Lancero question

RevSmoke · 05-23-2009, 03:34 PM

OK, I am really enjoying my Oliva V Lanceros - got a 5er of them. Was never much of a small ring gauge smoker, and not normally a fan of long smokes. I have had some, really enjoyed them, but for whatever reason they never became popular with me.

I have picked up a couple Taboo lanceros, and they were also good. I had a Trinidad Fundadore, and that was also excellent.

I must say, I like the way the wrapper leaf is highlighted in a well-rolled Lancero.

And that brings me to my dilemna. I have found a few Lanceros which have caused me to turn my head inside out trying to get a minimal amount of smoke, as they drew like a good wooden dowel.

What would you suggest for Lanceros that are consistently tasty, highlighting a unique taste or wrapper leaf, and which have never (or rarely) cause you draw issues?

Give an average price expectancy for them as well. Thanks.

Ender · 05-23-2009, 03:42 PM

Cubao lanceros are awesome as are the CAO LX2's if you can find em', HDM has a good one too. Keep in mind they are a "sippnig" vitola and you don't wanna puff them too hard. People often complain that they don't get as much smoke as they are used to but I still find it worth it.

gnukfu · 05-23-2009, 03:44 PM

DPG Blue and Black Lanceros are very good Todd...price would vary greatly depending on where you buy em. I would guess anywhere from 6-12 dollars depending on if you got a deal online or got em at a local B&M.

montecristo#2 · 05-23-2009, 03:48 PM

What RH are you storing them at?

I keep all of my cigars at 65% and while I have definitely had tight lanceros, for the most part mine smoke fine.

Sometime if it is close to the head, you can massage it to loosen it up a little. If that doesn't work, you probably have to pitch it sadly enough.

Nothing worse than puffing a lancero to death. When they burn hot the flavor goes south real quick.

The Illusione and Tatuaje lanceros I have smoked have drawn fine, same with the DPG blue label lanceros. I have had some tight el triunfador though.

Raralith · 05-23-2009, 03:56 PM

Maybe you should try a lonsdale which has a bit more ring guage but not much more.

sikk50 · 05-23-2009, 04:19 PM

I've only had a few lanceris and they all seemed really plugged to me so I've really just stopped buying them. I'm worried they'll be plugged and I'll be wasting my money, which in cali is a tad more. So I personaly rather find a nice PC then chance more Lanceros

BeerAdvocate · 05-23-2009, 04:26 PM

Tat El Triunfador

AD720 · 05-23-2009, 04:32 PM

The V lancero is pretty much the top of the class for me.

Raralith · 05-23-2009, 05:10 PM

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Originally Posted by BeerAdvocate

Tat El Triunfador

Oh yeah, danny on these forums gave me one I think, and it was an amazing lancero. The Oliva V comes in on a close second.

SeanGAR · 05-23-2009, 06:04 PM

The Olivia V is tops for NC lancero in my books, I also like the JdN Antanos from time to time, most of these have smoked well. DPG makes some nice ones I've enjoyed all of the ones from his lines I've had. Gran Habano Corojo No 5 is one I've had few of but they have also been tasty. Fire corojo made a lancero (actually outside of the standard size but close) that I enjoy for a cheapie, under 2 bucks for sure. I bought the last couple of bundles Famous had so I'm not sure if they can be had anywhere now. The Taboo lanceros I've had are also very nice, I forget what wrapper, corojo or criollo I think.

RevSmoke · 05-23-2009, 04:47 PM

I have only had one brand of Lancero that drew like a wooden dowel, and I won't mention which one it was - but all 5 that I tried drew that way.

montecristo#2 · 05-23-2009, 04:53 PM

I know Padron makes some thinner RG cigars as well. I don't think I have ever had a Padron that did not draw well.

alley00p · 05-23-2009, 05:01 PM

Personally, I love the Oliva V and LX2 lanceros, Todd. I haven't had too many others that I know well enough to recommend.

I've also been trying some of the smaller ring gauge churchills - I'm smoking a Taboo HSG churchill right now that is excellent.

SmokinApe · 05-23-2009, 06:38 PM

'nuff said...

wayner123 · 05-23-2009, 07:27 PM

I have tried pretty much every NC lancero/panatela there is or was. Not bragging, just that size has always been my favorite vitola. The best to me have been (in no particular order):

Hirsh y Garcia lancero/panatela ~ $10 ea.
Reserva Mira Flor lancero ~ $7 ea.
Habanos Torres 20yr lancero ~ $15 ea.
Non Cello Oliva V lancero ~ $5 ea.
Original Release Padilla 1932 lancero ~ $10 ea.
Casa Fernandez Lancero ~ $6 ea.
Opus X petite Lancero ~$12 ea.

