I want some Plume!

Titan410 · 12-16-2009, 07:46 PM

I've been storing some cigars in a coolerdor and Vino for two years. No plume. I've never had a cigar with plume and I've been hoping to find one or two developing it but no dice.
Temps are about 68 and humidity is 65-70.
Does storing cigars in the cello prevent or inhibit plume in any way?

I was at a B&M in Fredericksburg in the summer and they had some on the shelves with plume and I was tempted to buy one but didn't. Now I'm regretting it.

cort · 12-16-2009, 08:08 PM

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Originally Posted by Titan410

I've been storing some cigars in a coolerdor and Vino for two years. No plume. I've never had a cigar with plume and I've been hoping to find one or two developing it but no dice.
Temps are about 68 and humidity is 65-70.
Does storing cigars in the cello prevent or inhibit plume in any way?

I was at a B&M in Fredericksburg in the summer and they had some on the shelves with plume and I was tempted to buy one but didn't. Now I'm regretting it.

It was probably mold

Titan410 · 12-16-2009, 08:10 PM

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Originally Posted by Cort

It was probably mold

I've tried to convince myself of that.

cort · 12-16-2009, 08:12 PM

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Originally Posted by Titan410

I've tried to convince myself of that.

NCRadioMan · 12-16-2009, 08:18 PM

FWIW, plume doesn't make a cigar taste better. Some cigars will plume, others won't. It's just an indicator of good storage.

pnoon · 12-16-2009, 08:30 PM

I've never understood the pre-occupation w/plume.

NCRadioMan is correct. It is indicative of proper storage. It doesn't affect the flavor or smokeability of the cigar.

12-16-2009, 09:19 PM

I've had a few cigars develop a little plume. Usually a dusty white look. I don't really like it and smoke them as soon as I notice it. I like oily shiny wrappers.

JJG · 12-16-2009, 09:23 PM

I'm no expert on aged cigars, but I've smoked a fair amount of cigars that were 5 and 10 years old and I've never seen plume. I'm not even sure that age guarantees plume, so you could wait a long time without the desired result ever happening. The other option would be to buy some vintage cigars. JRs has a good selection of aged NCs and there are also aged CCs to be had out there. This may be your best bet, but again I don't think it's a guarantee.

hotreds · 12-16-2009, 09:55 PM

Ditto the above- plume does not help the taste of the 'gar in any way. I've had some-in fact a box- of cigars with plume- they were as good as- but not better then- other similar vitolas. Just like a little mold is no reason to toss a cigar, a little plume is no reason to expect an exceptional smoke!

Kreth · 12-16-2009, 10:09 PM

So, occasionally when smoking a cigar, I will see what looks like crystals in the ash. Is this the beginnings of plume?
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12-17-2009, 09:23 AM

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Originally Posted by Kreth

So, occasionally when smoking a cigar, I will see what looks like crystals in the ash. Is this the beginnings of plume?
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If my mind serves me correctly, it means the soil has to much of a mineral in it.....I think its magnesium.

stearns · 12-17-2009, 11:31 AM

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If my mind serves me correctly, it means the soil has to much of a mineral in it.....I think its magnesium.

i remember being told its due to excess potassium, but dont hold me to it

stearns

bigloo · 12-16-2009, 10:45 PM

Kreth....

http://cigarfan.wordpress.com/2008/0...oth-and-grain/

Lu

Kreth · 12-17-2009, 07:07 AM

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Kreth....

http://cigarfan.wordpress.com/2008/0...oth-and-grain/

Lu

Interesting read. Thanks.

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Ranger_B · 12-16-2009, 11:10 PM

So if you have never smoked a cigar with plume are you sure you want it? What if you dont like it? Just a thought. I too have not been able to find the plume either.

RichardW · 12-16-2009, 11:23 PM

I don't recall ever seeing plume on a CC, but I've seen in on domestics. As mentioned before, it really doesn't add to the flavor, but I've enjoyed the sparkle while smoking outdoors on on one of those rare PNW sunny days

markem · 12-16-2009, 11:40 PM

Fans of the old Hee Haw show will recognize the tune. Feel free to sing along.

