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Old 10-20-2008, 03:40 PM   #1
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Default The Official 007 Quantum of Solace thread!

Well, we are under a month now till bond 22 drops.

I personally can't wait to see this movie. I think it will be another great film and am curious to see how a bond sequel works out since this one picks up after Casino Royale 2 minutes after that one ended.

Could be another great bond film!
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The less vices and classic characteristics point to a dwindling respect for the franchise, (not to mention a loss for the character the way Fleming wrote him) for me, rather than a "re-tooling for the current times" or whatever hogwash they are trying to shove down our throats currently. Yes, he is still a misanthropic (for the time being) misfit, but as they lose the hallmarks of the franchise, the new films very well may become nothing more than car chase/shoot'emup/hot chick (no, not a DAMN thing wrong with any of those) action fodder barely above the level of a Vin Diesel film.

I hold hope for the future of the franchise, yet I am not holding my breath.
I will quite happy to spend the dough to see QoS in the theater, but I have reservations about that money being spent and lending credence to the producers stripping down a character that does not need reinvention. By reinvention, BTW, I mean a more classically played Bond, Connery, or even Craig, but without becoming another victim of Political Correctness.
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The less vices and classic characteristics point to a dwindling respect for the franchise, (not to mention a loss for the character the way Fleming wrote him) for me, rather than a "re-tooling for the current times" or whatever hogwash they are trying to shove down our throats currently. Yes, he is still a misanthropic (for the time being) misfit, but as they lose the hallmarks of the franchise, the new films very well may become nothing more than car chase/shoot'emup/hot chick (no, not a DAMN thing wrong with any of those) action fodder barely above the level of a Vin Diesel film.

I hold hope for the future of the franchise, yet I am not holding my breath.
I will quite happy to spend the dough to see QoS in the theater, but I have reservations about that money being spent and lending credence to the producers stripping down a character that does not need reinvention. By reinvention, BTW, I mean a more classically played Bond, Connery, or even Craig, but without becoming another victim of Political Correctness.

I've been saying the exact same thing for months, ever since I saw the previews for QoS. Actually I've been saying that for years. Casino Royale has been my favorite of the recent movies, but I'm sure that's entirely because it's based on an Ian Fleming story. For whatever reason they can't or won't find anyone to write a script like he did, and I think it's tarnishing the franchise. All the political correctness in 'The World is Not Enough' made me sick, but Halle Berry sure looked good
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I've been saying the exact same thing for months, ever since I saw the previews for QoS. Actually I've been saying that for years. Casino Royale has been my favorite of the recent movies, but I'm sure that's entirely because it's based on an Ian Fleming story. For whatever reason they can't or won't find anyone to write a script like he did, and I think it's tarnishing the franchise. All the political correctness in 'The World is Not Enough' made me sick, but Halle Berry sure looked good

That'd be Denise Richards in The World is Not Enough.
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That'd be Denise Richards in The World is Not Enough.
Yup and Halle was in one of my least favorite bonds and one of the only ones I don't own on DVD... Die another Day...

As for the recent direction of the bond movies, I have to say I LOVE casino Royale. I have watched that movie like 20+ times and still love every minute of it. It was very well done and Daniel Craig is a better bond than Pierce ever was....

Looking back I though that Pierce did a good job in goldeneye, but every movie after that got worse and worse.

So I have high hope for QoS to be just as good as CR. It could be a let down, but lets hope they stick with the winning formula they had with CR.
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Yup and Halle was in one of my least favorite bonds and one of the only ones I don't own on DVD... Die another Day...

As for the recent direction of the bond movies, I have to say I LOVE casino Royale. I have watched that movie like 20+ times and still love every minute of it. It was very well done and Daniel Craig is a better bond than Pierce ever was....

Looking back I though that Pierce did a good job in goldeneye, but every movie after that got worse and worse.

So I have high hope for QoS to be just as good as CR. It could be a let down, but lets hope they stick with the winning formula they had with CR.
It's been said that Goldeneye was written for Timothy Dalton. Which could explain it being the anomaly of the Brosnan era.


