Cigar Asylum Cigar Forum  

Go Back   Cigar Asylum Cigar Forum > Cigar Forums > Cigar Discussion > All Cigar Discussion

Reply
 
Thread Tools Display Modes
Old 11-18-2008, 10:49 PM   #1
auburnfan1980
Guest
 
Posts: n/a
Default Everyone please read

After talking it over with the mods early this morning, I've decided to post a public explanation as well as apology to all affected in a situation so I can move forward on this new forum and try my best to enjoy my time here.

I received a private message last night that I will post here, but the sender's name will remain anonymous:

Quote:
I just saw one of your posts and read your intro to CA. I'm not trying to be an asshole, but your "hiatus" from CS wasn't exactly self-imposed. I'm glad you can get a fresh start on this new board, but please be aware that several people know know why you went on "temporary ban" there. It's upsetting to see you get a clean slate here without ever apologizing for or explaining your non-payment in the contest (last March) on CS.
Let me clarify: After the end of the first quarter of 2008, I was going through a few difficult struggles in both my personal/professional life. I'm not going to elaborate on what those struggles were, because it's noone's business other than to know that it was possibly the toughest time in my life that I've ever endured. It was during this time that I decided to take a "hiatus" from Club Stogie, as it was consuming a large quantity of my time and with the imminent failure of a start up cigar shop, I needed to get away from the "scene" for a while. Where I went wrong was having a "damn-it-all" attitude, and leaving without making sure I had any open obligations to anyone on the forum at the time. I was registered in the CS Lottery and though I had assumed my announcement to leave the board was sufficient in withdrawing from the lottery, I was incorrect...leaving my 5'er owed to the winner (yourchoice) unpaid, but graciously taken care of by pnoon himself. I'll try to make a long story short, but after two months, I tried to log into the site for the first time, only to find that I was banned. (Please note: not one time did I receive a personal email notifying me of being banned or reminding me of failure to pay my obligation....all notices were contained within the site which I had not visited.) I had several emails exchanged back and forth with the site owner, took some things he said personally, said some things I didn't mean since I felt he was insulting me, and to be honest...we both made ourselves look like asses.

I recognize I was at fault in this situation, but I desperately want everyone to know that this was an HONEST mistake as my family's health and my personal financial welfare was at stake during this time and (no offense) in no way was I remotely concerned with an online forum community when it came to family. I should not have left so suddenly without making sure ALL obligations had been met, and yes, that is completely my fault and noone else's. I deeply regret my lax judgement and it's apparent that many of you I used to call friend are still holding a grudge against me for this mistake.

I've contacted all parties involved personally, and have taken the necessary steps to make things right. This is a new forum, NOT Club Stogie, and I will not put up with messages such as the one listed above. I'm publicly humbling myself and asking everyone's forgiveness if your trust in me was damaged by this situation or you feel personally hurt and/or betrayed by it. The thing I'm most hurt by is the fact that several of you had gotten to know me, actually met me at a couple of different herfs, and after months of building a great reputation amongst our friends, had my integrity questioned because of a mistake like this. If the relationship between us has been permanently damaged, I'm truly sorry and I hope you'll eventually forgive me, but I'm moving on. I'm here on a new forum, with a new outlook on life, and I don't need the past thrown in my face every time I turn around. If you can't handle this, I'm washing my hands of the matter right here. However, if several of you all feel the same was as the brother who sent me this message and cannot accept my apology, please be completely honest and say so in response to this. If I feel it will be detrimental to the enjoyment of the forum for any of you if I were to stay here, I'll gladly find another place to congregate with like-minded men/women, though I'd really love to stay.

That's all I've got, so if you have a frustration with me, now's the time...air it out...I'm a big boy and I'm ready to put it behind us, so let's hear it, and hopefully those of you affected can forgive me.

Sincerely,

Jason (Auburnfan1980)
  Reply With Quote
Old 11-18-2008, 10:58 PM   #2
SmokeyJoe
Chief Wannastogie Lounge
 
SmokeyJoe's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2008
First Name: Joe
Location: Raleigh, NC
Posts: 3,163
Trading: (28)
VR
SmokeyJoe has much to be proud ofSmokeyJoe has much to be proud ofSmokeyJoe has much to be proud ofSmokeyJoe has much to be proud ofSmokeyJoe has much to be proud ofSmokeyJoe has much to be proud ofSmokeyJoe has much to be proud ofSmokeyJoe has much to be proud of
Default Re: Everyone please read

Glad you are stepping up now... and the explanation was necessary to start fresh. Hope you enjoy the Asylum.
__________________
"I intend to smoke a good cigar to the glory of God..." ~ Charles H. Spurgeon, British Baptist preacher
SmokeyJoe is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 11-18-2008, 11:02 PM   #3
dcamacho
Guest
 
Posts: n/a
Default Re: Everyone please read

things happen all the time .... and there's way to many great cigars and way to many great people to live life on the past or with grudges or even pass a chance of meeting someone you can call a friend. i respect how you're reaching out to your BOTL , i wish u all the best man!
  Reply With Quote
Old 11-18-2008, 11:05 PM   #4
BamBam
Just Pipin'
 
BamBam's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2008
Posts: 1,299
Trading: (37)
Montecristo
BamBam will become famous soon enoughBamBam will become famous soon enough
Default Re: Everyone please read

I don't know you so I got no beef with you. You're mannin up to your mistakes and that's good enough for me.