Gloom, despair and agony on me
Deep dark depression, excessive misery.
If it weren't for green plume, I'd have no plume at all
Gloom, despair and agony on me

I have had plume develop on sticks that I was aging. The most memorable was a box of Partagas 8-9-8V that I bought from a brother on the before-we-became-CA board that developed rich plume on all the sticks starting last fall and over the winter. Alas, that box is gone, but boy was it good. First box I ever had the developed plume on all the sticks more or less at the same time.

I agree with others that plume is a sign of aging conditions and does not, by itself, improve or detract from the flavor.

mithrilG60 · 12-17-2009, 12:28 PM

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Originally Posted by RichardW

I don't recall ever seeing plume on a CC, but I've seen in on domestics. As mentioned before, it really doesn't add to the flavor, but I've enjoyed the sparkle while smoking outdoors on on one of those rare PNW sunny days

I've seen lots of CC's with plume, as you mentioned though it makes no real difference to the enjoyment of the cigar. All it is the crystallization of evaporating essential oils on the wrapper surface.

Titan410 · 12-17-2009, 01:33 PM

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Originally Posted by Ranger_B

So if you have never smoked a cigar with plume are you sure you want it? What if you dont like it? Just a thought. I too have not been able to find the plume either.

Hmmm, now I'd say its no biggie. Thanks for your responses. But I'd still like to try one someday. I guess its just a "been there, done that" thing.

N2Advnture · 12-17-2009, 07:38 AM

According to MRN:

"The most current theory is that plume is caused by sudden condensation of volatile oils surrounding the cigar due to sudden fluctuations of ambient temperature or humidity. The oils condensed are subsequently re-vaporized. Leaving the minerals dissolved in the oil in a crystallized form. Hence they are needle-like if you see them closely."

The fluctuations mentioned would typically within a very, very short period of time and not long enough to cause any adverse affects to the cigar.

I hope this helps

~Mark

12-16-2009, 07:46 PM	#1
Titan410 Adjusting to the Life Join Date: Aug 2009 First Name: Vince Location: Georgetown, TX Posts: 353 Trading: (26)	I want some Plume! I've been storing some cigars in a coolerdor and Vino for two years. No plume. I've never had a cigar with plume and I've been hoping to find one or two developing it but no dice. Temps are about 68 and humidity is 65-70. Does storing cigars in the cello prevent or inhibit plume in any way? I was at a B&M in Fredericksburg in the summer and they had some on the shelves with plume and I was tempted to buy one but didn't. Now I'm regretting it. __________________ I spend most of my money on guns, ammo, and cigars. The rest I waste.

12-16-2009, 08:18 PM	#5
NCRadioMan Chutney Lovebusciut Join Date: Oct 2008 First Name: Chutney Location: On the shores of Loch Shiel Posts: 4,277 Trading: (66)	Re: I want some Plume! FWIW, plume doesn't make a cigar taste better. Some cigars will plume, others won't. It's just an indicator of good storage. __________________ The path to loyalty is trust.

12-16-2009, 08:30 PM	#6
pnoon YNWA Join Date: Oct 2008 First Name: Peter Location: San Diego Posts: 29,919 Trading: (20)	Re: I want some Plume! I've never understood the pre-occupation w/plume. NCRadioMan is correct. It is indicative of proper storage. It doesn't affect the flavor or smokeability of the cigar. __________________ Be more concerned with your character than your reputation, because your character is what you really are, while your reputation is merely what others think you are. -John Wooden

12-16-2009, 09:19 PM	#7
Namerifrats Guest Posts: n/a	Re: I want some Plume! I've had a few cigars develop a little plume. Usually a dusty white look. I don't really like it and smoke them as soon as I notice it. I like oily shiny wrappers.

