Excuse the rant...

12-04-2009, 07:44 PM

I want to make a brief comment and I apologize in advance if anyone gets upset and decides to neg rep me again....

That being said, I really don't understand some of the hatred/aggressiveness lately. I made a post in a thread that is now closed regarding if I should break up large shipments of CCs, no details were made, and I got a lot of constructive advice about it, both in the thread and in PMs after it was closed. This was what I was looking for, nothing detailed. Then a seriously aggressive inmate decided to trash me for the post, first claiming i must not have friends to ask about it, and then trashing me for how I handled the trashtalk. I requested to close the thread, and it was closed. Today I check my User CP and see that another inmate decided after the fact that now it was his job to police the threads and he neg repped me for the post, which was not illegal and skirted the rules quite well.

What is the deal with that, like seriously I have not made enemies here and have not been an ahole or rule breaker, and then people decide to be jerks? I thought this forum (and the cigar smoking community at large) was about brotherhood and friendship, but lately (this is not the only incident) there has been MEGA agro from some of the inmates...

What i mean to say is "CANT WE ALL JUST BE FRIENDS"? :-P

/end rant

pnoon · 12-04-2009, 08:20 PM

As an admin, I'll make a couple of comments here - for better or for worse.

1) RG means doodly-squat. Giving/getting - get over it. It means nothing. There are outstanding members here who have low RG. There are members here who have a way over-inflated RG. Bottom line. RG/rep is a way to communicate privately. Nothing more. Nothing less.

2) Doug - I'm not going to address the comments and feedback you received. That will only stir the pot. However, the thread you originally posted was perilously close to being against the rules. Discussing shipping practices of Cuban cigars is not permitted. Period. Your thread caught the attention of the admin team from the get go. We decided to leave it be and just observe. This is a perfect example of how we as mods/admins are damned if we do and damned if we don't. If we had shut it down immediately, we would have been criticized for being heavy handed. By letting it go, it went south and caused all sorts of grief for everyone.

3) As to who has or hasn't been a "jerk" in this whole mess is not factual but an opinion that is as differing as the answer to "what box of cigars should I buy?". Everyone involved has some accountability.

Understand that my post here is not personal but just a statement of how this played out.

Sauer Grapes · 12-04-2009, 08:24 PM

RG does mean diddly squat. I have low RG, Peter has high RG. Both of our farts stink.

pnoon · 12-04-2009, 08:34 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sauer Grapes

RG does mean diddly squat. I have low RG, Peter has high RG. Both of our farts stink.

Speak for yourself.

Sauer Grapes · 12-04-2009, 08:42 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by pnoon

Speak for yourself.

You must be drinking your fernet-branca.

yourchoice · 12-04-2009, 08:50 PM

Oooo Ooooo Ooooo Mr Kotter!!! My farts stink too!!!!

pnoon · 12-04-2009, 08:51 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sauer Grapes

You must be drinking your fernet-branca.

Actually, today, it's been shots of Hornitos and Sam Adams Oktoberfest.

bobarian · 12-04-2009, 08:36 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sauer Grapes

RG does mean diddly squat. I have low RG, Peter has high RG. Both of our farts stink.

That got you some bumpage!

pnoon · 12-04-2009, 08:37 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by bobarian

That got you some bumpage!

I didn't get any.

68TriShield · 12-04-2009, 08:42 PM

should I be worried about this doodly squat thing???

CasaDooley · 12-04-2009, 08:56 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 68TriShield

should I be worried about this doodly squat thing???

Only if it's followed by a

Good lord, I just noticed that emoticon is pn! A connection possibly

bobarian · 12-04-2009, 08:42 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by pnoon

I didn't get any.

Yours will earn you some negative RG!

markem · 12-04-2009, 09:32 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by pnoon

I didn't get any.

I'll have a talk with your better half when you come to visit.

pnoon · 12-04-2009, 09:36 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by markem

I'll have a talk with your better half when you come to visit.

Touché

Skywalker · 12-05-2009, 10:05 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by bobarian

That got you some bumpage!

T.G · 12-05-2009, 10:47 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sauer Grapes

RG does mean diddly squat. I have low RG, Peter has high RG. Both of our farts stink.

Quote:

Originally Posted by bobarian

That got you some bumpage!

(stinky-fart pile on bump!)

thebiglebowski · 12-05-2009, 09:42 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sauer Grapes

RG does mean diddly squat. I have low RG, Peter has high RG. Both of our farts stink.

wait, what? we have rep/RG??? where is this? honestly, i had no idea...

Kreth · 12-04-2009, 08:51 PM

Will I get neg-repped for pointing out that the phrase is "diddly-squat"?

Posted via Mobile Device

pnoon · 12-04-2009, 08:54 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Kreth

Will I get neg-repped for pointing out that the phrase is "diddly-squat"?

Posted via Mobile Device

Maybe for you it is. For me it's doodly-squat.

You squat your way. I'll squat mine.

madwilliamflint · 12-04-2009, 10:30 PM

As a nerd I've been on forums and discussion groups all over the place about all kinds of weirdness for almost 30 years.

