is it wrong to withold a source?

i'm not even talking about CC's in this case. some other person on another forum saw me post about opus being in stock locally and the issue i have is that i've had sources ruined just as recent as 2 months ago by people i don't personally know but ran into and told them where get some HTF's. i had a local source who use to hook me up and call me every time something came in and charge me a reasonable price. i gave this source to a few people to get a few things and it turns out one of them runs a website selling opus and other HTF's for huge amounts and now the source doesn't even call me because the other guy will pay 20$ for a single robusto opus.

so what do i do when someone asks me who i don't know? i tell them i'd rather not out of protection of my source but they get mad and tell me i have a poor attitude. yet they have hardly any posts or reputation on the forums and just expect me to trust them 100%. is that right? am i caring to much about this? i got called a f-stick recently for politely declining to tell the party where i get them from now and i've never even met or seen this guy on the forums. thoughts? doesn't the same apply to CC sources? BTW, this person is not on these forums.

If I had a source and someone wanted it, it all depends. But I would not worry one bit if I said no and was called names, I don't even know them so why care. So no it is not wrong.

[hotreds]

No- it's up to you to do with your source what you want. If the guy calls you names for doing so that only proves how right you were not to give it up. On the other hand- and I'm not saying you do or did this- some BOTLs really need to cool their jets about bragging about their latest pick-ups- esp. with CCs. After all, these ARE illegal here- and in theory should not be any anyone's hands that lives in the USA.

But- to answer your question succinctly: No.

[GKitty]

Originally Posted by hotreds

No- it's up to you to do with your source what you want. If the guy calls you names for doing so that only proves how right you were not to give it up.

Originally Posted by hotreds

No- it's up to you to do with your source what you want. If the guy calls you names for doing so that only proves how right you were not to give it up.

Now, witholding info from your fellow inmates is subject to scrutiny, of course....

[wrench turner 85]

Originally Posted by hotreds

No- it's up to you to do with your source what you want. If the guy calls you names for doing so that only proves how right you were not to give it up. On the other hand- and I'm not saying you do or did this- some BOTLs really need to cool their jets about bragging about their latest pick-ups- esp. with CCs. After all, these ARE illegal here- and in theory should not be any anyone's hands that lives in the USA.

But- to answer your question succinctly: No.

[Footbag]

Nothing wrong at all with it, especially if stock qty. is an issue.

It is only wrong if you are withholding your source from me.
Otherwise, your source is your source.

[68TriShield]

I'd would not withhold from a friend/BOTL.
It's obvious that you sell some cigars,most of your comments are from buyers.All positive comments I might add
I personally have bought some things from you in the past and was always happy with the transaction,so that's not a issue at all.
I'm just curious if your trading plays into your question.

Please don't answer if you don't want to my friend

[tunes]

I recently asked a member of this forum for a source for some cc’s. Having never purchased them before, I was a little reluctant. Being new to this site and all, I also told them that I fully understood if they didn’t want to offer any assistance. As it turned out, they were more than happy to oblige. Had they not, I wouldn’t have started a rant or name calling. So I guess what I’m saying is it’s all up to you and how you feel about the person that’s asking - hindsight, after the name calling, you did the right thing! God I love this place.

you can always point them to CI...

Originally Posted by 68TriShield

I'd would not withhold from a friend/BOTL.
It's obvious that you sell some cigars,most of your comments are from buyers.All positive comments I might add
I personally have bought some things from you in the past and was always happy with the transaction,so that's not a issue at all.
I'm just curious if your trading plays into your question.

Please don't answer if you don't want to my friend

i would answer but call me slow, i don't really follow your question

it's not direct enough for my young brain to process.

I work in a field where I get alot of opportunities to work 24 hour shifts in small towns on the weekends for thousands of dollars a shift (which helps to pay off my education bills and keep my family from wanting). During the week, I work at a military clinic. I was recently asked by one of my fellow military clinicians at the military clinic where I worked on the weekends. I told him. Next thing I know, I find he is working the shifts that used to by mine to pick up; further, he has trumped up a bogus reason why he can't leave on taskings during the week and told this to our commanding officer. Now, I am getting tasked all over the place, am missing out on many weekend shifts because I am gone and he is fully benefitting financially from this.

So, once bitten, twice shy. If the other person has not earned access to that "special information" then you are likely harming yourself with no chance of reciprocation by giving out the information. If the person gets angry, then likely they would never have earned access to that information (and probably would never deserve it). If they graciously accept the decline, then they may, at a later date, earn that information.

So, not telling them, is completely legit, without a relationship of trust existing prior.

Thats just my view

John

[Snake Hips]

I never just give out Habanos sources unless it's someone I know at least pretty well from the forums. I've seen a barage of new guys asking me for them the last couple of months on various fora, and how I respond depends on how they approach me. Most of the time they just ask me for a clue, so what I do is offer to guide them away from sheisters as long as they do their own footwork to find vendors, explaining that sources are earned because they were hard to get and because they get spoiled or overfished.

Sometimes they straight-up ask me where to get them, and I tell them exactly what they should do. Contact Habanos, S.A. and get a list of their distributors, and painstakingly contact each of them about each vendor they want to know about, then order something from any of them to see if they're any good. If they have the balls to come up to me with 2 posts and basically say "Hey wheres the best internet source for real CC?" then they have the balls to find out the hard way like people used to, and that's spending months tracking the legitimacy of sources through the offical supply chain.

It's your info and you can choose who to share it with I wold not worry about what anyone thought.
Josh

[Sandman]

I used to, now I don't. It's unbelievable how ungrateful some have been when I have helped them out. Never did give out a source that was beyond the obvious though. It was amazing at the old board, there would be banner ads flashing all day, and people would still be wondering where to source cigars.

[68TriShield]

Originally Posted by barbourjay

i would answer but call me slow, i don't really follow your question

it's not direct enough for my young brain to process.

Okay...you *sell* quite a few cigars,why I don't know or care.
What I wonder is,has giving up a source ever soured one of your sales,and is that why you're asking our opinion?

Disclaimer:barbourjay's sales are top notch.

Originally Posted by 68TriShield

Okay...you *sell* quite a few cigars,why I don't know or care.
What I wonder is,has giving up a source ever soured one of your sales,and is that why you're asking our opinion?

Disclaimer:barbourjay's sales are top notch.

never has soured one of my sales. i try my best to fill WTB's and do box splits (like the tatuaje monster one i did which is half my feedback).

i was asking peoples opinion to see what the proper way to address this situation is.

When it comes to Opus/HTF Fuentes: it doesn't take alot to find sources for yourself. I wouldn't give up a local B/M, etc... because inevitably the source WILL get ruined everytime! When I'm asked I give the same standard 3sources without hesitation: Holts, TS and Famous. At least I know they stick to the limit policies and have enough stock that they usually don't dry up so quickly. Giving out HTF Fuente sources is like telling your salary to your coworkers; it will only cause bad felings in the end. I have aquired quite a few sources from here and CS and I don't want them ruined. I bought some Opus from you as well at just about MSRP which was more than fair in my book. I don't think I've ever seen anyone give you a bad comment. The person who got pissed at you can go pound sand as I think your sales are well above the board. They are your sources to do with as you please and I say loose lips sink sources ( or something like that )

[RGD.]

Originally Posted by barbourjay

. . . my young brain to process.

It all gets easier to avoid answering the question when you get old. "Um I got those from . . . now lemme think - what the hell is that name - crap I forgot - it will come to me one day - damn."

And people believe you . . . cause your old.

Most of the time though I sound like that when I'm seriously trying to answer the question -


Ron

[Smokin Gator]

If it were me... yes... you would be wrong to withhold said source. Otherwise, no, it would be fine. Plus, if they throw down a name then you know you did right.