Phishing bad

markem · 12-13-2018, 04:10 PM

Well, it’s almost time for another year to begin, so that will mean a lot of new smokers who are anxious to learn all about our art. Unfortunately, it will also signal a time when the scammers come out of the woodwork. Between the old CS board and here, we’ve probably seen them all. I thought that this might be a good place to enshrine some of the better or even more stupid fishing scams to help the newer members recognize when they should be more cautious.

Sometimes, the fishing is done without knowing that they are violating a lot of social norms. While it may be okay to beg a stick at a lounge (not any that I go to), it is poor form to do so online. There are even tried and true ways that SEEM to not be fishing that usually are and some well-meaning people use the phrasing without understanding the indifference or even hostility that they provoke.

Things like:

I’m new and can only afford a few singles. I so wish that someone would share some good sticks with me so that I don’t waste my money.

I really like cigars and I know that I just joined, but lost my job so will have to give up cigars, I guess.

There is only one crappy place near me to buy cigars and I would travel farther to get good sticks if only I knew which ones were good.

Wow, I hope to be able to afford a cigar like that some day.

And some of us remember the scammer who, perhaps way back at CS, posted about a fire at their place and so they not only lost all the cigars but also the Xmas presents and regular clothes for the kids. Took some here in law enforcement to reveal this scam but by then the person had made off with a lot of donations (clothes, money, cigars) and were never seen again.

We all want to help push new people down the slope and cigar people are nothing if not generous to a fault, but let’s post some of our experiences with scammers in order to help others to be aware and also to help new members avoid coming across as scammers.

AdamJoshua · 12-13-2018, 05:38 PM

If i could be so bold to add....

Paraphrasing here:

“My wife posted that not me, guys!” I think we remember that plea for smokes here!

“I was moving and the box with my smokes must have fallen off on the highway...”

Good times, good times indeed!

Porch Dweller · 12-13-2018, 09:26 PM

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Originally Posted by AdamJoshua

If i could be so bold to add....

Paraphrasing here:

“My wife posted that not me, guys!” I think we remember that plea for smokes here!

“I was moving and the box with my smokes must have fallen off on the highway...”

Good times, good times indeed!

I remember that one. I was pretty new to the forum so kept my mouth shut at the time. But if I shook my head any harder I might have needed to see a chiropractor.

12-13-2018, 05:55 PM

I think so, too.

Tio Gato · 12-13-2018, 06:18 PM

I always wonder about noobs posting a picture of their new empty humi. Then commenting "what should I stock it with?". Personally my peeve is with guys helping themselves to my travel humi without asking. The bums always swipe the most expensive smokes.

And I agree, good times indeed.

Sauer Grapes · 12-13-2018, 06:31 PM

Ah... I remember the fire scam. Don’t recall all the details, but I remember.

Wharf Rat · 12-13-2018, 07:05 PM

Well, perhaps times have changed, but we used to call that mooching. One of the infamous mooches went by the name, “Jim the Newbie.” Whenever someone mentioned a cigar, he’d post, “Gee, I never had one of those.” It was funny for a while.

Now, here’s a true story. I met Jim a couple of times at JR stores in NC. One time, we were walking around and I saw a candela cigar and without thinking said that I had never had one of those. Jim immediately bought one and gave it to me. That’s right - I mooched Jim the Newbie!

Chainsaw13 · 12-13-2018, 07:20 PM

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Originally Posted by Wharf Rat

Well, perhaps times have changed, but we used to call that mooching. One of the infamous mooches went by the name, “Jim the Newbie.” Whenever someone mentioned a cigar, he’d post, “Gee, I never had one of those.” It was funny for a while.

Now, here’s a true story. I met Jim a couple of times at JR stores in NC. One time, we were walking around and I saw a candela cigar and without thinking said that I had never had one of those. Jim immediately bought one and gave it to me. That’s right - I mooched Jim the Newbie!

Ah, JtN. Herfed with him many times in Nola. Like you said, he’s actually very generous. I remember the time he gave Carlito Fuente a Golden Gator. Priceless!

T.G · 12-13-2018, 07:44 PM

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Originally Posted by Chainsaw13

I remember the time he gave Carlito Fuente a Golden Gator. Priceless!

Golden Gator? Is that sorta like a rusty trombone?

The camaro show · 12-13-2018, 08:03 PM

I can’t believe some of these lol

gomeitsmybday · 12-13-2018, 08:17 PM

Yeah I’m with T.G., what’s a Golden Gator?

