Coolidor seal

ApexAZ · 12-18-2011, 11:17 PM

I have a 120qt cooler that I'm filling up slowly but surely and it seems to be needing water every few weeks. I have 1 lb of 65 heartfelt beads in it and I open it every 3-4 days on avg. Should it be needing water so often? Has anyone successfully improved the seal on this type of cooler? If so, what type of materials were used? Silicone? Weather stripping? Tape?

Any advice would be greatly appreciated!

Bill86 · 12-18-2011, 11:19 PM

Which model is it? I used a 120 quart coleman and it was rock solid. I did have 2 pounds of heartfelt beads in it though.

ApexAZ · 12-18-2011, 11:37 PM

Sorry I meant to provide the model, but forgot apparently. It's a coleman xtreme 5 day cooler. Perhaps another pound of beads is in order.

Bill86 · 12-18-2011, 11:48 PM

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Originally Posted by ApexAZ

Sorry I meant to provide the model, but forgot apparently. It's a coleman xtreme 5 day cooler. Perhaps another pound of beads is in order.

Yeah that's the same one I have. Never had a problem with it. Might need an extra half pound or pound of beads. Heartfelt has a calculator, I'd check it out. Certainly couldn't hurt to have more though.

NCRadioMan · 12-19-2011, 10:58 AM

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Originally Posted by ApexAZ

Sorry I meant to provide the model, but forgot apparently. It's a coleman xtreme 5 day cooler. Perhaps another pound of beads is in order.

I have 5 of those. Something is wrong somewhere. I just use a .93 cent water pillow in each of mine (don't know why anyone would spend more than what's needed) and I check them about once every 3 months or so. Rock steady at 65.

MedicCook · 12-18-2011, 11:43 PM

The real thin foam weather stripping works on some coolers where the seal is not great. I have noticed a lot of coolers that are wide open in the back along the hinge.

12-19-2011, 12:33 AM

How many cigars do you have in there? A lbs. should be more than enough IMO, and I go months without having to add water to my HF beads.

ApexAZ · 12-19-2011, 08:47 AM

I've only filled about 1/3 so far.

Chainsaw13 · 12-19-2011, 08:56 AM

I see you're in AZ, but looking at the temps there, it's getting colder at nights. Are you running any type of forced air furnace? I know when i run the furnace during the winter months at my house, I have to add my active humidification system in my cabinet, along with 2lbs of HCM beads. During months with the furnace off, I just use the beads alone without any issues.

chaase321 · 12-19-2011, 10:27 AM

When I bought my cooler from Wally World it was around November so the end of cooler season and a limited number of coolers available. Therefore, I am not sure I got the pick of the litter...so to combat a possible failure in being able to keep the humidity correct I bought weather stripping that is used to seal windows.

Basically it was 1/4 in thick and I put it on the top of the lid and on the cooler. I was originally going to make a latch that would the lid closed, but instead just used my two 35# dumbells to hold it down.

My only concern was not having any air leak...opening for a smoke takes care of getting fresh air in there!

I do find that with 65% HF beads, my hygros are reading around 68-70 most of the time. Probably a little too tight of a seal...but the stick taste great so no biggie there.

Good luck bro

ApexAZ · 12-19-2011, 11:25 AM

Alright. Thanks guys. I'll look into the weather seal.

bobarian · 12-19-2011, 12:42 PM

I doubt the seal is your problem. How many boxes are in your cooler? Are you using empty boxes to fill the excess space? Are you re-hydrating your beads because most have turned white or only because more than 1/3 are white? What kind of hygrometer are you using and where is it placed? Try putting the hygrometer inside one of the boxes for 24 hours and then get a reading.

A less than full cooler will force the beads to rehydrate the remaining air each time you open it up. In a dry climate like AZ this could mean bringing all the extra air from the low teens back up to 65% each time you open.

ktblunden · 12-19-2011, 01:38 PM

I have a 70 quart xtreme Coleman and that thing has been rock solid for me. I use silica kitty litter and I give my bags of those a spray every other week or so to keep the humidity where I like it. Mine is full to the brim though, so Bob may be on to something there. I've got extremely low ambient humidity here, so my conditions are pretty much the same as yours.

ApexAZ · 12-19-2011, 05:21 PM

So maybe I need more cedar to suck up moisture? I have 3 boxes in there, 2 trays of singles and several mazo's. If santa brings the new humidor I asked for, I will also be putting a whole 100 count bally II in there for long term single storage.

"Honey, my cooler isn't maintaining the 65% RH that I had expected. This means I will have to buy 10 more boxes of cigars or else I will risk ruining the ones I currently have..."

bobarian · 12-19-2011, 06:24 PM

Use empty boxes to fill the space. All wood is best like Tat or LFD boxes, but you can also use dress boxes if the others are not available. The mazos can be unwrapped and put into empty boxes but it isnt really necessary.

