Need Rum Help...

12-14-2014, 10:29 PM

I'm looking to broaden my horizons and delve into some nice rums to accompany good cigars. Bourbons, scotches and Irish whiskeys, I'm familiar with, but rums are something new to me. Looking for something with a lot of flavor and no small amount of sweet, complex notes. How about recommending a good rum to a brother for sipping neat.

AdamJoshua · 12-14-2014, 10:45 PM

I enjoy Zaya rum.

mosesbotbol · 12-15-2014, 12:10 AM

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Originally Posted by AdamJoshua

I enjoy Zaya rum.

So do I. It's a steal of a deal considering how aged and the price. I like an aged Rum from India, but forget its name. Squat bottle. Good liquor store will have it. Also a virtual giveaway.

coach · 12-15-2014, 08:49 AM

Zaya, Zacapa, La Flor Decana 12yr, Appleton Estate 40yr, Mount Gay Eclipse or Black, Cruzan Single Barrel, Pyrat just a few that I enjoy.

yourchoice · 12-14-2014, 10:46 PM

http://www.cigarasylum.com/vb/showthread.php?t=76

This is the thread that broadened my rum horizons.

MarkinAZ · 12-14-2014, 10:46 PM

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Originally Posted by badbriar

I'm looking to broaden my horizons and delve into some nice rums to accompany good cigars. Bourbons, scotches and Irish whiskeys, I'm familiar with, but rums are something new to me. Looking for something with a lot of flavor and no small amount of sweet, complex notes. How about recommending a good rum to a brother for sipping neat.

Great timing Rob! I'm actually sipping on some rum while smoking a pipe. I'm sipping on an El Dorado 8 yr old cask aged rum that was gifted to me by Eric (smokin5) recently. I can say it follows the tasting notes described here:

http://theeldoradorum.com/our-portfo...ged/8-year-old

It is smooth and quite a tasty rum

equetefue · 12-15-2014, 09:13 AM

Ron Zacapa is great for sipping

kydsid · 12-15-2014, 09:31 AM

Seeing as you are a bourbon and whiskey drinker I'd say find some Goslings Family old Reserve. Also try the CA thread above and also check out rumratings dot com

Porch Dweller · 12-15-2014, 10:36 AM

Flor de Cana 12-year old.

nutcracker · 12-15-2014, 10:43 AM

Santiago 20 year old.
The best rum I've tasted, by a country mile. Great stuff, almost as good as an old brandy (thinking Armagnac here).

You might however have to go to Cuba to get it.

Can't imagine why you'd want to go to Cuba....

AdamJoshua · 12-15-2014, 11:01 AM

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Originally Posted by nutcracker

Santiago 20 year old.
The best rum I've tasted, by a country mile. Great stuff, almost as good as an old brandy (thinking Armagnac here).

You might however have to go to Cuba to get it.

Can't imagine why you'd want to go to Cuba....

Oh wait you deal with noggins / brains …. oh that explains you being a smart ass and rubbing in the going to Cuba angle.

nutcracker · 12-15-2014, 11:13 AM

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Originally Posted by AdamJoshua

Oh wait you deal with noggins / brains …. oh that explains you being a smart ass and rubbing in the going to Cuba angle.

mosesbotbol · 12-15-2014, 11:51 PM

Each region of the Caribbean has different style to it. Similar to cigars. You'll need to try a few and see which is your favorite. Some names like Appleton & Goslings carry a price premium to them, but even with them it's still cheaper than a whiskey of the same barrel age.

Worst comes to worst, just make Dark 'n Stormy's with it.

pattersong · 12-16-2014, 08:07 AM

I generally mix my rum with coke...with this in mind, I stay away from really high end sipping rums, but I have some suggestions for you that are very nice and reasonably priced.

El Dorado 8 & 12 (15 yr or 21 yr for sipping)
Flor de Cana 5 (this is great Nicaraguan Rum with coke and lime...and many Nica cigars)

I'm interested in buying my first bottle of single malt over the holidays. Maybe you can help me here...I've read a lot, and it seems the Highland Park 12 is a decent beginner choice. Any other suggestions?

Cheers!

nutcracker · 12-16-2014, 08:32 AM

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Originally Posted by pattersong

I generally mix my rum with coke...with this in mind, I stay away from really high end sipping rums, but I have some suggestions for you that are very nice and reasonably priced.

El Dorado 8 & 12 (15 yr or 21 yr for sipping)
Flor de Cana 5 (this is great Nicaraguan Rum with coke and lime...and many Nica cigars)

I'm interested in buying my first bottle of single malt over the holidays. Maybe you can help me here...I've read a lot, and it seems the Highland Park 12 is a decent beginner choice. Any other suggestions?

Cheers!

Greg - for single malts - start gentle. Speysides are generally more "accessible" (Glenfiddich being the entry level sample, but Glendronach a much nicer example).

Highland Park is really fine whiskey. Personally I like the 18 year old version, which has a distinct heather/floral note to it. Macallan is also easy to get into, as it is usually sherry-esque and is fantastic with Cuban cigars.

Leave Islay's peated monsters for later. These are IMHO the best in scotch to pair with cigars and oysters, but are not easy as a starting point.

