Perdomo Champagne Noir Epicure (54x6)

INT · 10-17-2011, 10:27 PM

I'll admit, I'm a bit of a Perdomo whore. Their quality + price point makes their cigars very hard to beat IMO. Their Lot 23 has been my prefered go to daily smoke, with the original Champagne being my go to "step up" smoke. The original Champagne was also my all around favorite cigar I've ever had. I've sampled Rocky Patels, Cohibas and Montecristos (NC), Arturo Fuente, Gurkhas, Oliva, Nub, you get the picture. I keep coming back to the Champagne. It's smooth, mild-medium yet full of flavor. So when many people who also had the Champagne as their #1 told me the Noir would replace it, I was very intrigued. After sampling, they did not lie.

The piece I sampled was the Epicure, 54x6. It sat in my humi for 4 days. The others should be better as time goes on. It's described as being nearly identical to the Champagne with two tweaks. One is slight, to the filler which has had a little bit of a make over. The descriptions say it's the same but my local tobacconist who's met and known Nick Perdomo for a while says they did mess with the fillers slightly. But the big difference is the tripple fermented Maduro wrapper which is aged 14 months. The result is nothing short of Godliness. All the smoothness and thick smokely plumes of the original champagne, but bolder richer flavors and aroma. The flavors also are a bit different. The original Champagne has a solid toasted wood and nut flavor profile for me. This is more rich tobacco, coffee and nuts. And the aroma is full with a coffee/mocha profile.

The best part...it's the same exact price as the original champagnes at about $6 a pop. This is simply put, the best cigar for the buck I've ever had. PERIOD. I defy someone to find one better for the same price point. That title used to be held for me personally by the Champagne as mentioned. Perdomo out did themselves and keeping it the same price puts it head and shoulders above all.

Ogre · 10-17-2011, 10:38 PM

Thanks for the review brother. I had one 2 weeks ago and it didnt do it for me. Not saying it was bad, just not for me.

INT · 10-17-2011, 10:41 PM

No problem. Everyone's tastes are different. I've had some sticks people thought were awesome that left me scratching my head, and some that people thought were meh that I loved. It's all in the eye of the beholder. Another thing that makes this world of the cigar unique

cmitch · 10-26-2011, 10:00 PM

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Originally Posted by Ogre

Thanks for the review brother. I had one 2 weeks ago and it didnt do it for me. Not saying it was bad, just not for me.

You smoked the epicure? The super toro is much better, to me. The epicure just never achieved the flavor the super toro did.

INT · 10-27-2011, 07:43 AM

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Originally Posted by cmitch

You smoked the epicure? The super toro is much better, to me. The epicure just never achieved the flavor the super toro did.

May have to try the super.

Ogre · 10-17-2011, 10:46 PM

Thats why I love reading the reviews. I would have tried one (if I had not already) because of your review.

falconman515 · 10-18-2011, 02:06 AM

I've got like 3 different Perdomo's in the cooler one is a lot23 and another is some anniversary edition or something.

Thanks for the review these are now on my mind to give a try.

HollywoodQue · 10-18-2011, 02:45 AM

Thanks for sharing.

deadrise · 10-18-2011, 04:52 AM

very good review I will be trying one of these soon

kelmac07 · 10-18-2011, 06:24 AM

Sweet...sitting on one of these.

RatherUneek · 10-18-2011, 07:52 AM

Great review! I will probably pick one of these up as well as an original.

gator_79 · 10-18-2011, 01:29 PM

Nice review...Although I've never had a Perdomo that I really liked. I've smoked a 5'er of the Lot 23 Maduro, I've had various smokes from the habano series, ESV's, and also the 10th anny maduro and champagne. I can't say that enjoyed any of them. That is what makes this hobby so great...Selection.

dave · 10-18-2011, 02:09 PM

Thanks for the review. I'm looking forward to trying this. Never been much of a fan of the Champagne - just too mild, muted and muddied for me. However, Nick does a good job with maduro wrappers (and corojo) and I'll give this one a go. I'm particularly looking forward to the new ESV Maddies, however.

Skywalker · 10-18-2011, 04:51 PM

I was curious about these!

Thanks for the review!!!

10-18-2011, 08:52 PM

Nice job on the review. Im a maduro guy but the original champagne is my favorite mild-medium flavored stick. I've been curious about the noir since I first saw it. Im now gonna get a few of these

INT · 10-19-2011, 07:45 AM

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Originally Posted by lyle23

Nice job on the review. Im a maduro guy but the original champagne is my favorite mild-medium flavored stick. I've been curious about the noir since I first saw it. Im now gonna get a few of these

Same here. I've actually slowly developed as a Maduro guy as I've grown in this hobby. I was initially turned off because quite frankly I dove into Maduros and fuller smokes to soon. But as I smoked more and more and graduated slowly in strength the bolder flavors of Maduros have really taken over with me. I still enjoy my mild-mediums, especially first thing in the morning with some Joe or when I'm not feeling a fuller smoke. And like you, in that category the original Champagne was my favorite.

