Fake Cohiba?

mahtofire14 · 11-14-2012, 01:32 PM

I recently discovered this Cohiba with what I thought was a fake band on it. It's very very similar to the real band however what I have noticed (previous experience, research) is that all of these bands have 3 rows of white dots above the "COHIBA" emblem, and this particular one has four. Also you don't see it in the picture but the "COHIBA" is gold (which is should be). Thoughts?

T.G · 11-14-2012, 01:41 PM

Unless there has been some very recent change, not aware of any legitimate Cohiba bands with 4 distinctly complete rows of dots above the name.

N2 GOLD · 11-14-2012, 01:59 PM

Could be a "TOURIST SPECIAL"

How did you get it???

mahtofire14 · 11-14-2012, 02:10 PM

That is exactly why I thought it was fake. Buddy (not much of a cigar smoker) went to the Dominican and bought a box of ten of these. Asked me to if he could keep them in one of my humis for him. I said sure automatically assuming they were fake. Well 3 years later he hasn't smoked one of them and I found them the other day, realized the band was actually pretty similar and decided to end all the questions. So here it is.

pnoon · 11-14-2012, 02:21 PM

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Originally Posted by mahtofire14

That is exactly why I thought it was fake. Buddy (not much of a cigar smoker) went to the Dominican and bought a box of ten of these. Asked me to if he could keep them in one of my humis for him. I said sure automatically assuming they were fake. Well 3 years later he hasn't smoked one of them and I found them the other day, realized the band was actually pretty similar and decided to end all the questions. So here it is.

Does the box have a glass top?

mahtofire14 · 11-14-2012, 02:36 PM

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Originally Posted by pnoon

Does the box have a glass top?

Yes it does.

Big Pete: It looks to be a double cap.

To me the construction looks a bit shotty for a Cohiba of any nationality IMHO

CigarSquid · 11-14-2012, 02:37 PM

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Originally Posted by mahtofire14

Yes it does.

Big Pete: It looks to be a double cap.

To me the construction looks a bit shotty for a Cohiba of any nationality IMHO

big pete · 11-14-2012, 02:22 PM

No triple cap (pic is kinda blurry)?

hotreds · 11-14-2012, 02:26 PM

Cohibo!

ziggy4112003 · 11-14-2012, 02:30 PM

Fake, the true acid test is as always the taste, I know given that Cuba is a socialist state quality control will not always to par. Which means that not every band is gonna be perfect, however, given that Cohiba is a high end cuban meant orginally an exclusive Castro the only imperfections I know of which Cohiba bands are them not being entirely str8 when put on the stick, "COHIBA" should be in gold but there should only be three rows of dots above.

here is a great site to use
http://cubancigarwebsite.com

CigarSquid · 11-14-2012, 02:44 PM

When I was in Mexico back in September... I was approached by so many, offering these. I finally had enough and told the guy, No, I do not want your fake Cubans! He replied with anger.. What do you mean fake?

I fired back with, See the glass.. REAL Cubans do not come that way! He was very upset.. Still in his sight, I ended up walking into J & J Habanos.. Made sure he seen me.

mahtofire14 · 11-14-2012, 02:47 PM

That's a good point. Didn't even consider what they came in....

N2 GOLD · 11-14-2012, 02:58 PM

Here are some pic's of the "TOURIST SPECIAL"

I personally DON'T buy Cohiba anything for this exact reason. It doesn't matter what country you are in, with the exception of Cuba 99% Cohibas are fake.

pnoon · 11-14-2012, 03:01 PM

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Originally Posted by N2 GOLD

Here are some pic's of the "TOURIST SPECIAL"

I personally DON'T buy Cohiba anything for this exact reason. It doesn't matter what country you are in, with the exception of Cuba 99% Cohibas are fake.

Well that is pure horse hockey.

AlohaStyle · 11-14-2012, 03:19 PM

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Originally Posted by pnoon

Well that is pure horse hockey.

