Candela- The forgotten wrapper?

Emjaysmash · 02-18-2009, 10:54 AM

Started This thread at the other place, but figured it could get a good deal of discussion here as well.

I was wondering if anyone still smokes these cigars? I recently got a small sampler pack from a friend, and have started to review them. Here's the first.

Cigar: Camacho Candela Monarca
Size: 5 x 50
Wrapper: Candela
Binder: Honduran
Filler: Honduran
Body: Mild-Med.
Appearence: This jolly green giant has a silky smooth wrapper that is very well constructed. Very few veins can be seen and its all topped off with a bright green cap. Other than the color (which reminds me of brussel sprouts) this is a beautifully made cigar.
Pre-light: I used a punch cut on this guy; I found the draw to be extremely loose. I know I would have to smoke this thing slowly in order to prevent “hot boxing” it. The dry taste was that of parsley.
Flavors: To sum it up in a word: bitter. The honduran tobacco ( which, to my taste is a slightly mted tobacco flavor and tends to be a bit boring) was over powered by the taste of a bitter, leafy sort of flavor. Reminded me of eating grass or leaves (don’t ask.) Honestly, it tasted like this cigar was picked too early from it’s blossoming cigar tree. (Ah if only cigars grew on trees…)
Overall: It being my first Candela cigar, the Camacho Monarca didn’t go over that well. Unless you like eating fresh leaves, grass, and happen to be a goat, then this cigar is probably not for you.

SO What do you guys think? Have you tried any candelas? what did you think? LEts get some banter on this!
-MJ

ActionAndy · 02-18-2009, 11:27 AM

I was actually looking into this the other day because I realized I had never had more than one candela. Someone with more info will probably chime in, but weren't candela wrappers huge in America at some point?

I've smoked one Camacho Candela and...don't remember anything about it. I guess that's a review.

Emjaysmash · 02-18-2009, 11:39 AM

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Originally Posted by ActionAndy

Someone with more info will probably chime in, but weren't candela wrappers huge in America at some point?

I believe you are correct. Candela used to be the most popular wrapper a couple decades ago. Like baseball is America's favorite Sport, Candela was america's favorite wrapper.

renton20 · 02-18-2009, 11:59 AM

I've been wanting to try these for a while as they are almost the only camacho that I've never had. I've heard of these being the same blend as the corojo with just a different wrapper, if so I'm surprised that this was so bland.

Anyways, thanks for the great review MJ

02-18-2009, 12:04 PM

I have never had one, but I do know this..
1st- Col. Klink of Hogans Heroes usually pulls the green monsters from his desk top..
2nd- There is a special at "Tampa" for some curly heads, florafinas, and somethin' else but I cannot remember..

right now..

Commander Quan · 02-18-2009, 12:33 PM

I've had a couple different Candela wrapped cigars and none of them have been overly impressive. While I've never gotten the grass flavor that you had it's always been a very light flavor probably the best way to describe it is a weak tea flavor or green tea. I've never had the Camacho but thought that if there was a candela wrapped cigar that actually had bold flavors this would be it.

Starscream · 02-18-2009, 12:34 PM

I tried a Felipe Gregorio candela once. It had no taste. Didn't make me want to try another candela wrapper.

gnukfu · 02-19-2009, 07:14 PM

I've had one of these and I enjoyed it. Not my cup of tea for every day but good once per year on St Patrick's Day.....

shilala · 02-18-2009, 12:35 PM

Fuente's candela is absolutely horrid. So bad that I've vowed to never smoke another green cigar. Evar.

Don Fernando · 02-18-2009, 12:39 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by shilala

Fuente's candela is absolutely horrid. So bad that I've vowed to never smoke another green cigar. Evar.

not even a 'Game'? I think you would really enjoy this one Scott

shilala · 02-18-2009, 12:44 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Don Fernando

not even a 'Game'? I think you would really enjoy this one Scott

Not a chance in Hell. I have an Angry Elf in my humi. I'll keep it forever cause Papajohn sent it to me, but I ain't smokin it.

Skywalker · 02-18-2009, 12:47 PM

I think you just shot the photo using a green lens!!!

J/K

Thanks for the review!!!

Commander Quan · 02-18-2009, 01:33 PM

Article about candela production from cigar aficionado. It's a little long but a pretty interesting read.
http://www.cigaraficionado.com/Cigar...2,1251,00.html

OLS · 07-15-2009, 07:16 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by shilala

Fuente's candela is absolutely horrid. So bad that I've vowed to never smoke another green cigar. Evar.