I would not rate this cigar as full bodied, even though it's advertised as medium-full. It's Medium. Maybe right at the end it get's a little stronger.

Moose6026 · 10-26-2011, 07:54 PM

I like the Perdomo Lot 23 maddys alot and after reading this review I ordered me some of the Chamagne Noir. Thanks for the review. I love seeing everyones different viewpoints and opinions

falconman515 · 10-19-2011, 12:50 AM

Based on seeing this yesterday I tried my first Perdomo today....

Perdomo Reserve 10th Criollo

Not bad of a stick.... I've got a lot 23 in the humi that I will try next.

Thanks for the review again.

RatherUneek · 10-19-2011, 07:44 AM

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Originally Posted by falconman515

Based on seeing this yesterday I tried my first Perdomo today....

Perdomo Reserve 10th Criollo

Not bad of a stick.... I've got a lot 23 in the humi that I will try next.

Thanks for the review again.

I bought one too based on the review yesterday on my lunch break. Going to let it rest a bit. May try it this weekend.

Zeuceone · 10-26-2011, 10:10 PM

Smoked one last week and still like the regular champagne much better.

10-17-2011, 10:38 PM	#2
Ogre **CENSORED** Join Date: Apr 2010 First Name: Larry Location: Central Florida Posts: 12,068 Trading: (46)	Re: Perdomo Champagne Noir Epicure (54x6) Thanks for the review brother. I had one 2 weeks ago and it didnt do it for me. Not saying it was bad, just not for me. __________________

10-17-2011, 10:41 PM	#3
INT Adjusting to the Life Join Date: Aug 2011 Posts: 354 Trading: (0)	Re: Perdomo Champagne Noir Epicure (54x6) No problem. Everyone's tastes are different. I've had some sticks people thought were awesome that left me scratching my head, and some that people thought were meh that I loved. It's all in the eye of the beholder. Another thing that makes this world of the cigar unique __________________ *Convenerunt Disperdere* Last edited by INT; 10-17-2011 at 10:47 PM.

10-17-2011, 10:46 PM	#6
Ogre **CENSORED** Join Date: Apr 2010 First Name: Larry Location: Central Florida Posts: 12,068 Trading: (46)	Re: Perdomo Champagne Noir Epicure (54x6) Thats why I love reading the reviews. I would have tried one (if I had not already) because of your review. __________________

10-18-2011, 02:06 AM	#7
falconman515 Central Cali Cigar Crew Join Date: Jul 2011 First Name: Chris Location: Fresno, CA. Posts: 660 Trading: (35)	Re: Perdomo Champagne Noir Epicure (54x6) I've got like 3 different Perdomo's in the cooler one is a lot23 and another is some anniversary edition or something. Thanks for the review these are now on my mind to give a try.

10-18-2011, 02:45 AM	#8
HollywoodQue Invictus Join Date: Oct 2010 First Name: Howard Location: In the "D" Posts: 3,122 Trading: (46)	Re: Perdomo Champagne Noir Epicure (54x6) Thanks for sharing.

10-17-2011, 10:27 PM	#1
INT Adjusting to the Life Join Date: Aug 2011 Posts: 354 Trading: (0)	Perdomo Champagne Noir Epicure (54x6) I'll admit, I'm a bit of a Perdomo whore. Their quality + price point makes their cigars very hard to beat IMO. Their Lot 23 has been my prefered go to daily smoke, with the original Champagne being my go to "step up" smoke. The original Champagne was also my all around favorite cigar I've ever had. I've sampled Rocky Patels, Cohibas and Montecristos (NC), Arturo Fuente, Gurkhas, Oliva, Nub, you get the picture. I keep coming back to the Champagne. It's smooth, mild-medium yet full of flavor. So when many people who also had the Champagne as their #1 told me the Noir would replace it, I was very intrigued. After sampling, they did not lie. The piece I sampled was the Epicure, 54x6. It sat in my humi for 4 days. The others should be better as time goes on. It's described as being nearly identical to the Champagne with two tweaks. One is slight, to the filler which has had a little bit of a make over. The descriptions say it's the same but my local tobacconist who's met and known Nick Perdomo for a while says they did mess with the fillers slightly. But the big difference is the tripple fermented Maduro wrapper which is aged 14 months. The result is nothing short of Godliness. All the smoothness and thick smokely plumes of the original champagne, but bolder richer flavors and aroma. The flavors also are a bit different. The original Champagne has a solid toasted wood and nut flavor profile for me. This is more rich tobacco, coffee and nuts. And the aroma is full with a coffee/mocha profile. The best part...it's the same exact price as the original champagnes at about $6 a pop. This is simply put, the best cigar for the buck I've ever had. PERIOD. I defy someone to find one better for the same price point. That title used to be held for me personally by the Champagne as mentioned. Perdomo out did themselves and keeping it the same price puts it head and shoulders above all. __________________ *Convenerunt Disperdere*