Follow the "dew on the rose" principle. Try the malt straight up - no ice anywhere near the glass* - after trying it neat, add the tiniest bit of water (dew on the rose) - which will bring out the more delicate aromas.

(*Chilling the scotch will make the esters precipitate, and you lose half the aroma.)

It is 8:00am and I'm thirsty......

tsolomon · 12-16-2014, 08:41 AM

My favorites:

Ron Zacapa XO - pricey but really good.
Ron Zacapa 23 - my go to when I can find it on sale.
Zaya - pretty good and I can find it for around $25 a bottle.

big pete · 12-16-2014, 04:26 PM

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Originally Posted by tsolomon

My favorites:

Ron Zacapa XO - pricey but really good.
Ron Zacapa 23 - my go to when I can find it on sale.
Zaya - pretty good and I can find it for around $25 a bottle.

+1 for this list. Good stuff that you can get in the states

12-17-2014, 11:52 AM

OK - thanks for all the superb recommendations. Looks like these three are the ones most often suggested... Flor de Cana Centenario 12-year, Ron Zacapa Centenario 23, Zaya 12-year.
Will probably start with the Zaya or the Zacapa. This weekend will be a treat! Now... what cigar to best enjoy with???

mosesbotbol · 12-16-2014, 07:47 PM

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Originally Posted by tsolomon

My favorites:

Ron Zacapa XO - pricey but really good.
Ron Zacapa 23 - my go to when I can find it on sale.
Zaya - pretty good and I can find it for around $25 a bottle.

Had a glass of that last night at Jimmy's cigar lounge in Singapore with an ERDM Grande d'Espana. Very smooth and mellow rum. Kind of bottle that would disappear quickly. $35 a glass at the lounge.

big pete · 12-17-2014, 01:32 PM

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Originally Posted by mosesbotbol

Had a glass of that last night at Jimmy's cigar lounge in Singapore with an ERDM Grande d'Espana. Very smooth and mellow rum. Kind of bottle that would disappear quickly. $35 a glass at the lounge.

$35? Ouch. They're usually low to mid $40s per bottle in my area.

12-14-2014, 10:29 PM	#1
badbriar Guest Posts: n/a	Need Rum Help... I'm looking to broaden my horizons and delve into some nice rums to accompany good cigars. Bourbons, scotches and Irish whiskeys, I'm familiar with, but rums are something new to me. Looking for something with a lot of flavor and no small amount of sweet, complex notes. How about recommending a good rum to a brother for sipping neat.

12-14-2014, 10:45 PM	#2
AdamJoshua Article 4 Free Inhabitant Join Date: Jan 2013 First Name: The Other Adam Location: Satellite Beach Posts: 14,787 Trading: (40)	Re: Need Rum Help... I enjoy Zaya rum.

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yourchoice Down the stretch Join Date: Oct 2008 First Name: Joel Location: South Jersey Posts: 4,091 Trading: (36)	Re: Need Rum Help... http://www.cigarasylum.com/vb/showthread.php?t=76 This is the thread that broadened my rum horizons.

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nutcracker Shameless epicurian Join Date: Apr 2014 First Name: Neil Location: Winnipeg, Canada - Home of the Jets! Posts: 1,631 Trading: (26)	Re: Need Rum Help... Santiago 20 year old. The best rum I've tasted, by a country mile. Great stuff, almost as good as an old brandy (thinking Armagnac here). You might however have to go to Cuba to get it. Can't imagine why you'd want to go to Cuba.... __________________ "Well I ain't often right but I've never been wrong.... Jerry Garcia (R.I.P.)

12-15-2014, 11:51 PM	#13
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12-16-2014, 08:07 AM	#14
pattersong Gentlemen, you may smoke! Join Date: Jun 2014 First Name: Greg Location: Toronto Posts: 100 Trading: (0)	Re: Need Rum Help... I generally mix my rum with coke...with this in mind, I stay away from really high end sipping rums, but I have some suggestions for you that are very nice and reasonably priced. El Dorado 8 & 12 (15 yr or 21 yr for sipping) Flor de Cana 5 (this is great Nicaraguan Rum with coke and lime...and many Nica cigars) I'm interested in buying my first bottle of single malt over the holidays. Maybe you can help me here...I've read a lot, and it seems the Highland Park 12 is a decent beginner choice. Any other suggestions? Cheers!

12-16-2014, 08:41 AM	#16
tsolomon Have My Own Room Join Date: Oct 2008 First Name: Tom Location: The Villages, FL Posts: 1,246 Trading: (31)	Re: Need Rum Help... My favorites: Ron Zacapa XO - pricey but really good. Ron Zacapa 23 - my go to when I can find it on sale. Zaya - pretty good and I can find it for around $25 a bottle.

12-17-2014, 11:52 AM	#18
badbriar Guest Posts: n/a	Re: Need Rum Help... OK - thanks for all the superb recommendations. Looks like these three are the ones most often suggested... Flor de Cana Centenario 12-year, Ron Zacapa Centenario 23, Zaya 12-year. Will probably start with the Zaya or the Zacapa. This weekend will be a treat! Now... what cigar to best enjoy with???