My only curiosity is if you ever re-paid pnoon for taking care of your mistake?
BamBam is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 11-18-2008, 11:21 PM   #5
auburnfan1980
Guest
 
Posts: n/a
Default Re: Everyone please read

Quote:
Originally Posted by BamBam View Post
I don't know you so I got no beef with you. You're mannin up to your mistakes and that's good enough for me.

My only curiosity is if you ever re-paid pnoon for taking care of your mistake?
I was told to "pay-it-forward" and bomb the hell outta somebody.
  Reply With Quote
Old 11-18-2008, 11:24 PM   #6
BamBam
Just Pipin'
 
BamBam's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2008
Posts: 1,299
Trading: (37)
Montecristo
BamBam will become famous soon enoughBamBam will become famous soon enough
Default Re: Everyone please read

Quote:
Originally Posted by auburnfan1980 View Post
I was told to "pay-it-forward" and bomb the hell outta somebody.
Doesn't get any better than that.

Welcome to CA. Glad you're here and I think you handled everything awesome.

You made a mistake and owned up to it. What more can we expect.

If anyone can't let it go then that's what the Ignore function is for
BamBam is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 11-19-2008, 09:51 AM   #7
Don Fernando
Postwhore
 
Don Fernando's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2008
First Name: Ferdinand
Location: Singapore
Posts: 10,068
Trading: (29)
Army (Retired)
Don Fernando has much to be proud ofDon Fernando has much to be proud ofDon Fernando has much to be proud ofDon Fernando has much to be proud ofDon Fernando has much to be proud ofDon Fernando has much to be proud ofDon Fernando has much to be proud ofDon Fernando has much to be proud ofDon Fernando has much to be proud of
Default Re: Everyone please read

Quote:
Originally Posted by auburnfan1980 View Post
I was told to "pay-it-forward" and bomb the hell outta somebody.
I will send you some addresses, just as a little help (Perry, you're going down!! )
__________________
check out my reviews on my blog.
Don Fernando is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 11-19-2008, 09:54 AM   #8
auburnfan1980
Guest
 
Posts: n/a
Default Re: Everyone please read

Quote:
Originally Posted by Don Fernando View Post
I will send you some addresses, just as a little help (Perry, you're going down!! )
Send em' on, Don....MsFloydP has already hooked me up with a couple...one of which is getting his a** handed to him very, very soon for being so hospitable

Jason
  Reply With Quote
Old 11-18-2008, 11:31 PM   #9
pnoon
YNWA
 
pnoon's Avatar
16
 
Join Date: Oct 2008
First Name: Peter
Location: San Diego
Posts: 29,919
Trading: (20)
RA
pnoon has disabled reputation
Default Re: Everyone please read

Quote:
Originally Posted by BamBam View Post
I don't know you so I got no beef with you. You're mannin up to your mistakes and that's good enough for me.

My only curiosity is if you ever re-paid pnoon for taking care of your mistake?
Jason and I have communicated extensively via PM. No "repayment" is expected or necessary.
__________________
Be more concerned with your character than your reputation, because your character is what you really are, while your reputation is merely what others think you are.
-John Wooden
pnoon is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 11-18-2008, 11:46 PM   #10
Ahbroody
Daddy x 4
 
Ahbroody's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2008
First Name: Mike
Location: San Jose
Posts: 3,708
Trading: (53)
HUpmann
Ahbroody has disabled reputation
Default Re: Everyone please read

welcome I also got no beef with any of this. Shiet happens. As long as you man up and make it right thats what matters.

Let he who is without error in life hold the grudge. Pretty sure anyone holding a grudge has probablly errored in life as well and wanted that to be forgiven. We all make mistakes it takes a man to accept his errors. It also takes a man to over look ones errors.
Ahbroody is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 11-19-2008, 12:41 AM   #11
icehog3
Admiral Douchebag
 
icehog3's Avatar
15
 
Join Date: Oct 2008
First Name: Tom
Location: Clermont, Kentucky
Posts: 71,307
Trading: (60)
HUpmann
icehog3 has disabled reputation
Default Re: Everyone please read

To the fresh start, Jason.
__________________


Thanks Dave, Julian, James, Kelly, Peter, Gerry, Dave, Mo, Frank, Týr and Mr. Mark!
icehog3 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 11-19-2008, 01:11 AM   #12
bobarian
Cranky Habanophile
 
bobarian's Avatar
3
 
Join Date: Oct 2008
Location: Wine Country
Posts: 8,869
Trading: (51)
ERdM
bobarian has disabled reputation
Default Re: Everyone please read