+1

And you sure as hell can find plenty of fake Cohibas in Cuba. Interesting how someone can think the LCDH's around the world sell fake Cohibas...

bobarian · 11-14-2012, 03:32 PM

Provenance, provenance, provenance. Know and trust your sources.
Clearly the cigar pictured is a fake, and not a very good one at that. But the statement that 99% of all Cohiba's are fakes is as wrong as wrong can be. Fake Cohiba's as well as fake OpusX's come from purchasing through shady sources.

N2 GOLD · 11-14-2012, 04:49 PM

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Originally Posted by pnoon

Well that is pure horse hockey.

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Originally Posted by T.G

While the Cuban Cohiba is, or was the last time I checked, the most counterfeited cigar on the planet, I think that your "99% of all Cohibas are fake" statement is, at the very least, highly inaccurate. Do you have a credible source you can cite for this information?

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Originally Posted by markem

So, you are saying that SA Habanos is 1% of the Cohiba market? Remember that most in Cuba cannot afford a Cohiba and there are fakes even there.

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Originally Posted by AlohaStyle

+1

And you sure as hell can find plenty of fake Cohibas in Cuba. Interesting how someone can think the LCDH's around the world sell fake Cohibas...

All you gentlemen make & have a valid point. Which is why I started my statement as" I PERSONALLY DON'T BUY " I was speak for myself & personal experience with the "Cohiba Brand". I know that talking about CC's in most cases is stepping on toes. But in no way, shape or form did I try & recommend anyone else to do so. I know some folks here have a far more superior knowledge CC's than myself. So if I ruffle any feathers I can assure you those were not my intentions.

Brlesq · 11-14-2012, 06:29 PM

Was "Habana" written on there with a Sharpie?

bigunit66 · 11-17-2012, 06:31 PM

I trust more online vendors than B&M's in any third world country.

T.G · 11-14-2012, 03:04 PM

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Originally Posted by N2 GOLD

I personally DON'T buy Cohiba anything for this exact reason. It doesn't matter what country you are in, with the exception of Cuba 99% Cohibas are fake.

While the Cuban Cohiba is, or was the last time I checked, the most counterfeited cigar on the planet, I think that your "99% of all Cohibas are fake" statement is, at the very least, highly inaccurate. Do you have a credible source you can cite for this information?

11-14-2012, 01:32 PM	#1
mahtofire14 Chillin in the Aging Room Join Date: Oct 2012 First Name: Pete Location: St. Paul, MN Posts: 1,588 Trading: (16)	Fake Cohiba? I recently discovered this Cohiba with what I thought was a fake band on it. It's very very similar to the real band however what I have noticed (previous experience, research) is that all of these bands have 3 rows of white dots above the "COHIBA" emblem, and this particular one has four. Also you don't see it in the picture but the "COHIBA" is gold (which is should be). Thoughts? __________________ Saving basements in the Land of 10,000 Lakes. Last edited by mahtofire14; 11-14-2012 at 01:44 PM.

11-14-2012, 01:41 PM	#2
T.G Grrrrrr Join Date: Mar 2009 First Name: The Other Adam Posts: 15,557 Trading: (37)	Re: Fake Cohiba? Unless there has been some very recent change, not aware of any legitimate Cohiba bands with 4 distinctly complete rows of dots above the name.

11-14-2012, 01:59 PM	#3
N2 GOLD MIND OVER MATTER... Join Date: Feb 2011 First Name: RICO Location: So. CAL 33° 44' 44" N / 117° 52' 0" W Posts: 2,330 Trading: (1)	Re: Fake Cohiba? Could be a "TOURIST SPECIAL" How did you get it??? __________________ When I want your opinion, I'll give it to ya.

11-14-2012, 02:10 PM	#4
mahtofire14 Chillin in the Aging Room Join Date: Oct 2012 First Name: Pete Location: St. Paul, MN Posts: 1,588 Trading: (16)	Re: Fake Cohiba? That is exactly why I thought it was fake. Buddy (not much of a cigar smoker) went to the Dominican and bought a box of ten of these. Asked me to if he could keep them in one of my humis for him. I said sure automatically assuming they were fake. Well 3 years later he hasn't smoked one of them and I found them the other day, realized the band was actually pretty similar and decided to end all the questions. So here it is. __________________ Saving basements in the Land of 10,000 Lakes.