Craig is a great Bond. And if QoS is anything like Casino Royale, I'll be very happy.
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Whoops, I meant Die Another Day. I thought TWINE was better, Denise Richards was a little more eye-candy, little less co-super spy.

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Looking back I though that Pierce did a good job in goldeneye, but every movie after that got worse and worse.
I'm of the opposite opinion. I think he over-acted in Golden Eye, was too 'sharp', didn't come off as smooth as he did in the later films, like DAD and TWINE. My least favorite Brosnan film was Tomorrow Never Dies. There was very little worth watching in that movie. Even the car was boring, I want Aston Martin sports cars, not BMW sedans.
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USA Today had an interesting article on the direction of the James Bond. The next three movies should be fun, I know my wife and I looking forward to them.
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He's been amped about this movie for months. Please, someone engage him in deep meaningful 007 chat or I'll have to hear it.
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He's been amped about this movie for months. Please, someone engage him in deep meaningful 007 chat or I'll have to hear it.
Umm... I think I might chat about it with you the next time we have a cigar just to piss ya off...
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Umm... I think I might chat about it with you the next time we have a cigar just to piss ya off...
I know you will. I just realised this thread only gives you more ideas of things to talk about.
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Old 10-21-2008, 02:42 PM   #13
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Official James Bond films
  1. Dr. No (1962)
  2. From Russia With Love (1963)
  3. Goldfinger (1964)
  4. Thunderball (1965)
  5. You Only Live Twice (1967)
  6. On Her Majesty's Secret Service (1969)
  7. Diamonds Are Forever (1971)
  8. Live and Let Die (1973)
  9. The Man with the Golden Gun (1974)
  10. The Spy Who Loved Me (1977)
  11. Moonraker (1979)
  12. For Your Eyes Only (1981)
  13. Octo***** (1983)
  14. A View to a Kill (1985)
  15. The Living Daylights (1987)
  16. Licence to Kill (1989)
  17. GoldenEye (1995)
  18. Tomorrow Never Dies (1997)
  19. The World is Not Enough (1999)
  20. Die Another Day (2002)
  21. Casino Royale (2006)
  22. Quantum of Solace (2008)

Damn My count was off. Fail...
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Heres a good Bond Geek Question. Why was there a 6 year gap between license to kill and Goldeneye?
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During Timothy Dalton's third movie (all bonds pretty much sign a 3 movie deal), there were legal battles between UA and Eon. Once the legal battle was over, they tried to get Dalton back for his third, but his contract had expired and he decided not to do it.

Now what the legal battle was about... idk.
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The hype has begun. Cigar Afficianado and Playboy bith have interviews with Daniel Craig and other Bond tidbits. One has more "bits" than the other.

my favorite Bond is Connery, and not just because I was named after him. (yeah, my mom was smitten). Although Craig's is more true to the character of Bond.

Neber could get into Dalton or Moore and I thoughtI would like Brosnan more than I did. Guess I'm just old school.
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The hype has begun. Cigar Afficianado and Playboy bith have interviews with Daniel Craig and other Bond tidbits. One has more "bits" than the other.

my favorite Bond is Connery, and not just because I was named after him. (yeah, my mom was smitten). Although Craig's is more true to the character of Bond.

Neber could get into Dalton or Moore and I thoughtI would like Brosnan more than I did. Guess I'm just old school.
Nah your not old skool... you are normal lol.. in order:

1. Sean Connery (who can argue he wasn't the best bond????)
2. Daniel Craig
3. Roger Moore
4. Pierce Brosnan
5. Timothy Dalton
6. George Lazenby

Oh and yes the hype has begun... it started for me back in Januaray when they announced the title of QoS.
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NO idea?
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Wasn't it contract negotiation problems with Brosnan because of Remington Steele?
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Wasn't it contract negotiation problems with Brosnan because of Remington Steele?
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During Timothy Dalton's third movie (all bonds pretty much sign a 3 movie deal), there were legal battles between UA and Eon. Once the legal battle was over, they tried to get Dalton back for his third, but his contract had expired and he decided not to do it.

Now what the legal battle was about... idk.
I don't remember what the dispute was, but it took several years to work itself out... and that is what led to the delay...
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