Although I am a Pepin whore, I find that his personal lines of lancero's are lacking. The same with Tatuaje (Pete Johnson) lancero's.

RevSmoke · 05-23-2009, 07:45 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SmokinApe

'nuff said...

OK, so where can I get one of those? And how much will it cost me?

SmokinApe · 05-25-2009, 09:35 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by RevSmoke

OK, so where can I get one of those? And how much will it cost me?

75$ at Holts.com

md4958 · 05-23-2009, 07:46 PM

Todd, try the My Father Lancero by Pepin

. Its the only My Father I care for. For CCs you gotta try some LGCs!!

huero71 · 05-24-2009, 11:27 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BeerAdvocate

Tat El Triunfador

I'll second that...

Quote:

Originally Posted by md4958

Todd, try the My Father Lancero by Pepin

. Its the only My Father I care for. For CCs you gotta try some LGCs!!

and that....

G G · 05-23-2009, 08:03 PM

I have only smoked a few lanceros, and I haven't had a good experience with them. Entirely my fault I think, because I tent to smoke them too fast and get em hot.

05-23-2009, 03:34 PM	#1
RevSmoke Ain't Never Gonna Leave Join Date: Oct 2008 First Name: Todd Location: Northcentral woods of Wisconsin Posts: 6,848 Trading: (51)	Lancero question OK, I am really enjoying my Oliva V Lanceros - got a 5er of them. Was never much of a small ring gauge smoker, and not normally a fan of long smokes. I have had some, really enjoyed them, but for whatever reason they never became popular with me. I have picked up a couple Taboo lanceros, and they were also good. I had a Trinidad Fundadore, and that was also excellent. I must say, I like the way the wrapper leaf is highlighted in a well-rolled Lancero. And that brings me to my dilemna. I have found a few Lanceros which have caused me to turn my head inside out trying to get a minimal amount of smoke, as they drew like a good wooden dowel. What would you suggest for Lanceros that are consistently tasty, highlighting a unique taste or wrapper leaf, and which have never (or rarely) cause you draw issues? Give an average price expectancy for them as well. Thanks. __________________ Todd__ "Smoke what you like, and enjoy it!"

05-23-2009, 03:44 PM	#3
gnukfu I like cigars Join Date: Oct 2008 First Name: George Location: Massholia Posts: 1,466 Trading: (27)	Re: Lancero question DPG Blue and Black Lanceros are very good Todd...price would vary greatly depending on where you buy em. I would guess anywhere from 6-12 dollars depending on if you got a deal online or got em at a local B&M. __________________ Curious George

05-23-2009, 03:48 PM	#4
montecristo#2 Don't Taze me Bro! Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: SF Bay Area Posts: 1,063 Trading: (49)	Re: Lancero question What RH are you storing them at? I keep all of my cigars at 65% and while I have definitely had tight lanceros, for the most part mine smoke fine. Sometime if it is close to the head, you can massage it to loosen it up a little. If that doesn't work, you probably have to pitch it sadly enough. Nothing worse than puffing a lancero to death. When they burn hot the flavor goes south real quick. The Illusione and Tatuaje lanceros I have smoked have drawn fine, same with the DPG blue label lanceros. I have had some tight el triunfador though.

05-23-2009, 03:56 PM	#5
Raralith Death to the Unbelievers Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: Southern California Posts: 475 Trading: (24)	Re: Lancero question Maybe you should try a lonsdale which has a bit more ring guage but not much more.

05-23-2009, 04:19 PM	#6
sikk50 Just Bored Really... Join Date: Oct 2008 First Name: Andrew Location: The Jefferson State Posts: 2,084 Trading: (13)	Re: Lancero question I've only had a few lanceris and they all seemed really plugged to me so I've really just stopped buying them. I'm worried they'll be plugged and I'll be wasting my money, which in cali is a tad more. So I personaly rather find a nice PC then chance more Lanceros __________________ "Not a Headache in a Hogshead"

05-23-2009, 03:42 PM	#2
Ender Ok, maybe just one. Join Date: Oct 2008 First Name: Andrew Location: Michigan Posts: 771 Trading: (1)	Re: Lancero question Cubao lanceros are awesome as are the CAO LX2's if you can find em', HDM has a good one too. Keep in mind they are a "sippnig" vitola and you don't wanna puff them too hard. People often complain that they don't get as much smoke as they are used to but I still find it worth it. __________________ You can't talk your way out of problems you behave yourself into.

05-23-2009, 04:26 PM	#7
BeerAdvocate BeerHunter Join Date: Mar 2009 First Name: Travis Location: Topeka, KS Posts: 1,912 Trading: (45)	Re: Lancero question Tat El Triunfador __________________ *I Brew the Beer I Drink*

05-23-2009, 04:32 PM	#8
AD720 I'm nuts for the place Join Date: Oct 2008 First Name: Andrew Location: The City of BOTL-erly Love Posts: 2,684 Trading: (73)	Re: Lancero question The V lancero is pretty much the top of the class for me. __________________

05-23-2009, 06:04 PM	#10
SeanGAR Crotchety Geezer Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: Radford VA Posts: 911 Trading: (3)	Re: Lancero question The Olivia V is tops for NC lancero in my books, I also like the JdN Antanos from time to time, most of these have smoked well. DPG makes some nice ones I've enjoyed all of the ones from his lines I've had. Gran Habano Corojo No 5 is one I've had few of but they have also been tasty. Fire corojo made a lancero (actually outside of the standard size but close) that I enjoy for a cheapie, under 2 bucks for sure. I bought the last couple of bundles Famous had so I'm not sure if they can be had anywhere now. The Taboo lanceros I've had are also very nice, I forget what wrapper, corojo or criollo I think. __________________ How can you have any pudding if you don't eat your meat?

05-23-2009, 04:47 PM	#11
RevSmoke Ain't Never Gonna Leave Join Date: Oct 2008 First Name: Todd Location: Northcentral woods of Wisconsin Posts: 6,848 Trading: (51)	Re: Lancero question I have only had one brand of Lancero that drew like a wooden dowel, and I won't mention which one it was - but all 5 that I tried drew that way. __________________ Todd__ "Smoke what you like, and enjoy it!"

05-23-2009, 04:53 PM	#12
montecristo#2 Don't Taze me Bro! Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: SF Bay Area Posts: 1,063 Trading: (49)	Re: Lancero question I know Padron makes some thinner RG cigars as well. I don't think I have ever had a Padron that did not draw well.

05-23-2009, 05:01 PM	#13
alley00p Adopted MassHole Join Date: Oct 2008 First Name: Charlie Location: HOCKEYTOWN! Posts: 1,770 Trading: (41)	Re: Lancero question Personally, I love the Oliva V and LX2 lanceros, Todd. I haven't had too many others that I know well enough to recommend. I've also been trying some of the smaller ring gauge churchills - I'm smoking a Taboo HSG churchill right now that is excellent. __________________ Alley00p - I may be a FOG, but I'm still trying to dance!! Just don't trip over my cane!

05-23-2009, 06:38 PM	#14
SmokinApe Have My Own Room Join Date: Oct 2008 First Name: Jeremy Posts: 1,267 Trading: (35)	Re: Lancero question 'nuff said...

05-23-2009, 07:27 PM	#15
wayner123 Country Gentleman Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: Deltona, FL Posts: 2,351 Trading: (159)	Re: Lancero question I have tried pretty much every NC lancero/panatela there is or was. Not bragging, just that size has always been my favorite vitola. The best to me have been (in no particular order): Hirsh y Garcia lancero/panatela ~ $10 ea. Reserva Mira Flor lancero ~ $7 ea. Habanos Torres 20yr lancero ~ $15 ea. Non Cello Oliva V lancero ~ $5 ea. Original Release Padilla 1932 lancero ~ $10 ea. Casa Fernandez Lancero ~ $6 ea. Opus X petite Lancero ~$12 ea. Although I am a Pepin whore, I find that his personal lines of lancero's are lacking. The same with Tatuaje (Pete Johnson) lancero's. __________________ 'It is an honor for a man to keep aloof from strife; But every fool will be quarrelling.'

05-23-2009, 07:46 PM	#18
md4958 Captain Cannoli Join Date: Oct 2008 First Name: Moe Location: Suffield, CT Posts: 5,712 Trading: (62)	Re: Lancero question Todd, try the My Father Lancero by Pepin . Its the only My Father I care for. For CCs you gotta try some LGCs!! __________________ "One fart can foul the air for everyone" - Esteemed philosopher "If avoiding the nasty $hit is being a snob, them I am guilty as charged."- Same esteemed philosopher.

05-23-2009, 08:03 PM	#20
G G BR549 Join Date: Oct 2008 First Name: Greg Location: Taylor, FL. Posts: 12,725 Trading: (10)	Re: Lancero question I have only smoked a few lanceros, and I haven't had a good experience with them. Entirely my fault I think, because I tent to smoke them too fast and get em hot.