Do you need a server AND a humidor?

MajorCaptSilly · 06-01-2009, 07:21 AM

This will do it:

http://www.homeservidor.com/

MCS

06-01-2009, 07:30 AM

omg i cryed a lil bit when i clicked that link

Mr.Maduro · 06-01-2009, 07:49 AM

With the amount of heat servers give off, that would be like keeping your humidor on a radiator.

macpappy · 06-01-2009, 11:27 AM

What are you going to do when the homeserver crashes and the bugs infest your cigars?

Jbailey · 06-01-2009, 11:31 PM

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Originally Posted by macpappy

What are you going to do when the homeserver crashes and the bugs infest your cigars?

Hopefully you would have remembered to back up your cigars.

WildBlueSooner · 06-01-2009, 11:32 AM

haha that is awesome and dumb!

marge796 · 06-01-2009, 02:27 PM

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Originally Posted by WildBlueSooner

haha that is awesome and dumb!

^^^ What he said ^^^

Chris.....

HK3- · 06-01-2009, 04:43 PM

Anyone hava looksy at the price on that jewel? Whoa mama!

Nimbus · 06-01-2009, 04:55 PM

Where is the LCD, keyboard, mouse, etc.?

RGD. · 06-01-2009, 07:32 PM

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Originally Posted by Nimbus

Where is the LCD, keyboard, mouse, etc.?

Windows Home Server - remote controlled if I'm not mistaken.

Ron

Smoking Dragon · 06-04-2009, 05:55 AM

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Originally Posted by HK3-

Anyone hava looksy at the price on that jewel? Whoa mama!

Yeah but free shipping to US.

dunng · 06-01-2009, 12:24 PM

I like it but I agree, it could cause too many issues...

Raralith · 06-01-2009, 02:15 PM

It's a dual core Atom (found in many netbooks) and doesn't run hot. You probably can run this passively with a good HSF so heat isn't a problem. Very small for a server, 2x 3.5, which is definately not enough to backup my stuff. Price is ridicious too.

I gotta admit, I'm thinking too much of it as a gag item.

Totemic · 06-02-2009, 11:15 AM

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Originally Posted by Raralith

It's a dual core Atom (found in many netbooks) and doesn't run hot.

The CPU may not, but unless you plan on using nothing but external storage, the harddrives in it will (not to mention RAM and any other additional controller chipset being used). The Atom may only sink 8W of power, but the harddrives can easily double that and from the looks of it, there's damn little in the way of air flow (certainly no vents that I can see in the picture). And even 8W, over time will build up heat. 75 degrees F isn't much in the computing world in terms of heat, but in the cigar world, that's pretty much the cap.

MajorCaptSilly · 06-02-2009, 01:43 PM

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Originally Posted by Totemic

The CPU may not, but unless you plan on using nothing but external storage, the harddrives in it will (not to mention RAM and any other additional controller chipset being used). The Atom may only sink 8W of power, but the harddrives can easily double that and from the looks of it, there's damn little in the way of air flow (certainly no vents that I can see in the picture). And even 8W, over time will build up heat. 75 degrees F isn't much in the computing world in terms of heat, but in the cigar world, that's pretty much the cap.

How 'bout solid state drives?

MCS

Totemic · 06-02-2009, 03:16 PM

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Originally Posted by MajorCaptSilly

How 'bout solid state drives?

MCS

There's basically two types of SSD:

Flash memory based and DRAM based.

Flash memory based SSD is really not very suitable for server roles simply because they have some serious drawbacks when making a lot of write ops on the storage. Write tend to be slow, there are limited number of write cycles per cell, and generally if you change a single byte in a cell, you have to re-write the entire cell, etc...

DRAM based systems potentially are significantly worse than platter based harddrives where power draw is concerned. An idle harddrive uses very little power. An idle DRAM based SSD pretty much uses just as much power as a non-idle DRAM based SSD.

So if you're using the server as a file server (serving up mostly static files with very little in way of new files being added), then yeah a flash based SSD should work and may lower some of the power draw. However, I'd say that's a fairly pointless exercise since you're looking at a LOT of $$$ for an SSD based server--might as well just get a harddrive based server and buy a really nice thermoelectrically cooled humidor with the money (it'll probably end up being cheaper).

MajorCaptSilly · 06-03-2009, 04:23 PM

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Originally Posted by Totemic

There's basically two types of SSD:

Flash memory based and DRAM based.

Flash memory based SSD is really not very suitable for server roles simply because they have some serious drawbacks when making a lot of write ops on the storage. Write tend to be slow, there are limited number of write cycles per cell, and generally if you change a single byte in a cell, you have to re-write the entire cell, etc...

DRAM based systems potentially are significantly worse than platter based harddrives where power draw is concerned. An idle harddrive uses very little power. An idle DRAM based SSD pretty much uses just as much power as a non-idle DRAM based SSD.

So if you're using the server as a file server (serving up mostly static files with very little in way of new files being added), then yeah a flash based SSD should work and may lower some of the power draw. However, I'd say that's a fairly pointless exercise since you're looking at a LOT of $$$ for an SSD based server--might as well just get a harddrive based server and buy a really nice thermoelectrically cooled humidor with the money (it'll probably end up being cheaper).

I was referring to the Intel brand of SSD's. Watch prices on these by the end of this year. They should be very close to current prices on 15K SAS drives.

MCS

06-01-2009, 06:01 PM

OMG link of the day.

s15driftking · 06-01-2009, 07:21 PM

what the heck?

Smokin Gator · 06-01-2009, 07:27 PM

Holds 10-12 of your finest cigars

Hmmm a couple of days worth when I am on a roll. I think I will order one.

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