12-16-2009, 09:23 PM	#8
JJG Have My Own Room Join Date: Jan 2009 First Name: Jeff Location: Houston Posts: 1,260 Trading: (4)	Re: I want some Plume! I'm no expert on aged cigars, but I've smoked a fair amount of cigars that were 5 and 10 years old and I've never seen plume. I'm not even sure that age guarantees plume, so you could wait a long time without the desired result ever happening. The other option would be to buy some vintage cigars. JRs has a good selection of aged NCs and there are also aged CCs to be had out there. This may be your best bet, but again I don't think it's a guarantee.

12-16-2009, 09:55 PM	#9
hotreds Ephesians 2:8 Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: 5 miles past "Resume Speed" Posts: 11,662 Trading: (63)	Re: I want some Plume! Ditto the above- plume does not help the taste of the 'gar in any way. I've had some-in fact a box- of cigars with plume- they were as good as- but not better then- other similar vitolas. Just like a little mold is no reason to toss a cigar, a little plume is no reason to expect an exceptional smoke! __________________ God loves you so much, that he made you read this, just to let you know.

12-16-2009, 10:09 PM	#10
Kreth Ronin smoker Join Date: Jan 2009 First Name: Jeff Location: Oneonta, NY Posts: 3,620 Trading: (14)	Re: I want some Plume! So, occasionally when smoking a cigar, I will see what looks like crystals in the ash. Is this the beginnings of plume? Posted via Mobile Device

12-16-2009, 10:45 PM	#13
bigloo Crazy like a fox Join Date: Oct 2008 First Name: Lu Location: Rose City Posts: 905 Trading: (27)	Re: I want some Plume! Kreth.... http://cigarfan.wordpress.com/2008/0...oth-and-grain/ Lu

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Ranger_B Have My Own Room Join Date: Apr 2009 First Name: Frank Location: North Carolina Posts: 1,321 Trading: (31)	Re: I want some Plume! So if you have never smoked a cigar with plume are you sure you want it? What if you dont like it? Just a thought. I too have not been able to find the plume either.

12-16-2009, 11:23 PM	#16
RichardW Committed Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: PNW Posts: 993 Trading: (10)	Re: I want some Plume! I don't recall ever seeing plume on a CC, but I've seen in on domestics. As mentioned before, it really doesn't add to the flavor, but I've enjoyed the sparkle while smoking outdoors on on one of those rare PNW sunny days __________________ "Those are my principles, and if you don't like them ... well, I have others", Groucho Marx

12-16-2009, 11:40 PM	#17
markem Bunion Join Date: Oct 2008 First Name: Mark Location: Second Star on the Right Posts: 22,623 Trading: (47)	Re: I want some Plume! Fans of the old Hee Haw show will recognize the tune. Feel free to sing along. Gloom, despair and agony on me Deep dark depression, excessive misery. If it weren't for green plume, I'd have no plume at all Gloom, despair and agony on me I have had plume develop on sticks that I was aging. The most memorable was a box of Partagas 8-9-8V that I bought from a brother on the before-we-became-CA board that developed rich plume on all the sticks starting last fall and over the winter. Alas, that box is gone, but boy was it good. First box I ever had the developed plume on all the sticks more or less at the same time. I agree with others that plume is a sign of aging conditions and does not, by itself, improve or detract from the flavor. __________________ I refuse to belong to any organization that would have me as a member. ~ Groucho Marx Last edited by markem; 12-16-2009 at 11:46 PM.

12-17-2009, 07:38 AM	#20
N2Advnture www.Cigarmony.com Join Date: Oct 2008 Posts: 642 Trading: (43)	Re: I want some Plume! According to MRN: "The most current theory is that plume is caused by sudden condensation of volatile oils surrounding the cigar due to sudden fluctuations of ambient temperature or humidity. The oils condensed are subsequently re-vaporized. Leaving the minerals dissolved in the oil in a crystallized form. Hence they are needle-like if you see them closely." The fluctuations mentioned would typically within a very, very short period of time and not long enough to cause any adverse affects to the cigar. I hope this helps ~Mark __________________ Home of the patented Humidity Bead System® humidifiers www.HBSHumidifiers.com