I would not put your new humidor in the cooler, just season it and put your singles inside.

chaase321 · 12-19-2011, 06:21 PM

oh that is sure to work!

backwoods357 · 12-19-2011, 08:23 PM

Same cooler in 48qt about 1/3 full as well, same problem. I took cellophane wrap and folded up to about 1/3" wide and ran it around the seal on the lid last week and threw in a couple extra lbs of beads. Seems to have helped.

ApexAZ · 12-19-2011, 08:39 PM

Not the new humidor, bur the crappy Bally glasstop that i currently have that is (hopefully) being replaced. I figure it wont need to hold a seal in the cooler. Unless you think it will cause problems. I couldn't really think of any problems, but that's why I come consult with you crazy folks.

backwoods357 · 12-19-2011, 09:04 PM

The leak on the glasstop is probably around the glass, I have a few write-ups here about removing the glass and sealing it with aquarium sealant.

ApexAZ · 12-19-2011, 09:13 PM

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Originally Posted by backwoods357

The leak on the glasstop is probably around the glass, I have a few write-ups here about removing the glass and sealing it with aquarium sealant.

Yes I did see that and considered it. Its a great write up! If for some reason I don't get a new one it wil be the first place I look

I will try the cellophane if the added cedar won't help! Thanks!

12-18-2011, 11:17 PM	#1
ApexAZ Wandering aimlessly Join Date: Oct 2011 First Name: Brian Location: Sonoran Desert Posts: 1,299 Trading: (10)	Coolidor seal I have a 120qt cooler that I'm filling up slowly but surely and it seems to be needing water every few weeks. I have 1 lb of 65 heartfelt beads in it and I open it every 3-4 days on avg. Should it be needing water so often? Has anyone successfully improved the seal on this type of cooler? If so, what type of materials were used? Silicone? Weather stripping? Tape? Any advice would be greatly appreciated!

12-18-2011, 11:19 PM	#2
Bill86 Snob Join Date: Jul 2010 First Name: Bill Posts: 6,704 Trading: (67)	Re: Coolidor seal Which model is it? I used a 120 quart coleman and it was rock solid. I did have 2 pounds of heartfelt beads in it though. __________________ I'm drunk......but I'll get drunker! - Doug Stanhope

12-18-2011, 11:37 PM	#3
ApexAZ Wandering aimlessly Join Date: Oct 2011 First Name: Brian Location: Sonoran Desert Posts: 1,299 Trading: (10)	Re: Coolidor seal Sorry I meant to provide the model, but forgot apparently. It's a coleman xtreme 5 day cooler. Perhaps another pound of beads is in order.

12-18-2011, 11:43 PM	#6
MedicCook Mila smoked my cigar Join Date: Jan 2009 First Name: Ryan Location: Schaghticoke, NY Posts: 10,946 Trading: (7)	Re: Coolidor seal The real thin foam weather stripping works on some coolers where the seal is not great. I have noticed a lot of coolers that are wide open in the back along the hinge. __________________ 27 World Series Championship's "If your wife doesn't like the aroma of your cigar, change your wife.", Zino Davidoff

12-19-2011, 12:33 AM	#7
thecatch83 Guest Posts: n/a	Re: Coolidor seal How many cigars do you have in there? A lbs. should be more than enough IMO, and I go months without having to add water to my HF beads.

12-19-2011, 08:47 AM	#8
ApexAZ Wandering aimlessly Join Date: Oct 2011 First Name: Brian Location: Sonoran Desert Posts: 1,299 Trading: (10)	Re: Coolidor seal I've only filled about 1/3 so far.

12-19-2011, 08:56 AM	#9
Chainsaw13 Møøse bites can be nasty Join Date: Jan 2010 First Name: Bob Location: The Enchanted Mitten Posts: 7,166 Trading: (96)	Re: Coolidor seal I see you're in AZ, but looking at the temps there, it's getting colder at nights. Are you running any type of forced air furnace? I know when i run the furnace during the winter months at my house, I have to add my active humidification system in my cabinet, along with 2lbs of HCM beads. During months with the furnace off, I just use the beads alone without any issues. __________________ My neighbor came by my house this morning at 2AM, pounding on the door. Good thing I was still up playing the drums.