11-14-2012, 02:22 PM	#8
big pete Going to the darkside.... Join Date: Dec 2011 Location: Bay Area Posts: 1,277 Trading: (20)	Re: Fake Cohiba? No triple cap (pic is kinda blurry)?

11-14-2012, 02:26 PM	#9
hotreds Ephesians 2:8 Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: 5 miles past "Resume Speed" Posts: 11,662 Trading: (63)	Re: Fake Cohiba? Cohibo! __________________ God loves you so much, that he made you read this, just to let you know.

11-14-2012, 02:30 PM	#10
ziggy4112003 Sanity pffft boring Join Date: Oct 2012 First Name: Daniel Location: Lock Haven PA Posts: 49 Trading: (2)	Re: Fake Cohiba? Fake, the true acid test is as always the taste, I know given that Cuba is a socialist state quality control will not always to par. Which means that not every band is gonna be perfect, however, given that Cohiba is a high end cuban meant orginally an exclusive Castro the only imperfections I know of which Cohiba bands are them not being entirely str8 when put on the stick, "COHIBA" should be in gold but there should only be three rows of dots above. here is a great site to use http://cubancigarwebsite.com Last edited by ziggy4112003; 11-14-2012 at 02:31 PM. Reason: put the instead of three

11-14-2012, 02:44 PM	#11
CigarSquid AKA Garryyjr Join Date: Apr 2011 First Name: Garry Location: Medford, OR - Cigar Zombie Posts: 3,213 Trading: (39)	Re: Fake Cohiba? When I was in Mexico back in September... I was approached by so many, offering these. I finally had enough and told the guy, No, I do not want your fake Cubans! He replied with anger.. What do you mean fake? I fired back with, See the glass.. REAL Cubans do not come that way! He was very upset.. Still in his sight, I ended up walking into J & J Habanos.. Made sure he seen me. __________________ gaRRy

11-14-2012, 02:47 PM	#12
mahtofire14 Chillin in the Aging Room Join Date: Oct 2012 First Name: Pete Location: St. Paul, MN Posts: 1,588 Trading: (16)	Re: Fake Cohiba? That's a good point. Didn't even consider what they came in.... __________________ Saving basements in the Land of 10,000 Lakes.

11-14-2012, 02:58 PM	#13
N2 GOLD MIND OVER MATTER... Join Date: Feb 2011 First Name: RICO Location: So. CAL 33° 44' 44" N / 117° 52' 0" W Posts: 2,330 Trading: (1)	Re: Fake Cohiba? Here are some pic's of the "TOURIST SPECIAL" I personally DON'T buy Cohiba anything for this exact reason. It doesn't matter what country you are in, with the exception of Cuba 99% Cohibas are fake. __________________ When I want your opinion, I'll give it to ya.

11-14-2012, 03:32 PM	#16
bobarian Cranky Habanophile Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: Wine Country Posts: 8,869 Trading: (51)	Re: Fake Cohiba? Provenance, provenance, provenance. Know and trust your sources. Clearly the cigar pictured is a fake, and not a very good one at that. But the statement that 99% of all Cohiba's are fakes is as wrong as wrong can be. Fake Cohiba's as well as fake OpusX's come from purchasing through shady sources.

11-14-2012, 06:29 PM	#18
Brlesq Carpe cigar! Join Date: May 2012 First Name: Bruce Location: Upstate NY Posts: 1,024 Trading: (17)	Re: Fake Cohiba? Was "Habana" written on there with a Sharpie? __________________ Hey! How come "Habana" is written on here with a Sharpie ?!?

11-17-2012, 06:31 PM	#19
bigunit66 Just in from the Storm Join Date: Sep 2012 First Name: Andy Posts: 28 Trading: (0)	Re: Fake Cohiba? I trust more online vendors than B&M's in any third world country.