can't get RH down in wineador

pullins10 · 08-17-2015, 01:46 PM

Alright all you guru's.....I'm in the process of converting my wine cooler into a humidor. I've got baking soda and an empty small humidor inside it (for smell) right now. Temperature is at 63 but the RH won't go below 85%.

I've got beads ordered and I thought I would just put them in there dry.

Any ideas?

Weelok · 08-17-2015, 02:32 PM

Is your drain plug open or plugged?

CigarNut · 08-17-2015, 02:45 PM

What is the ambient RH of the room where you have the wine-cooler? If the RH in the room and the RH in the wine-cooler are the same (or close) then you may have a leak. It could be the drain plug as Dave said above, or it could be the door seal or something else.

nutcracker · 08-17-2015, 04:15 PM

Beads beads beads beads.
Oh and line it Spanish cedar, or cedar shelves. They suck moisture like anything.

pullins10 · 08-17-2015, 08:57 PM

i've had the drain plug open and plugged.....didn't change anything. been 84-88 RH either way.

CigarNut · 08-17-2015, 10:03 PM

Things don't happen quickly with cigars -- you need to be patient. Plug the drain and then check the rest of the wine-cooler for leaks (the door seal, etc.). Give everything some time -- if there is no leak it can still take weeks (or more) for everything to even out.

Weelok · 08-17-2015, 10:08 PM

hmmm, interesting. My advice would be open the drain and lower the temperature. It better be pouring water out the back into the catch bucket or your cooler isn't cooling. The humidity should lower as the temperature cools (condensation). The drain hole is to catch the condensation and get it out of the cooler. Make sure that mechanism is working properly IMHO.

CigarNut · 08-17-2015, 10:50 PM

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Originally Posted by Weelok

hmmm, interesting. My advice would be open the drain and lower the temperature. It better be pouring water out the back into the catch bucket or your cooler isn't cooling. The humidity should lower as the temperature cools (condensation). The drain hole is to catch the condensation and get it out of the cooler. Make sure that mechanism is working properly IMHO.

A humidor is a sealed environment. If you leave the drain hole unplugged then you do not have a humidor. You have a leaky box. If your ambient environment is close to where you store your cigars, then a leaky box will most likely be fine for you. However, if like many of us, your ambient environment is not what you want for you cigars, then you need a sealed humidor to create that special environment for your cigars.

If condensation collects at the bottom of your humidor, wipe it out with a cloth or sponge. At some point -- when the interior of your humidor reaches an equilibrium at your desired RH, all the excess moisture will be absorbed. I and many others have beads (HCM, Hearfelt, etc.) that help absorb this excess moisture and release it later when it is needed.

pullins10 · 08-18-2015, 07:10 AM

Great Guys! This is super helpful.

RJrocker · 08-18-2015, 07:59 AM

Yep, lots if patience. The best way I was able to regular my cooler was more cigars

which is always a good thing.

I keep my cooler plugged, but I don't turn it on. No really need.

RWhisenand · 08-18-2015, 10:14 AM

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Originally Posted by RJrocker

Yep, lots if patience. The best way I was able to regular my cooler was more cigars

which is always a good thing.

I keep my cooler plugged, but I don't turn it on. No really need.

I find the same thing! The more cigars, the easier it is to maintain steady RH.

markem · 08-18-2015, 10:05 AM

Just out of curiosity, you did calibrate your hygrometer?

pullins10 · 08-18-2015, 02:55 PM

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Originally Posted by markem

Just out of curiosity, you did calibrate your hygrometer?

yep...thanks for asking though. I keep thinking its something simple I'm not doing. The RH in the room is much lower than 65% so the fact its staying up there around 85% tells me there is a good seal (I think). I'm assuming that when the cooler kicks on and the temperature goes does that it produces condensation that is driving RH up.

I'll keep working on it.

markem · 08-18-2015, 02:56 PM

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Originally Posted by pullins10

yep...thanks for asking though. I keep thinking its something simple I'm not doing. The RH in the room is much lower than 65% so the fact its staying up there around 85% tells me there is a good seal (I think). I'm assuming that when the cooler kicks on and the temperature goes does that it produces condensation that is driving RH up.

I'll keep working on it.

What type of cooling unit do you have? Some types are not recommended for cigar use. I think that maybe Shilala or someone similar posted about that a while back on wineadors.

G G · 08-18-2015, 04:00 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by markem

What type of cooling unit do you have? Some types are not recommended for cigar use. I think that maybe Shilala or someone similar posted about that a while back on wineadors.