12-19-2011, 10:27 AM	#10
chaase321 ZOTL's mmmmm brainssss Join Date: Oct 2011 First Name: Cole Location: Woodbridge VA Posts: 2,114 Trading: (81)	Re: Coolidor seal When I bought my cooler from Wally World it was around November so the end of cooler season and a limited number of coolers available. Therefore, I am not sure I got the pick of the litter...so to combat a possible failure in being able to keep the humidity correct I bought weather stripping that is used to seal windows. Basically it was 1/4 in thick and I put it on the top of the lid and on the cooler. I was originally going to make a latch that would the lid closed, but instead just used my two 35# dumbells to hold it down. My only concern was not having any air leak...opening for a smoke takes care of getting fresh air in there! I do find that with 65% HF beads, my hygros are reading around 68-70 most of the time. Probably a little too tight of a seal...but the stick taste great so no biggie there. Good luck bro __________________ ZOTL our appetites will ALWAYS be bigger than your braaaiiiins... Support the Troop Support Contest 2014!!!

12-19-2011, 11:25 AM	#11
ApexAZ Wandering aimlessly Join Date: Oct 2011 First Name: Brian Location: Sonoran Desert Posts: 1,299 Trading: (10)	Re: Coolidor seal Alright. Thanks guys. I'll look into the weather seal.

12-19-2011, 12:42 PM	#12
bobarian Cranky Habanophile Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: Wine Country Posts: 8,869 Trading: (51)	Re: Coolidor seal I doubt the seal is your problem. How many boxes are in your cooler? Are you using empty boxes to fill the excess space? Are you re-hydrating your beads because most have turned white or only because more than 1/3 are white? What kind of hygrometer are you using and where is it placed? Try putting the hygrometer inside one of the boxes for 24 hours and then get a reading. A less than full cooler will force the beads to rehydrate the remaining air each time you open it up. In a dry climate like AZ this could mean bringing all the extra air from the low teens back up to 65% each time you open.

12-19-2011, 01:38 PM	#13
ktblunden Adjusting to the Life Join Date: Sep 2011 First Name: Kevin Location: Lancaster, CA Posts: 350 Trading: (6)	Re: Coolidor seal I have a 70 quart xtreme Coleman and that thing has been rock solid for me. I use silica kitty litter and I give my bags of those a spray every other week or so to keep the humidity where I like it. Mine is full to the brim though, so Bob may be on to something there. I've got extremely low ambient humidity here, so my conditions are pretty much the same as yours.

12-19-2011, 05:21 PM	#14
ApexAZ Wandering aimlessly Join Date: Oct 2011 First Name: Brian Location: Sonoran Desert Posts: 1,299 Trading: (10)	Re: Coolidor seal So maybe I need more cedar to suck up moisture? I have 3 boxes in there, 2 trays of singles and several mazo's. If santa brings the new humidor I asked for, I will also be putting a whole 100 count bally II in there for long term single storage. "Honey, my cooler isn't maintaining the 65% RH that I had expected. This means I will have to buy 10 more boxes of cigars or else I will risk ruining the ones I currently have..."

12-19-2011, 06:24 PM	#15
bobarian Cranky Habanophile Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: Wine Country Posts: 8,869 Trading: (51)	Re: Coolidor seal Use empty boxes to fill the space. All wood is best like Tat or LFD boxes, but you can also use dress boxes if the others are not available. The mazos can be unwrapped and put into empty boxes but it isnt really necessary. I would not put your new humidor in the cooler, just season it and put your singles inside.

12-19-2011, 06:21 PM	#16
chaase321 ZOTL's mmmmm brainssss Join Date: Oct 2011 First Name: Cole Location: Woodbridge VA Posts: 2,114 Trading: (81)	Re: Coolidor seal oh that is sure to work! __________________ ZOTL our appetites will ALWAYS be bigger than your braaaiiiins... Support the Troop Support Contest 2014!!!

12-19-2011, 08:23 PM	#17
backwoods357 Adjusting to the Life Join Date: Mar 2011 First Name: Jorgen Location: Charlotte, NC Posts: 349 Trading: (14)	Re: Coolidor seal Same cooler in 48qt about 1/3 full as well, same problem. I took cellophane wrap and folded up to about 1/3" wide and ran it around the seal on the lid last week and threw in a couple extra lbs of beads. Seems to have helped.

12-19-2011, 08:39 PM	#18
ApexAZ Wandering aimlessly Join Date: Oct 2011 First Name: Brian Location: Sonoran Desert Posts: 1,299 Trading: (10)	Re: Coolidor seal Not the new humidor, bur the crappy Bally glasstop that i currently have that is (hopefully) being replaced. I figure it wont need to hold a seal in the cooler. Unless you think it will cause problems. I couldn't really think of any problems, but that's why I come consult with you crazy folks.

12-19-2011, 09:04 PM	#19
backwoods357 Adjusting to the Life Join Date: Mar 2011 First Name: Jorgen Location: Charlotte, NC Posts: 349 Trading: (14)	Re: Coolidor seal The leak on the glasstop is probably around the glass, I have a few write-ups here about removing the glass and sealing it with aquarium sealant.