WOW, talk about identical experiences. I got a box of 858s in Candela once, and my favorite cigar turned into something I will never forget. If you can imagine, it's like those dried herbs like basil or thyme that you get in the store. No matter what you do to it it will always taste like dried flakes of spice, green and wrong. We still use them because sometimes we have to. But you don't have to smoke a Fuente Candela. The wrapper tasted as green as it looked and was very off-putting. I am not sure I didn't throw the box away. I know I didn't smoke any more than the one, and I wouldn't give them away, either. What choice did I have?

mosesbotbol · 02-18-2009, 12:42 PM

I have had Candela habanos. Is Candela the fermantation method or actual leaf variety? I assumed it was just a fermantation method that yields a "candela wrapper".

ActionAndy · 02-18-2009, 12:46 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mosesbotbol

I have had Candela habanos. Is Candela the fermantation method or actual leaf variety? I assumed it was just a fermantation method that yields a "candela wrapper".

Someone can correct me if I'm wrong since this isn't a researched statement (at work) but I believe it's just a very young leaf that hasn't been cured as long as normal wrappers.

Ratters · 02-18-2009, 11:23 PM

I love Camachos, but yeah, these taste like ass. I've had two other Candelas and yeah, mild, grassy, and bitter are seem to be the common qualities.

02-19-2009, 06:13 AM

When my son was born, I gave Iguana candela cigars out to my friends who were into reptiles. I had a few of them. They weren't half bad, to me. A nice change of pace, and I thought that they had a rather sweet flavor to them. It's been a while since I've smoked one, and I know my tastes have changed since then, so who knows if I'd still like them.

longknocker · 07-15-2009, 07:15 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Wanger

When my son was born, I gave Iguana candela cigars out to my friends who were into reptiles. I had a few of them. They weren't half bad, to me. A nice change of pace, and I thought that they had a rather sweet flavor to them. It's been a while since I've smoked one, and I know my tastes have changed since then, so who knows if I'd still like them.

"Iguana" wasn't bad, but, like you, that was many years ago and I probably wouldn't like it now.

ucla695 · 02-19-2009, 06:38 AM

I've never had the urge to try one.

02-18-2009, 10:54 AM	#1
Emjaysmash The Hebrew Hammer Join Date: Oct 2008 First Name: M.J. Location: Milwaukee, WI Posts: 7,025 Trading: (76)	Candela- The forgotten wrapper? Started This thread at the other place, but figured it could get a good deal of discussion here as well. I was wondering if anyone still smokes these cigars? I recently got a small sampler pack from a friend, and have started to review them. Here's the first. Cigar: Camacho Candela Monarca Size: 5 x 50 Wrapper: Candela Binder: Honduran Filler: Honduran Body: Mild-Med. Appearence: This jolly green giant has a silky smooth wrapper that is very well constructed. Very few veins can be seen and its all topped off with a bright green cap. Other than the color (which reminds me of brussel sprouts) this is a beautifully made cigar. Pre-light: I used a punch cut on this guy; I found the draw to be extremely loose. I know I would have to smoke this thing slowly in order to prevent “hot boxing” it. The dry taste was that of parsley. Flavors: To sum it up in a word: bitter. The honduran tobacco ( which, to my taste is a slightly mted tobacco flavor and tends to be a bit boring) was over powered by the taste of a bitter, leafy sort of flavor. Reminded me of eating grass or leaves (don’t ask.) Honestly, it tasted like this cigar was picked too early from it’s blossoming cigar tree. (Ah if only cigars grew on trees…) Overall: It being my first Candela cigar, the Camacho Monarca didn’t go over that well. Unless you like eating fresh leaves, grass, and happen to be a goat, then this cigar is probably not for you. SO What do you guys think? Have you tried any candelas? what did you think? LEts get some banter on this! -MJ __________________

02-18-2009, 11:27 AM	#2
ActionAndy Dayman, Master of Karate Join Date: Dec 2008 First Name: Andy Location: Saratoga Springs, NY Posts: 671 Trading: (7)	Re: Candela- The forgotten wrapper? I was actually looking into this the other day because I realized I had never had more than one candela. Someone with more info will probably chime in, but weren't candela wrappers huge in America at some point? I've smoked one Camacho Candela and...don't remember anything about it. I guess that's a review.

