Has anyone ever been arrested for CC's?

07-10-2011, 01:59 PM

Just thought I'd ask as I was wondering this this morning. Now, I'm not talking about suppliers or importers, but I'm talking about individual smokers.

What is the fine for CC's? Maybe our brothers in blue here can tell us what the code is and what they do if they find them (other than lose them somehow on the way to the station...hehehee).

Ogre · 07-10-2011, 02:01 PM

Not that I am aware of, but a fine of $250 per stick can be imposed. That's on top of the money lost from the order.

07-10-2011, 02:04 PM

So has anyone ever been fined?

Ogre · 07-10-2011, 02:06 PM

I don't know.

NCRadioMan · 07-10-2011, 02:13 PM

Never heard of anyone arrested and the fine can depend on how much you bought.

EDIT: From poker's links below, definitely arrests from re-sales inside the states but from anyone ordering from a vendor, I have never heard of it.

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With civil penalty releases completed for 2010, only one transaction for the unauthorized purchase of Cuban cigars over the Internet was levied, back in March. The transaction took place in late 2004 or early 2005 and the individual cited paid a fine of $525. That was it for the entire year.

The one fine equaled the 2009 total, where only a single purchaser - again in late 2004 or early 2005 - was hit with a penalty of $1,175.

By contrast, OFAC issued 27 penalties in 2008 for a total of $39,763.08, nearly double the 14 penalties issued in 2007 (for $20,330.70).

http://www.cigarcyclopedia.com/news-...cigars-in-2010

poker · 07-10-2011, 02:17 PM

http://www.nytimes.com/1998/08/07/ny...gar-sales.html
http://www.redorbit.com/news/odditie...son/index.html

07-10-2011, 02:39 PM

Old but still valid:
http://articles.latimes.com/1997-04-...1_cuban-cigars

Department of Homeland Security:
http://www.cbp.gov/xp/cgov/travel/cl...ban_cigars.xml

Brief quote from their website:

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It is also illegal for U.S. persons to buy, sell, trade, or otherwise engage in transactions involving illegally-imported Cuban cigars. The penalties for doing so include, in addition to confiscation of the cigars, civil fines of up to $55,000 per violation and in appropriate cases, criminal prosecution which may result in higher fines and/or imprisonment.

07-10-2011, 03:07 PM

So from what I take from those links is that unless you are intending to profit from contraband, the feds aren't overly concerned with individual consumption.

dwoodward · 07-10-2011, 03:18 PM

From what I understand, having CC's on you for personal consumption is fine. If you intent to sell them, that's a huge no no. I have no idea on the punishment but I am sure you would be fine if you just had one with you and were smoking it. I doubt most police would have a clue the difference between a CC and NC anyway.

That's just my 2cents.

kydsid · 07-10-2011, 05:52 PM

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Originally Posted by dwoodward

From what I understand, having CC's on you for personal consumption is fine.

From the standpoint of the law that is incorrect.

poker · 07-10-2011, 03:24 PM

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Originally Posted by Bad Finger

So from what I take from those links is that unless you are intending to profit from contraband, the feds aren't overly concerned with individual consumption.

Probably true but I would hate to be the one they wanted to set an example with.

icehog3 · 07-10-2011, 03:22 PM

Police don't enforce the embargo. Federal agencies do.

Drez · 07-10-2011, 04:42 PM

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Originally Posted by icehog3

Police don't enforce the embargo. Federal agencies do.

+1 if i stop a guy and he has a box of CC on the passenger seat i could care less if they are real or where he got them.

hell i might ask him is hes a member of CA

kydsid · 07-10-2011, 05:49 PM

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Originally Posted by icehog3

Police don't enforce the embargo. Federal agencies do.

Agency. Only one has authority to enforce the embargo.

Zeuceone · 07-10-2011, 04:54 PM

The police always let you go with a warning but they consficate the "evidence".

icehog3 · 07-10-2011, 05:05 PM

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Originally Posted by Zeuceone

The police always let you go with a warning but they consficate the "evidence".

