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Old 12-10-2008, 08:49 AM   #1
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Default Sabathia to the Yankees... probably

Guess they still want to just keep throwing $$ at big name players instead of developing their young guys like they did when they were actually good.

Maybe I'm also just bitter cuz I want him to stay in Milwaukee.
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Old 12-10-2008, 09:36 AM   #2
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Default Re: Sabathia to the Yankees... probably

The big man has big plans, and Milwaukee ain't in them.

If he isn't going to be a Cub, then I will be happy to see him out of the National League.....the guy was stellar last season.
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Old 12-10-2008, 09:52 AM   #3
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Money talks. For what its worth, I hope they suck again this year. Never been a big fan of buying players just because you have the money. Its always nice to see them fail on the field when they shell out a gazillion dollars for their players.
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Old 12-10-2008, 10:01 AM   #4
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Default Re: Sabathia to the Yankees... probably

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Guess they still want to just keep throwing $$ at big name players instead of developing their young guys like they did when they were actually good.

Maybe I'm also just bitter cuz I want him to stay in Milwaukee.
The problem is the Yankees are expected to win year in and year out. Rebuilding isn't an option in NY. And in all fairness, they tried to build around their draft players. Chen Meng Wang, Phil Hughes, Ian Kennedy, Phil Coke, Darrel Rasner, Joba Chamberlain, all Yankees picks. The problem was Hughes sucked, Kennedy sucked, Wang got hurt, Rasner was only ok, and Joba got hurt. With Moose retired, Rasners contract sold to a Japanese team, and Petite unsgined as of yet they need pitching right now to compete in the American League East. Sabathia is the best of the bunch available right now, if elects to go somewhere else I wouldn't be surprised if they signed Lowe, Garland, or Ben Sheets. Although by the looks of things we've got Sabathia all wrapped up

In all honesty though James, the Brewers never had a chance at resigning him. He turned down a 100 million dollar contract when he was still with the Indians, the Brewers just don't have that kind of money to throw around.
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Old 12-10-2008, 10:11 AM   #5
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The problem is the Yankees are expected to win year in and year out. Rebuilding isn't an option in NY. And in all fairness, they tried to build around their draft players. Chen Meng Wang, Phil Hughes, Ian Kennedy, Phil Coke, Darrel Rasner, Joba Chamberlain, all Yankees picks. The problem was Hughes sucked, Kennedy sucked, Wang got hurt, Rasner was only ok, and Joba got hurt. With Moose retired, Rasners contract sold to a Japanese team, and Petite unsgined as of yet they need pitching right now to compete in the American League East. Sabathia is the best of the bunch available right now, if elects to go somewhere else I wouldn't be surprised if they signed Lowe, Garland, or that other Brewers pitcher who name escapes me.

In all honesty though James, the Brewers never had a chance at resigning him. He turned down a 100 million dollar contract when he was still with the Indians, the Brewers just don't have that kind of money to throw around.
Brewers were even offering part ownership of the team I heard, guaranteeing Sabathia $$ after he retires even (not that he will have money problems). And I remember seeing a program on how after the success of the late 90's early 2000's that the Yankees began the pattern of dealing away their young guys for established players and have had problems ever since.
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Brewers were even offering part ownership of the team I heard, guaranteeing Sabathia $$ after he retires even (not that he will have money problems). And I remember seeing a program on how after the success of the late 90's early 2000's that the Yankees began the pattern of dealing away their young guys for established players and have had problems ever since.
False, false, and false. First of all no player can be offered a piece of ownership in any team. There was a big to do about that if you recall when A-Rod was a free agent and the Cubs wanted him. But they didn't have the cash and wanted to offer him a piece of the team, and MLB said no.

Secondly, the Yankees generally haven't dealt any of their good young players for vets. We specialize in signing over the hill free agents, not trading for them. In fact, the Yanks dealt more of their young talent during the dynasty years , not after. Really the only name that stands out from this era is Alfonso Soriano, but considering that we got A-Rod, you can write that one off. Both are great players, neither can hit worth a damn during the postseason. Find me the name of one other Yankees prospect that's turned into a great player as of late that we've traded away.
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Old 12-10-2008, 10:44 AM   #7
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I believe the show (or may even have been a report on SportsCenter) said they did start dealing away in the dynasty era, causing the bad past several seasons. Don't have any specific examples unfortunately, just remember that was the jist of what they were saying.
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I believe the show (or may even have been a report on SportsCenter) said they did start dealing away in the dynasty era, causing the bad past several seasons. Don't have any specific examples unfortunately, just remember that was the jist of what they were saying.
Depends how you look at it James. The Yanks still made the playoffs every season up until the last one, made the WS twice, and even last season they had a winning record. It just wasn't enough, too many injuries. But i wouldn't call the last several seasons bad ones.
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apparently baseball is recession proof!
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