02-18-2009, 11:59 AM	#4
renton20 Still Watching My Back Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: Minneapolis Posts: 212 Trading: (13)	Re: Candela- The forgotten wrapper? I've been wanting to try these for a while as they are almost the only camacho that I've never had. I've heard of these being the same blend as the corojo with just a different wrapper, if so I'm surprised that this was so bland. Anyways, thanks for the great review MJ

02-18-2009, 12:04 PM	#5
Gone Dave Guest Posts: n/a	Re: Candela- The forgotten wrapper? I have never had one, but I do know this.. 1st- Col. Klink of Hogans Heroes usually pulls the green monsters from his desk top.. 2nd- There is a special at "Tampa" for some curly heads, florafinas, and somethin' else but I cannot remember.. right now..

02-18-2009, 12:33 PM	#6
Commander Quan Feeling at Home Join Date: Oct 2008 First Name: Derrick Location: Canton, OH Posts: 966 Trading: (4)	Re: Candela- The forgotten wrapper? I've had a couple different Candela wrapped cigars and none of them have been overly impressive. While I've never gotten the grass flavor that you had it's always been a very light flavor probably the best way to describe it is a weak tea flavor or green tea. I've never had the Camacho but thought that if there was a candela wrapped cigar that actually had bold flavors this would be it.

02-18-2009, 12:34 PM	#7
Starscream Knowhutimean, Vern? Join Date: Oct 2008 First Name: Andy Location: In a little town somewhere in the USA Posts: 10,237 Trading: (4)	Re: Candela- The forgotten wrapper? I tried a Felipe Gregorio candela once. It had no taste. Didn't make me want to try another candela wrapper. __________________ Insert quote here.

02-19-2009, 07:14 PM	#8
gnukfu I like cigars Join Date: Oct 2008 First Name: George Location: Massholia Posts: 1,466 Trading: (27)	Re: Candela- The forgotten wrapper? I've had one of these and I enjoyed it. Not my cup of tea for every day but good once per year on St Patrick's Day..... __________________ Curious George

02-18-2009, 12:35 PM	#9
shilala Dear Lord, Thank You. Join Date: Oct 2008 First Name: Scott Posts: 13,721 Trading: (252)	Re: Candela- The forgotten wrapper? Fuente's candela is absolutely horrid. So bad that I've vowed to never smoke another green cigar. Evar. __________________

02-18-2009, 12:47 PM	#12
Skywalker BABOTL Join Date: Oct 2008 First Name: Dice Location: Galaxy Far Far Away Posts: 10,168 Trading: (18)	Re: Candela- The forgotten wrapper? I think you just shot the photo using a green lens!!! J/K Thanks for the review!!! __________________ Smoke what you like!!!

02-18-2009, 01:33 PM	#13
Commander Quan Feeling at Home Join Date: Oct 2008 First Name: Derrick Location: Canton, OH Posts: 966 Trading: (4)	Re: Candela- The forgotten wrapper? Article about candela production from cigar aficionado. It's a little long but a pretty interesting read. http://www.cigaraficionado.com/Cigar...2,1251,00.html

02-18-2009, 12:42 PM	#15
mosesbotbol That's a Corgi Join Date: Oct 2008 First Name: Moses Location: Boston Posts: 6,171 Trading: (6)	Re: Candela- The forgotten wrapper? I have had Candela habanos. Is Candela the fermantation method or actual leaf variety? I assumed it was just a fermantation method that yields a "candela wrapper". __________________ Port Wine & Claret \| British Cars \| Welsh Corgi's

02-18-2009, 11:23 PM	#17
Ratters Have My Own Room Join Date: Oct 2008 Posts: 1,848 Trading: (2)	Re: Candela- The forgotten wrapper? I love Camachos, but yeah, these taste like ass. I've had two other Candelas and yeah, mild, grassy, and bitter are seem to be the common qualities.

02-19-2009, 06:13 AM	#18
Wanger Guest Posts: n/a	Re: Candela- The forgotten wrapper? When my son was born, I gave Iguana candela cigars out to my friends who were into reptiles. I had a few of them. They weren't half bad, to me. A nice change of pace, and I thought that they had a rather sweet flavor to them. It's been a while since I've smoked one, and I know my tastes have changed since then, so who knows if I'd still like them.

02-19-2009, 06:38 AM	#20
ucla695 Neither here, nor there Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: The Pool Posts: 3,696 Trading: (5)	Re: Candela- The forgotten wrapper? I've never had the urge to try one.