It ALWAYS happens. Always. It's human nature in aggregate. You're going to get outliers.

Frankly since I started smoking (August this year was my first smoke ever; an R&J Numero Dos paired with a Chateau Lafitte Rothschild. No wonder I'm hooked.) I've found the cigar smoking community to consistently be far and above the most polite, interesting, helpful group of people I have ever encountered.

Ever. Anywhere.

And this place has been pretty high on the list within that category.

No. It doesn't excuse ill-tempered comment. But the net score is so damn high here. Let it roll off ya if you can. Tough when it's personal though, no doubt.

o/

12-04-2009, 07:44 PM	#1
DougBushBC Guest Posts: n/a	Excuse the rant... I want to make a brief comment and I apologize in advance if anyone gets upset and decides to neg rep me again.... That being said, I really don't understand some of the hatred/aggressiveness lately. I made a post in a thread that is now closed regarding if I should break up large shipments of CCs, no details were made, and I got a lot of constructive advice about it, both in the thread and in PMs after it was closed. This was what I was looking for, nothing detailed. Then a seriously aggressive inmate decided to trash me for the post, first claiming i must not have friends to ask about it, and then trashing me for how I handled the trashtalk. I requested to close the thread, and it was closed. Today I check my User CP and see that another inmate decided after the fact that now it was his job to police the threads and he neg repped me for the post, which was not illegal and skirted the rules quite well. What is the deal with that, like seriously I have not made enemies here and have not been an ahole or rule breaker, and then people decide to be jerks? I thought this forum (and the cigar smoking community at large) was about brotherhood and friendship, but lately (this is not the only incident) there has been MEGA agro from some of the inmates... What i mean to say is "CANT WE ALL JUST BE FRIENDS"? :-P /end rant

12-04-2009, 08:20 PM	#2
pnoon YNWA Join Date: Oct 2008 First Name: Peter Location: San Diego Posts: 29,919 Trading: (20)	Re: Excuse the rant... As an admin, I'll make a couple of comments here - for better or for worse. 1) RG means doodly-squat. Giving/getting - get over it. It means nothing. There are outstanding members here who have low RG. There are members here who have a way over-inflated RG. Bottom line. RG/rep is a way to communicate privately. Nothing more. Nothing less. 2) Doug - I'm not going to address the comments and feedback you received. That will only stir the pot. However, the thread you originally posted was perilously close to being against the rules. Discussing shipping practices of Cuban cigars is not permitted. Period. Your thread caught the attention of the admin team from the get go. We decided to leave it be and just observe. This is a perfect example of how we as mods/admins are damned if we do and damned if we don't. If we had shut it down immediately, we would have been criticized for being heavy handed. By letting it go, it went south and caused all sorts of grief for everyone. 3) As to who has or hasn't been a "jerk" in this whole mess is not factual but an opinion that is as differing as the answer to "what box of cigars should I buy?". Everyone involved has some accountability. Understand that my post here is not personal but just a statement of how this played out. __________________ Be more concerned with your character than your reputation, because your character is what you really are, while your reputation is merely what others think you are. -John Wooden

12-04-2009, 08:24 PM	#3
Sauer Grapes Snatchin' yo people up Join Date: Oct 2008 Posts: 2,235 Trading: (44)	Re: Excuse the rant... RG does mean diddly squat. I have low RG, Peter has high RG. Both of our farts stink.

12-04-2009, 08:50 PM	#6
yourchoice Down the stretch Join Date: Oct 2008 First Name: Joel Location: South Jersey Posts: 4,091 Trading: (36)	Re: Excuse the rant... Oooo Ooooo Ooooo Mr Kotter!!! My farts stink too!!!!

12-04-2009, 08:42 PM	#10
68TriShield Got Torque? Join Date: Oct 2008 First Name: Dave Location: Maryland Posts: 7,194 Trading: (40)	Re: Excuse the rant... should I be worried about this doodly squat thing???

12-04-2009, 08:51 PM	#18
Kreth Ronin smoker Join Date: Jan 2009 First Name: Jeff Location: Oneonta, NY Posts: 3,620 Trading: (14)	Re: Excuse the rant... Will I get neg-repped for pointing out that the phrase is "diddly-squat"? Posted via Mobile Device

12-04-2009, 10:30 PM	#20
madwilliamflint Cigar n00b Join Date: Sep 2009 First Name: Michael Location: Wallkill, NY Posts: 390 Trading: (0)	Re: Excuse the rant... As a nerd I've been on forums and discussion groups all over the place about all kinds of weirdness for almost 30 years. It ALWAYS happens. Always. It's human nature in aggregate. You're going to get outliers. Frankly since I started smoking (August this year was my first smoke ever; an R&J Numero Dos paired with a Chateau Lafitte Rothschild. No wonder I'm hooked.) I've found the cigar smoking community to consistently be far and above the most polite, interesting, helpful group of people I have ever encountered. Ever. Anywhere. And this place has been pretty high on the list within that category. No. It doesn't excuse ill-tempered comment. But the net score is so damn high here. Let it roll off ya if you can. Tough when it's personal though, no doubt. o/