10-18-2011, 04:52 AM	#9
deadrise The Manhattan Project Join Date: Sep 2011 First Name: Jason Location: Reedville Virginia Posts: 1,001 Trading: (24)	Re: Perdomo Champagne Noir Epicure (54x6) very good review I will be trying one of these soon __________________

10-18-2011, 06:24 AM	#10
kelmac07 Resident Maduro Whore!! Join Date: Apr 2009 First Name: Mac Location: Newport News, VA Posts: 27,322 Trading: (218)	Re: Perdomo Champagne Noir Epicure (54x6) Sweet...sitting on one of these. __________________ Dom in the MLB thread "I could probably get you to wear a Yankee hat for a Maduro!"

10-18-2011, 07:52 AM	#11
RatherUneek Still Watching My Back Join Date: Nov 2010 First Name: Rich Location: Arlington, TX Posts: 69 Trading: (2)	Re: Perdomo Champagne Noir Epicure (54x6) Great review! I will probably pick one of these up as well as an original.

10-18-2011, 01:29 PM	#12
gator_79 Still Watching My Back Join Date: Sep 2011 First Name: Robin Location: Orange Park, FL Posts: 184 Trading: (3)	Re: Perdomo Champagne Noir Epicure (54x6) Nice review...Although I've never had a Perdomo that I really liked. I've smoked a 5'er of the Lot 23 Maduro, I've had various smokes from the habano series, ESV's, and also the 10th anny maduro and champagne. I can't say that enjoyed any of them. That is what makes this hobby so great...Selection.

10-18-2011, 02:09 PM	#13
dave Have My Own Room Join Date: May 2011 First Name: Dave Location: Northern VA Posts: 1,180 Trading: (15)	Re: Perdomo Champagne Noir Epicure (54x6) Thanks for the review. I'm looking forward to trying this. Never been much of a fan of the Champagne - just too mild, muted and muddied for me. However, Nick does a good job with maduro wrappers (and corojo) and I'll give this one a go. I'm particularly looking forward to the new ESV Maddies, however.

10-18-2011, 04:51 PM	#14
Skywalker BABOTL Join Date: Oct 2008 First Name: Dice Location: Galaxy Far Far Away Posts: 10,168 Trading: (18)	Re: Perdomo Champagne Noir Epicure (54x6) I was curious about these! Thanks for the review!!! __________________ Smoke what you like!!!

10-18-2011, 08:52 PM	#15
lyle23 Guest Posts: n/a	Re: Perdomo Champagne Noir Epicure (54x6) Nice job on the review. Im a maduro guy but the original champagne is my favorite mild-medium flavored stick. I've been curious about the noir since I first saw it. Im now gonna get a few of these

10-26-2011, 07:54 PM	#17
Moose6026 Adjusting to the Life Join Date: Aug 2011 First Name: Dan Location: In a house Posts: 358 Trading: (1)	Re: Perdomo Champagne Noir Epicure (54x6) I like the Perdomo Lot 23 maddys alot and after reading this review I ordered me some of the Chamagne Noir. Thanks for the review. I love seeing everyones different viewpoints and opinions __________________ Life is hard, but it's harder when you're stupid. - John Wayne

10-19-2011, 12:50 AM	#18
falconman515 Central Cali Cigar Crew Join Date: Jul 2011 First Name: Chris Location: Fresno, CA. Posts: 660 Trading: (35)	Re: Perdomo Champagne Noir Epicure (54x6) Based on seeing this yesterday I tried my first Perdomo today.... Perdomo Reserve 10th Criollo Not bad of a stick.... I've got a lot 23 in the humi that I will try next. Thanks for the review again.

10-26-2011, 10:10 PM	#20
Zeuceone You're next Join Date: Dec 2010 First Name: G Location: SoCal Posts: 1,737 Trading: (16)	Re: Perdomo Champagne Noir Epicure (54x6) Smoked one last week and still like the regular champagne much better.