Messy Ash

12-06-2010, 02:03 PM

Newbie question for you...so in regards to Ash. I see that the holding of a good ash is quite desirable, even invoking a contest on here for longest ash...
Today I smoked an Arganese...and I have to say it's been the messiest thing I've ever smoked...it holds absolutely no ash to itself, instead preferring to sprinkle it liberally and generously among the floor, table and my lap in untold numbers of tiny flakes...
What is this about...what makes a good cigar hold its ash...and one that doesn't?

Emjaysmash · 12-06-2010, 02:14 PM

it can be due to the construction of the cigar, as well as the humidity of the cigar that the time.

CigarNut · 12-06-2010, 03:00 PM

It all depends upon whether any of my clothes are "ash magnets". Unfortunately, most are...

Really, like MH said, construction (including the quality of the tobacco) and humidity play a huge part. The humidity affects the way a cigar smokes if the RH that the cigar was stored at is a lot different from the RH when/where you smoke the cigar.

12-06-2010, 03:16 PM

hmm, ok thanks fellas....I've always known I'm an ash magnet...no wait that was something else.

I'm going to go with quality of the cigar, since I've smoked many others now out of my humi, and they've all produced much better burns/ash. The two Arganese's I've smoked have both been messy marvin's.

Emjaysmash · 12-06-2010, 03:22 PM

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Originally Posted by Springsman

hmm, ok thanks fellas....I've always known I'm an ash magnet...no wait that was something else.

I'm going to go with quality of the cigar, since I've smoked many others now out of my humi, and they've all produced much better burns/ash. The two Arganese's I've smoked have both been messy marvin's.

I don't believe Arganese is known for their construction. This can also happen with mixed or short filler cigars, but since arganese is not either of those it's safe to say the construction is less than spectacular.

Skywalker · 12-07-2010, 10:19 AM

I have smoked plenty of Arganese and I can tell you that I have had little problem with them holding their ash! Most will hold an ash more than halfway through a cigar.

I haven't smoked one with mixed fillers either. All have been long filler.

I'm curious about the vitola. The PCs don't hold ash as well as the big guys. If it was a bigger cigar... I would go with storage as the issue.

Construction isn't the issue with Arganese... I'll leave it there!

As far as ash goes... Long ash proves nothing about quality.

Ismith75 · 12-07-2010, 10:26 AM

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Originally Posted by Skywalker

I have smoked plenty of Arganese and I can tell you that I have had little problem with them holding their ash! Most will hold an ash more than halfway through a cigar.

I haven't smoked one with mixed fillers either. All have been long filler.

I'm curious about the vitola. The PCs don't hold ash as well as the big guys. If it was a bigger cigar... I would go with storage as the issue.

Construction isn't the issue with Arganese... I'll leave it there!

As far as ash goes... Long ash proves nothing about quality.

I bought a 40 pack of unbanded Arganese for $20 on the Devil Site about 6 months ago. I was looking for some yard gars and ended up with a really decent smoke after some down time. Construction is awesome considering the price...stays lit, steady burn, solid ash. Best 50 cent cigar I've smoked!

Skywalker · 12-07-2010, 10:32 AM

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Originally Posted by Ismith75

I bought a 40 pack of unbanded Arganese for $20 on the Devil Site about 6 months ago. I was looking for some yard gars and ended up with a really decent smoke after some down time. Construction is awesome considering the price...stays lit, steady burn, solid ash. Best 50 cent cigar I've smoked!

Ian, You're a man after my own heart!!!

I have some friends (haters) that you need to talk to!

bobarian · 12-07-2010, 01:41 PM

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Originally Posted by Skywalker

Construction isn't the issue with Arganese... I'll leave it there!

A flaky ash is sometimes indicative of a short filler cigar, but as Darrell said most Arganese are long filler.

Construction is usually not an issue with Arganese...Its the foul taste they leave in your mouth!

Skywalker · 12-07-2010, 01:48 PM

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Originally Posted by bobarian

A flaky ash is sometimes indicative of a short filler cigar, but as Darrell said most Arganese are long filler.

Construction is usually not an issue with Arganese...Its the foul taste they leave in your mouth!

Hater!!!

Ismith75 · 12-06-2010, 05:49 PM

Ring gauge also seems to play a role I've found.

justonemorestick · 12-07-2010, 08:35 AM

I have had that problem from time to time on many different sticks sometimes it looks like I have been sprinkled with the ashtray If you keep an eye on it and roll off /blow off as needed it shouldnt be a problem.

T.G · 12-07-2010, 10:09 AM

"Messy Ash"?

Nah, too easy....

12-06-2010, 02:03 PM	#1
Springsman Guest Posts: n/a	Messy Ash Newbie question for you...so in regards to Ash. I see that the holding of a good ash is quite desirable, even invoking a contest on here for longest ash... Today I smoked an Arganese...and I have to say it's been the messiest thing I've ever smoked...it holds absolutely no ash to itself, instead preferring to sprinkle it liberally and generously among the floor, table and my lap in untold numbers of tiny flakes... What is this about...what makes a good cigar hold its ash...and one that doesn't?

12-06-2010, 02:14 PM	#2
Emjaysmash The Hebrew Hammer Join Date: Oct 2008 First Name: M.J. Location: Milwaukee, WI Posts: 7,025 Trading: (76)	Re: Messy Ash it can be due to the construction of the cigar, as well as the humidity of the cigar that the time. __________________

12-06-2010, 03:00 PM	#3
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12-06-2010, 03:16 PM	#4
Springsman Guest Posts: n/a	Re: Messy Ash hmm, ok thanks fellas....I've always known I'm an ash magnet...no wait that was something else. I'm going to go with quality of the cigar, since I've smoked many others now out of my humi, and they've all produced much better burns/ash. The two Arganese's I've smoked have both been messy marvin's.

12-07-2010, 10:19 AM	#6
Skywalker BABOTL Join Date: Oct 2008 First Name: Dice Location: Galaxy Far Far Away Posts: 10,168 Trading: (18)	Re: Messy Ash I have smoked plenty of Arganese and I can tell you that I have had little problem with them holding their ash! Most will hold an ash more than halfway through a cigar. I haven't smoked one with mixed fillers either. All have been long filler. I'm curious about the vitola. The PCs don't hold ash as well as the big guys. If it was a bigger cigar... I would go with storage as the issue. Construction isn't the issue with Arganese... I'll leave it there! As far as ash goes... Long ash proves nothing about quality. __________________ Smoke what you like!!!

12-06-2010, 05:49 PM	#11
Ismith75 Tin Cup Chalice Join Date: Nov 2010 First Name: Ian Location: Chicago Posts: 373 Trading: (8)	Re: Messy Ash Ring gauge also seems to play a role I've found.

12-07-2010, 08:35 AM	#12
justonemorestick Kat Krap Kontanment Media Join Date: Oct 2010 First Name: Warren Location: Las Cruces Posts: 292 Trading: (13)	Re: Messy Ash I have had that problem from time to time on many different sticks sometimes it looks like I have been sprinkled with the ashtray If you keep an eye on it and roll off /blow off as needed it shouldnt be a problem. __________________ This message was created entirely of recycled electrons, manufactured before 1899 in an effort to prevent global de-electrification.

12-07-2010, 10:09 AM	#13
T.G Grrrrrr Join Date: Mar 2009 First Name: The Other Adam Posts: 15,557 Trading: (37)	Re: Messy Ash "Messy Ash"? Nah, too easy....