Re: Vinotemp help I thought beatles can hatch at 70+? that is what i was worried about and that i set the vino at 64, reads 64, and all three of the hygros read 74 degrees. I guess i just thought it would keep it closer to what it is set at. Either way ill relax and watch and see what she does just started to worry now that i have some much invested in this. Thanks guys __________________ "If heaven has no cigars, I shall not go there" -Mark Twain Last edited by big a; 04-27-2009 at 04:46 PM.

04-27-2009, 05:16 PM	#11
gnukfu I like cigars Join Date: Oct 2008 First Name: George Location: Massholia Posts: 1,466 Trading: (27)	Re: Vinotemp help Had the same issue in one of mine - moved some of my boxes around because they were jammed up against the vent openings in back....that took care of it. __________________ Curious George

04-27-2009, 05:20 PM	#12
lostark374 Framed Join Date: Oct 2008 First Name: Aaron Location: Southern California Posts: 432 Trading: (5)	Re: Vinotemp help one big problem with thermoelectric cooling is that it's dependant on ambient temp to be effective. im not sure of the internal specs of the wine cooler of the thermal capacity of the heat sink on the pelt but it seems my vino struggels to maintain 10f below ambient. __________________ Eatin Kernel's Chicken, Drinkin Heineken Brew!!!!!

04-27-2009, 05:17 PM	#13
CigarmanTim Still Watching My Back Join Date: Oct 2008 First Name: Tim Location: Heath, Ohio Posts: 117 Trading: (7)	Re: Vinotemp help There is a good article in Cigar magazine about beetles. An indepth study paid for by the museams. They took bails infested with beetles and inspected them after some temperature changes. They found that beetles can hatch at around 72 degrees. there is a ten day period after the hatch that you will see them. Anyways...real good article. I would be concerned iof it were 80 degrees but 70...not a prob.

04-27-2009, 05:30 PM	#14
XTRazzer Still Watching My Back Join Date: Apr 2009 Posts: 131 Trading: (1)	Re: Vinotemp help I had a Haier 6-bottle unit that stayed pegged at 64°F or 67°F when it croaked (it was the highest temperature the in-door thermostat would allow). My apartment was around 72°F. Turning the Haier down to 54°F and waiting 24-hours didn't change things. So out on the curb it went.

04-27-2009, 05:53 PM	#15
big a Feeling at Home Join Date: Dec 2008 First Name: Andrew Location: Ohio Posts: 913 Trading: (42)	Re: Vinotemp help Yes this ohio weather is pretty hot right now, sucks for storing cigars but its great for fishing. I had the vino on the whole time i was gone and it was set at 64. It uis not like i just plugged it in and expect it to be cool in there it has been on the whole time. I have it fairly open and nothing blocking the back of it. It sounds like i am over reacting, ill just ride it out and hope for best. __________________ "If heaven has no cigars, I shall not go there" -Mark Twain

04-27-2009, 06:35 PM	#16
gnukfu I like cigars Join Date: Oct 2008 First Name: George Location: Massholia Posts: 1,466 Trading: (27)	Re: Vinotemp help It's 82 in the house and 64 and 68 in my 2 coolers. I had the 68 degree one open for a couple of minutes 2 hours ago...I'm sure ambient humidity plays into the cooling as well...the air is pretty dry here right now....42% RH __________________ Curious George

04-30-2009, 02:19 AM	#19
DPD6030 Shepard of the sheeple Join Date: Oct 2008 First Name: Andrew Location: The Mitten Posts: 7,166 Trading: (151)	Re: Vinotemp help If you have a basement put the vinos down there. It helps me out a lot.

04-30-2009, 02:28 PM	#20
D. Generate El Dudarino Join Date: Jan 2009 First Name: Dale Location: London Posts: 217 Trading: (1)	Re: Vinotemp help I must disagree with some of what is said here. I am no entomologist, but I have first-hand experience of beetles hatching at far under 80 degrees. I'm talking about London in autumn and spring. We don't have heaters running and the indoor temperature would maybe on occasion reach 70F to a max of 72F. I had beetles on two separate occasions over a year apart; neither was from new stock. One box I had possessed for over two years with no signs of beetles. I own two wine coolerdors now and I keep the temp below 65F. Just my two cents, your mileage may vary etc etc. In my experience anything over 70F or perhaps in that ballpark, is asking for trouble. __________________ What would Lemmy do?