Not a chance.

Dunkel · 07-10-2011, 04:56 PM

Yeah right Frank. You'd confiscate them and "let him off with a warning". LOL

Great minds, huh Zuece? LOL

07-10-2011, 09:17 PM

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Originally Posted by Dunkel

Yeah right Frank. You'd confiscate them and "let him off with a warning". LOL

Great minds, huh Zuece? LOL

THIS

lol

Drez · 07-10-2011, 05:26 PM

Lol that would be sweet Doug and G but I like my job so I'll just get me own box hahaha

Plus not to many people driving around with a box of boli or party's on there passenger seats hahaha

pektel · 07-10-2011, 06:47 PM

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Originally Posted by Drez

Plus not to many people driving around with a box of boli or party's on there passenger seats hahaha

Ya know, a while ago I actually stopped halfway home to put a box of partagas shorts in the trunk that up until then were sitting on the passenger seat lol.
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07-10-2011, 01:59 PM	#1
Bad Finger Guest Posts: n/a	Has anyone ever been arrested for CC's? Just thought I'd ask as I was wondering this this morning. Now, I'm not talking about suppliers or importers, but I'm talking about individual smokers. What is the fine for CC's? Maybe our brothers in blue here can tell us what the code is and what they do if they find them (other than lose them somehow on the way to the station...hehehee).

07-10-2011, 02:01 PM	#2
Ogre **CENSORED** Join Date: Apr 2010 First Name: Larry Location: Central Florida Posts: 12,068 Trading: (46)	Re: Has anyone ever been arrested for CC's? Not that I am aware of, but a fine of $250 per stick can be imposed. That's on top of the money lost from the order. __________________

07-10-2011, 02:04 PM	#3
Bad Finger Guest Posts: n/a	Re: Has anyone ever been arrested for CC's? So has anyone ever been fined?

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07-10-2011, 02:17 PM	#6
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07-10-2011, 03:07 PM	#8
Bad Finger Guest Posts: n/a	Re: Has anyone ever been arrested for CC's? So from what I take from those links is that unless you are intending to profit from contraband, the feds aren't overly concerned with individual consumption.

07-10-2011, 03:18 PM	#9
dwoodward Gentlemen, you may smoke! Join Date: Jul 2010 First Name: Derrick Location: South Dakota Posts: 1,868 Trading: (26)	Re: Has anyone ever been arrested for CC's? From what I understand, having CC's on you for personal consumption is fine. If you intent to sell them, that's a huge no no. I have no idea on the punishment but I am sure you would be fine if you just had one with you and were smoking it. I doubt most police would have a clue the difference between a CC and NC anyway. That's just my 2cents.

07-10-2011, 03:22 PM	#12
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Zeuceone You're next Join Date: Dec 2010 First Name: G Location: SoCal Posts: 1,737 Trading: (16)	Re: Has anyone ever been arrested for CC's? The police always let you go with a warning but they consficate the "evidence".

07-10-2011, 04:56 PM	#17
Dunkel Maduro & Oscuro Whore-O Join Date: Jun 2009 First Name: Doug Location: West by God Virginia Posts: 2,232 Trading: (75)	Re: Has anyone ever been arrested for CC's? Yeah right Frank. You'd confiscate them and "let him off with a warning". LOL Great minds, huh Zuece? LOL __________________ Blue Label,Any Filipe Gregorio,Acid,Don Elias,El Mejor Espresso,Tierra del Sol

07-10-2011, 05:26 PM	#19
Drez The Warden Join Date: Jan 2010 First Name: Frank Location: Miami, FL Posts: 3,768 Trading: (35)	Re: Has anyone ever been arrested for CC's? Lol that would be sweet Doug and G but I like my job so I'll just get me own box hahaha Plus not to many people driving around with a box of boli or party's on there passenger seats hahaha __________________ They aren't going to multiply....burn that b!tch!