Wharf Rat · 12-13-2018, 08:37 PM

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Originally Posted by gomeitsmybday

Yeah I’m with T.G., what’s a Golden Gator?

It was a dog rocket brand that folks passed around as a joke. Although somewhere, there was a newbie who thought they were really good.

gomeitsmybday · 12-13-2018, 09:05 PM

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Originally Posted by Wharf Rat

It was a dog rocket brand that folks passed around as a joke. Although somewhere, there was a newbie who thought they were really good.

Lmao that is an excellent story! I’ll be awaiting the “Opus X: Golden Dog Rocket Edicion” release!

Fig_Nasty · 12-13-2018, 08:25 PM

Sooooo funny you guys should mention this, because my house burned down with my stacked humidor of pre embargos, limited releases, and anniversary sticks. PLUS the cigar shop I usually buy at closed down due to fire as well. Any donations would be much appreciated considering the time of year. Sorry, my wife made me do it.

https://postimg.cc/Wqm9yY91

Drez · 12-13-2018, 09:03 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Fig_Nasty

Sooooo funny you guys should mention this, because my house burned down with my stacked humidor of pre embargos, limited releases, and anniversary sticks. PLUS the cigar shop I usually buy at closed down due to fire as well. Any donations would be much appreciated considering the time of year. Sorry, my wife made me do it.

https://postimg.cc/Wqm9yY91

Mods ban this newbie please. He’s obviously a scammer and up to no good

xFreebirdx · 12-13-2018, 08:42 PM

If anyone will front me a box of Power Rangers I will gladly pay you on Tuesday.

The camaro show · 12-13-2018, 10:16 PM

I heard of one that one guy moved from Florida to Alaska and left his humidor full of Cubans at his old house and wanted to know if anyone wanted to lend him a few lol

CigarNut · 12-14-2018, 09:31 AM

I ran out of cigars... Please send me some. Especially Padrons and Cubans, please!

icehog3 · 12-14-2018, 10:05 AM

Can't see the forest through the trees.

Whipper Snapper · 12-14-2018, 10:13 AM

But fishing is good.

12-13-2018, 04:10 PM	#1
markem Bunion Join Date: Oct 2008 First Name: Mark Location: Second Star on the Right Posts: 22,622 Trading: (47)	Phishing bad Well, it’s almost time for another year to begin, so that will mean a lot of new smokers who are anxious to learn all about our art. Unfortunately, it will also signal a time when the scammers come out of the woodwork. Between the old CS board and here, we’ve probably seen them all. I thought that this might be a good place to enshrine some of the better or even more stupid fishing scams to help the newer members recognize when they should be more cautious. Sometimes, the fishing is done without knowing that they are violating a lot of social norms. While it may be okay to beg a stick at a lounge (not any that I go to), it is poor form to do so online. There are even tried and true ways that SEEM to not be fishing that usually are and some well-meaning people use the phrasing without understanding the indifference or even hostility that they provoke. Things like: I’m new and can only afford a few singles. I so wish that someone would share some good sticks with me so that I don’t waste my money. I really like cigars and I know that I just joined, but lost my job so will have to give up cigars, I guess. There is only one crappy place near me to buy cigars and I would travel farther to get good sticks if only I knew which ones were good. Wow, I hope to be able to afford a cigar like that some day. And some of us remember the scammer who, perhaps way back at CS, posted about a fire at their place and so they not only lost all the cigars but also the Xmas presents and regular clothes for the kids. Took some here in law enforcement to reveal this scam but by then the person had made off with a lot of donations (clothes, money, cigars) and were never seen again. We all want to help push new people down the slope and cigar people are nothing if not generous to a fault, but let’s post some of our experiences with scammers in order to help others to be aware and also to help new members avoid coming across as scammers.

12-13-2018, 05:38 PM	#2
AdamJoshua Article 4 Free Inhabitant Join Date: Jan 2013 First Name: The Other Adam Location: Satellite Beach Posts: 14,787 Trading: (40)	Re: Phishing bad If i could be so bold to add.... Paraphrasing here: “My wife posted that not me, guys!” I think we remember that plea for smokes here! “I was moving and the box with my smokes must have fallen off on the highway...” Good times, good times indeed!

12-13-2018, 05:55 PM	#4
justify-content Guest Posts: n/a	Re: Phishing bad I think so, too.