Quote:
Originally Posted by icehog3 View Post
To the fresh start, Jason.
I know nothing of your past transgressions, but the fact that you are willing to step up and make a public apology is good enough for me. We all have made mistakes, its how we face them that shows the true person.
Welcome to the Asylum.
bobarian is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 11-19-2008, 07:16 AM   #13
groogs
Have My Own Room
 
groogs's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2008
First Name: Grant
Posts: 1,945
Trading: (62)
Trinidad
groogs will become famous soon enoughgroogs will become famous soon enough
Default Re: Everyone please read

Quote:
Originally Posted by bobarian View Post
I know nothing of your past transgressions, but the fact that you are willing to step up and make a public apology is good enough for me. We all have made mistakes, its how we face them that shows the true person.
Welcome to the Asylum.
Welcome to CA.
groogs is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 11-19-2008, 07:24 AM   #14
Smokin Gator
Just plain insane!
 
Smokin Gator's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2008
Location: The Swamp
Posts: 6,237
Trading: (106)
Partagas
Smokin Gator is a splendid one to beholdSmokin Gator is a splendid one to beholdSmokin Gator is a splendid one to beholdSmokin Gator is a splendid one to beholdSmokin Gator is a splendid one to beholdSmokin Gator is a splendid one to beholdSmokin Gator is a splendid one to beholdSmokin Gator is a splendid one to behold
Default Re: Everyone please read

Whatever your past transgressions were... I think the way you have handled in here is a good model for anyone. Congrats on being here brother!!
__________________
Check out the Cigar Asylum Newbie Sampler Trade
Smokin Gator is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 11-19-2008, 07:35 AM   #15
Cigarcop
Wishin I Was Fishin
 
Cigarcop's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2008
Location: Pa, In a treestand
Posts: 1,434
Trading: (40)
HdM
Cigarcop has disabled reputation
Default Re: Everyone please read

I agree with all the above and don't know the extent of it all, but it does take a big man to fess up and if all goes well you'll be herfin again with friends.

Good luck and welcome to CA
Cigarcop is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 11-19-2008, 07:38 AM   #16
poker
1:11
 
poker's Avatar
2
 
Join Date: Oct 2008
First Name: Kelly
Location: SoCal
Posts: 5,280
Trading: (7)
Cohiba
poker has disabled reputation
Default Re: Everyone please read

And thats the way its done. Nice to see you man up and make amends.
Welcome to a fresh start here.
__________________

Cigar Asylum: A cigar board birthed without agendas, without profiting, and without advertisements. Amor puro


Character is what you do when no one is watching
poker is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 11-19-2008, 07:39 AM   #17
dunng
MassHole
 
dunng's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2008
First Name: Greg
Location: MassHole
Posts: 4,719
Trading: (59)
Bolivar
dunng has disabled reputation
Default Re: Everyone please read

Welcome to the Asylum! How's the store doing?
__________________
MassHole Banter
dunng is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 11-19-2008, 07:40 AM   #18
SeanGAR
Crotchety Geezer
 
SeanGAR's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2008
Location: Radford VA
Posts: 911
Trading: (3)
SeanGAR has disabled reputation
Default Re: Everyone please read

I still have a big problem here ... you haven't apologized for being an Auburn fan.

I want to see video of you doing an enthusiastic job of a GATOR CHOMP.

The rest ... well, you manned up.. I hope your troubles are behind you.
__________________
How can you have any pudding if you don't eat your meat?
SeanGAR is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 11-19-2008, 07:48 AM   #19
auburnfan1980
Guest
 
Posts: n/a
Default Re: Everyone please read

Quote:
Originally Posted by SeanGAR View Post
I still have a big problem here ... you haven't apologized for being an Auburn fan.

I want to see video of you doing an enthusiastic job of a GATOR CHOMP.

The rest ... well, you manned up.. I hope your troubles are behind you.

My troubles aren't behind me....have you seen the way we've played this year?!? There's been a lot of going around on Saturdays this year, i'm afraid. Don't tempt me about the gator chomp....I mean, I have no problem with you guys...seems Auburn is the one team you guys can't beat!

Jason
  Reply With Quote
Old 11-19-2008, 10:21 AM   #20
theycallmedan'lboone
Guest
 
Posts: n/a
Default Re: Everyone please read

Quote:
Originally Posted by auburnfan1980 View Post
My troubles aren't behind me....have you seen the way we've played this year?!? There's been a lot of going around on Saturdays this year, i'm afraid. Don't tempt me about the gator chomp....I mean, I have no problem with you guys...seems Auburn is the one team you guys can't beat!

Jason

Jason, glad you're here, and don't I feel your Orange and Blue pain. one more game friend, one more.
  Reply With Quote
Reply


Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Forum Jump


All times are GMT -6. The time now is 08:51 AM.


Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.7.4
Copyright ©2000 - 2024, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.
All content is copyrighted jointly by Cigar Asylum and the content provider.