I think you are referring to compressor driven vs. thermo-electric. Most wineadors are the thermo-electric variety and as a lot of us realized they don't last that long. They usually go out after a few years and you have to replace the cooling unit. The compressor driven one's are said to not be good for cigars because it dries out the cigars. Here is a thread I did with Shilala's help that explains how to do the compressor driven ones that will last forever and keep your cigars at the humidity you want.

http://www.cigarasylum.com/vb/showthread.php?t=69177

08-17-2015, 01:46 PM	#1
pullins10 Enjoying the Ride Join Date: May 2015 First Name: Chad Location: Fayetteville Posts: 39 Trading: (2)	can't get RH down in wineador Alright all you guru's.....I'm in the process of converting my wine cooler into a humidor. I've got baking soda and an empty small humidor inside it (for smell) right now. Temperature is at 63 but the RH won't go below 85%. I've got beads ordered and I thought I would just put them in there dry. Any ideas?

08-17-2015, 02:32 PM	#2
Weelok I'm nuts for the place Join Date: Jul 2011 First Name: Dave Location: Reno, NV Posts: 4,083 Trading: (21)	Re: can't get RH down in wineador Is your drain plug open or plugged?

08-17-2015, 02:45 PM	#3
CigarNut Fck Cancer! Join Date: Jan 2009 First Name: Michael Location: Clermont, Florida Posts: 18,042 Trading: (111*)	Re: can't get RH down in wineador What is the ambient RH of the room where you have the wine-cooler? If the RH in the room and the RH in the wine-cooler are the same (or close) then you may have a leak. It could be the drain plug as Dave said above, or it could be the door seal or something else. __________________ Need Beads? Need Five Finger Bags? 2 of 3 Requirements for use of the CA Rolodex: 100 posts/ 60 day membership/ participation in trade (trader rating). New members can be added at any time.

08-17-2015, 04:15 PM	#4
nutcracker Shameless epicurian Join Date: Apr 2014 First Name: Neil Location: Winnipeg, Canada - Home of the Jets! Posts: 1,631 Trading: (26)	Re: can't get RH down in wineador Beads beads beads beads. Oh and line it Spanish cedar, or cedar shelves. They suck moisture like anything. __________________ "Well I ain't often right but I've never been wrong.... Jerry Garcia (R.I.P.)

08-17-2015, 08:57 PM	#5
pullins10 Enjoying the Ride Join Date: May 2015 First Name: Chad Location: Fayetteville Posts: 39 Trading: (2)	Re: can't get RH down in wineador i've had the drain plug open and plugged.....didn't change anything. been 84-88 RH either way.

08-17-2015, 10:03 PM	#6
CigarNut Fck Cancer! Join Date: Jan 2009 First Name: Michael Location: Clermont, Florida Posts: 18,042 Trading: (111*)	Re: can't get RH down in wineador Things don't happen quickly with cigars -- you need to be patient. Plug the drain and then check the rest of the wine-cooler for leaks (the door seal, etc.). Give everything some time -- if there is no leak it can still take weeks (or more) for everything to even out. __________________ Need Beads? Need Five Finger Bags? 2 of 3 Requirements for use of the CA Rolodex: 100 posts/ 60 day membership/ participation in trade (trader rating). New members can be added at any time.

08-17-2015, 10:08 PM	#7
Weelok I'm nuts for the place Join Date: Jul 2011 First Name: Dave Location: Reno, NV Posts: 4,083 Trading: (21)	Re: can't get RH down in wineador hmmm, interesting. My advice would be open the drain and lower the temperature. It better be pouring water out the back into the catch bucket or your cooler isn't cooling. The humidity should lower as the temperature cools (condensation). The drain hole is to catch the condensation and get it out of the cooler. Make sure that mechanism is working properly IMHO.

08-18-2015, 07:10 AM	#9
pullins10 Enjoying the Ride Join Date: May 2015 First Name: Chad Location: Fayetteville Posts: 39 Trading: (2)	Re: can't get RH down in wineador Great Guys! This is super helpful.

08-18-2015, 07:59 AM	#10
RJrocker Things that make u scream Join Date: Aug 2015 First Name: Rich Posts: 170 Trading: (0)	Re: can't get RH down in wineador Yep, lots if patience. The best way I was able to regular my cooler was more cigars which is always a good thing. I keep my cooler plugged, but I don't turn it on. No really need.

08-18-2015, 10:05 AM	#12
markem Bunion Join Date: Oct 2008 First Name: Mark Location: Second Star on the Right Posts: 22,621 Trading: (47)	Re: can't get RH down in wineador Just out of curiosity, you did calibrate your hygrometer? __________________ I refuse to belong to any organization that would have me as a member. ~ Groucho Marx