12-13-2018, 06:18 PM	#5
Tio Gato Uncle Kitty Join Date: Oct 2008 First Name: Jeff Location: Casa Grande, AZ Posts: 2,075 Trading: (11)	Re: Phishing bad I always wonder about noobs posting a picture of their new empty humi. Then commenting "what should I stock it with?". Personally my peeve is with guys helping themselves to my travel humi without asking. The bums always swipe the most expensive smokes. And I agree, good times indeed. __________________ "You stink like cigars Uncle Kitty!" Said my Boo age 3. "Kid, take care of your family and the hell with anyone else" My Grandpa Bubba.

12-13-2018, 06:31 PM	#6
Sauer Grapes Snatchin' yo people up Join Date: Oct 2008 Posts: 2,235 Trading: (44)	Re: Phishing bad Ah... I remember the fire scam. Don’t recall all the details, but I remember.

12-13-2018, 07:05 PM	#7
Wharf Rat I'll get up and fly away Join Date: Oct 2008 First Name: Bob Location: Florence, SC Posts: 786 Trading: (7)	Re: Phishing bad Well, perhaps times have changed, but we used to call that mooching. One of the infamous mooches went by the name, “Jim the Newbie.” Whenever someone mentioned a cigar, he’d post, “Gee, I never had one of those.” It was funny for a while. Now, here’s a true story. I met Jim a couple of times at JR stores in NC. One time, we were walking around and I saw a candela cigar and without thinking said that I had never had one of those. Jim immediately bought one and gave it to me. That’s right - I mooched Jim the Newbie!

12-13-2018, 08:03 PM	#10
The camaro show Adjusting to the Life Join Date: Nov 2018 First Name: Chayse Location: West Virginia Posts: 497 Trading: (1)	Re: Phishing bad I can’t believe some of these lol

12-13-2018, 08:17 PM	#11
gomeitsmybday Feeling at Home Join Date: Aug 2018 First Name: Michael Location: Columbus, Ohio Posts: 945 Trading: (5)	Re: Phishing bad Yeah I’m with T.G., what’s a Golden Gator?

12-13-2018, 08:25 PM	#14
Fig_Nasty Still Watching My Back Join Date: Nov 2018 First Name: Nelson Location: Miami, FL Posts: 54 Trading: (1)	Re: Phishing bad Sooooo funny you guys should mention this, because my house burned down with my stacked humidor of pre embargos, limited releases, and anniversary sticks. PLUS the cigar shop I usually buy at closed down due to fire as well. Any donations would be much appreciated considering the time of year. Sorry, my wife made me do it. https://postimg.cc/Wqm9yY91 __________________ So many sticks, so little time!

12-13-2018, 08:42 PM	#16
xFreebirdx Patriot Guard Rider Join Date: Feb 2012 First Name: Eddie Location: Landrum, SC Posts: 201 Trading: (2)	Re: Phishing bad If anyone will front me a box of Power Rangers I will gladly pay you on Tuesday. __________________ Veteran: ★US ARMY 78 - 81★.......★Patriot Guard Rider ID#45266 07/06/06★

12-13-2018, 10:16 PM	#17
The camaro show Adjusting to the Life Join Date: Nov 2018 First Name: Chayse Location: West Virginia Posts: 497 Trading: (1)	Re: Phishing bad I heard of one that one guy moved from Florida to Alaska and left his humidor full of Cubans at his old house and wanted to know if anyone wanted to lend him a few lol

12-14-2018, 09:31 AM	#18
CigarNut Fck Cancer! Join Date: Jan 2009 First Name: Michael Location: Clermont, Florida Posts: 18,042 Trading: (111*)	Re: Phishing bad I ran out of cigars... Please send me some. Especially Padrons and Cubans, please! __________________ Need Beads? Need Five Finger Bags? 2 of 3 Requirements for use of the CA Rolodex: 100 posts/ 60 day membership/ participation in trade (trader rating). New members can be added at any time.

12-14-2018, 10:05 AM	#19
icehog3 Admiral Douchebag Join Date: Oct 2008 First Name: Tom Location: Clermont, Kentucky Posts: 71,304 Trading: (60)	Re: Phishing bad Can't see the forest through the trees. __________________ Thanks Dave, Julian, James, Kelly, Peter, Gerry, Dave, Mo, Frank, Týr and Mr. Mark!

12-14-2018, 10:13 AM	#20
Whipper Snapper 95% Banter 5% MMM Habanos Join Date: Feb 2009 First Name: Blake Location: Shawnee Posts: 1,037 Trading: (0)	Re: Phishing bad But fishing is good. __________________ "I don't feel that smoking makes me ashamed, and therefore I mean to smoke to the glory of God." -Charles Spurgeon.