TIM TEBOW .......... lol

Lets here all your thought on the most talked about sports athlete in the nation

[Remo]

He's a winner, gotta give him that!

[ktblunden]

Originally Posted by Remo_5_0

He's a winner, gotta give him that!

Almost accidentally at times. It's a shame that Cam Newton set almost every rookie qb record in the league this season and he was overshadowed by a guy whose throwing is abysmal and manages to win by the skin of his teeth time and time again. I'm not a fan of either the Panthers or Broncos, but I have to give it to both qbs for having amazing seasons (if for different reasons).

[OLS]

Since you asked, I hated him throughout college. I am not against religion, I just have no use for it
and no use for people that won't shut up about it.
But now that he is a pro, and EVERYONE who claims to know football and some who don't are lining
up to lay out his career on a chart and use words like 'never' and 'impossible' and I kinda started pulling
for him pretty hard. For those who say his throwing is abysmal, I would say it was the most abysmal
one throw overtime in NFL history. Ugly yes. WAY too complicated looking, sure. But however he launches
it down the field, he has been connecting an awfully high percentage of his crappy passes lately, and with
a tiny interception percentage. What he has lacked in accuracy his recievers have made up for with effort.

All that said, not sure if I like him now or not, but I am far past hating him. By the time you get this
far into the season, football has to try pretty hard to be interesting to me. It's kind of like the Saints
or nothing for me. And LSU got....well, there is no truly effective word to properly convey WHAT they got.
But they sure got it. So this Tebow angle at least had me watching a playoff game I couldn't really care less
about.

I think I would rather have a qb that can win ugly then a record breaking statistic pounding pretty boy who cant win idk my opinion

[shilala]

Originally Posted by Macadron

I think I would rather have a qb that can win ugly then a record breaking statistic pounding pretty boy who cant win idk my opinion

Denver was 8-8 playing in a division where no one played better than .500.
Carolina went 6 and 10 in one of the toughest divisons in the NFL and lost five games by a td or less.
Cam Newton not only won, he won against greater odds against much better teams and put up numbers that were stellar for ANY veteran qb.
The two don't remotely compare statistically or by skillset.
I won't even throw Newton's numbers up there against Tebow's because it'd be embarrasing to Tebow.
That said, Tebow has huge heart and he's got John Elway to work with him all off-season. He didn't have that benefit this past summer because of the lockout, or I think he'd have fared much better. I think he'll do big things, but in Elway fashion.
Cam Newton is an INCREDIBLE athlete, plus he's a precision passer.
His numbers, both throwing and rushing have put him in a category that has never existed in football. They can't even rank him against the greats because his skillset is wider than any quarterback who has ever hit the field.
By far, his numbers from this season show that he is the most well-rounded quarterback that has ever walked on an NFL football field.
I'm not a Carolina fan and not a Denver fan, but the numbers are what they are and individual performance is what it is. If Cam Newton never played another down, he'd likely be enshrined in the HOF on this season alone, and it's been written about in volumes. His accomplishments are astronomical. Tebow's are not.

Denver is in the playoffs and Carolina is not. Carolina was not prepared to make a run. They're building. Denver has been building for years and they're at the apex of what they've tried to accomplish, yet they backed into the playoffs and got lucky to get there. Denver is a huge football town, Carolina is not. If Tebow comes along in the offseason, Denver is going to make a statement next year.
Carolina will start building a team around Newton to make a run. They'll be competitive next year and likely turn into a powerhouse the year following.

Tebow made the very most of his opportunity against the Steelers and for that, he deserves applause. If he can keep his act together for another game, he'll really deserve some accolades. Beating good clubs in the playoffs is huge, and it'll earn him some deserved respect. If he can beat New England, I will be both shocked and impressed. Then I think he'll have earned some of the suction he's been getting.

[E.J.]

Originally Posted by shilala

Denver was 8-8 playing in a division where no one played better than .500.
Carolina went 6 and 10 in one of the toughest divisons in the NFL and lost five games by a td or less.

That is a bit misleading, as Tebow was 7-4 as a starter....the first 5 games of the season don't count. Two of Tebow's 4 losses were by a touchdown or less...

If given the opportunity, sure, I'd trade Newton for Tebow tomorrow....but when pulling stats, you have to be fair....

[Stephen]

Originally Posted by shilala

Cam Newton is an INCREDIBLE athlete, plus he's a precision passer.
His numbers, both throwing and rushing have put him in a category that has never existed in football. They can't even rank him against the greats because his skillset is wider than any quarterback who has ever hit the field.
By far, his numbers from this season show that he is the most well-rounded quarterback that has ever walked on an NFL football field.
I'm not a Carolina fan and not a Denver fan, but the numbers are what they are and individual performance is what it is. If Cam Newton never played another down, he'd likely be enshrined in the HOF on this season alone, and it's been written about in volumes. His accomplishments are astronomical.

Spoken like a man who rode Newton to a Fantasy Football Championship game appearance...

[shilala]

Originally Posted by Stephen

Spoken like a man who rode Newton to a Fantasy Football Championship game appearance...

I'd kiss him on the mouth.

And I absolutely LOVE how Tim Tebow expresses his Faith. I think he's an great human being. I just think he's a mediocre qb, for now.
I can't wait to see what he looks like next year after Elway has his way with him, I've said it earlier in this thread and have said it all year long. He definately suffered from the lockout.
His work ethic being what it is and Elway's being the same, there has to be a huge improvement in that club as a whole, not only from Tebow.
They need some good stick-em, too.

[taltos]

It seems that all of the dislike of Tebow is based on his religion but several players who have been with him for the season say that this is the way that he lives his like and it is not an act. He won a Heisman, he has not embarrassed his team and he got the team into the playoffs and won a game. I will give him a pass and hope that he plays well but doesn't win against the Pats. It seems that his faith is what kills most people but I have seen a general anti-Christian bias on several boards, not just this one which is why I do not spend as much time on the boards as I used to.

[Starscream]

Originally Posted by Macadron

I think I would rather have a qb that can win ugly then a record breaking statistic pounding pretty boy who cant win idk my opinion

Cam a pretty boy who can't win? The Panthers didn't lose games b/c of their offense. Defense and ST took a pounding this year, which is why they lost games.

[tupacboy]

gotta love the kid.. great role model... it may not be pretty... but he wins...

[ade06]

No matter how bad his throwing arm is, he's getting the job done and his team believes in him.

The man has no lack of heart that's for sure. He may not be the the most perfect in form but he sure does function.

[Blak Smyth]

What, no Rex Grossman thread?

[mmblz]

this week, I'll go with "he's been really lucky". any other week, I don't know/care

[mosesbotbol]

As a pure QB, I'd put him in 50-60 percentile, but making 2nd round of play-off’s can’t be brushed off like nothing. Let’s see when hopefully they’ll lose this weekend. Last week’s performance was solid and no one should take that away from him. When someone has a shtick like he does, it muddies the water on his true performance as people take it to heart.

[Taki]

http://tebowing.com/

He looked really good against the Steelers (sorry Ken)...well for about 3 or 4 throws

[Hem]

As much as people want to hate on the him, you can't help but admire his drive and heart when he plays. His team believes in him and if that's what it takes to win...then so be it. I would agree with ktblunden saying Cam had a LIGHTS OUT rookie year, imagine if he was on a team that could actually win???

[Blak Smyth]

Originally Posted by Taki

http://tebowing.com/

He looked really good against the Steelers (sorry Ken)...well for about 3 or 4 throws

This one made me laugh: