...and the pussification continues.

shilala · 11-12-2010, 10:08 AM

I took Angela (Lisa's 9 year old daughter) to the grocery store last night. She was helping me shop and was riding on the front of the grocery cart where kids are supposed to be.
We were about to check out when the store manager informed me that she wasn't allowed to ride on the front of the cart. My response was "You're shitting me, right?"
The lady just smiled and shrugged.
This is the same store where the clerks aren't allowed to touch anything heavier than a milk jug. You have to leave that stuff in the bottom of the cart so no one gets hurt.
On the way out, Ange assumed her position riding the back of the cart while I pushed. We ran into the same lady, but she just smiled. We figured for sure we were gonna catch hell again.
Once we got outside, we both rode the cart to the car.
Ahhhh, the small victories.

hscmit · 11-12-2010, 10:29 AM

sounds like she was just doing her job and said what she was required to and then let you do as you pleased

could have been worse

11-12-2010, 10:50 AM

Blame the ridiculous lawsuits. Unfortunately, businesses need to cover their asses because there are plenty of people who would sue the store instantly if their child were injured in any way, regardless of who was really responsible.

I've been on the receiving end of 2 frivolous lawsuits and it is no fun and very costly.

Cheers,
G

DocLogic77 · 11-12-2010, 02:47 PM

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Originally Posted by Martel

Blame the ridiculous lawsuits. Unfortunately, businesses need to cover their asses because there are plenty of people who would sue the store instantly if their child were injured in any way, regardless of who was really responsible.

I've been on the receiving end of 2 frivolous lawsuits and it is no fun and very costly.

Cheers,
G

$$$

We live in a litiginous society. We also live in a society where some like to abuse the workers comp system. The rules are created for the weakest links and to protect back sides. Unfortunately, those who are clear headed and hard working get caught in the middle through the enforcement of rules created for the 1%.

Lumpold · 11-12-2010, 10:49 AM

I'd rather someones kid rode in the trolley, than ran round my ankles. Not saying yours would (she might, I dunno), but, damn me straight to hell, I've had to have arguments with parents who've wanted me to apologise to their kid after he/she ran smack bang into my stationary trolley. If you can't keep the kid under control.... in the trolley, or with a sitter.

Prefy · 11-12-2010, 11:00 AM

I don't think Scott is made at the grocery store per say, but more at the way society has become.

I used to love going shopping with my Grandpa and have him push me around on the shopping cart, I intend to do it when I have kids

11-12-2010, 11:02 AM

Sounds like fun, Scott. Most kids will be fine on the front of a shopping cart. Unfortunately, one or more will eventually fall. When they do, the store may be sued, and the blow from the impact of the linoleum covered concrete slab in the store to the head of a child may also give them permanent brain damage. I know I can't protect my daughter from everything, but she has just as much fun pushing the cart as she would on the front. Call me a ***** if you want, but I don't want my daughter to be drooling incoherently for the rest of her life.

Here are a few links. 24,000 plus injuries? Just something to think about. Love ya, Scott!

http://www.cpsc.gov/cpscpub/pubs/5075.html

http://aappolicy.aappublications.org...rics;118/2/825

http://pediatrics.about.com/od/hidde...opping_crt.htm

Bunker · 11-12-2010, 11:06 AM

We have a whole generation in this country who were taught they have no responsibity attached to their actions, it is always someone else fault

That's why everyone gets a prize in kids sports, no one ever loses.

The reality is no one ever wins.

BigFrank · 11-12-2010, 11:07 AM

The real problem is piss poor parenting...More often than not, this is the cause of injuries and such which make stores, companies etc. so afraid.

I let my kids also have fun Scott. I'm with ya on this one. It's a shame that a few rotten apples have to ruin it for all of us. I can watch my kids and insure their safety. Some cannot. Then they look for that free ride at the expense of others.

Bunker · 11-12-2010, 11:14 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BigFrank

The real problem is piss poor parenting...More often than not, this is the cause of injuries and such which make stores, companies etc. so afraid.

I let my kids also have fun Scott. I'm with ya on this one. It's a shame that a few rotten apples have to ruin it for all of us. I can watch my kids and insure their safety. Some cannot. Then they look for that free ride at the expense of others.

And YOU will take responsibilty for them if you screw up having fun and something bad happens.

Not too many of us left that will do that.

BigFrank · 11-12-2010, 11:19 AM

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Originally Posted by Bunker

And YOU will take responsibilty for them if you screw up having fun and something bad happens.

Not too many of us left that will do that.

Agreed. I'm not the type of person to file some retarded lawsuit because of my ineptness as a parent. I bust my ass for everything I own, I wouldn't have it any other way...

11-12-2010, 11:23 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BigFrank

The real problem is piss poor parenting...More often than not, this is the cause of injuries and such which make stores, companies etc. so afraid.

I let my kids also have fun Scott. I'm with ya on this one. It's a shame that a few rotten apples have to ruin it for all of us. I can watch my kids and insure their safety. Some cannot. Then they look for that free ride at the expense of others.

This reminds me of what my daughter's maternal grandmother used to say about her car seat. She just said, "I drive safely. We're not going to get into an accident!" Lady, it's not called an ACCIDENT for sh!ts and giggles! Accidents are just that, they are accidents. Nobody plans them. Just because you're safe with your cart, etc, doesn't mean sh!t doesn't happen. It doesn't take much height for direct impact to affect the brain. I knew a very seasoned and able carpenter who fell off a 3' ladder a few years back and died. That's a pretty short ladder. Also, I don't think he planned it.

BigFrank · 11-12-2010, 11:25 AM

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Originally Posted by mariogolbee

This reminds me of what my daughter's maternal grandmother used to say about her car seat. She just said, "I drive safely. We're not going to get into an accident!" Lady, it's not called an ACCIDENT for sh!ts and giggles! Accidents are just that, they are accidents. Nobody plans them. Just because you're safe with your cart, etc, doesn't mean sh!t doesn't happen. It doesn't take much height for direct impact to affect the brain. I knew a very seasoned and able carpenter who fell off a 3' ladder a few years back and died. That's a pretty short ladder. Also, I don't think he planned it.

I agree with you on the car seat thing. But I'm not running around the store full sprint with my kids hanging onto the cart.

icehog3 · 11-12-2010, 11:25 AM

I used to ride on the front of carts all the time as a kid, and look how I turned out.

Um....okay. Piss poor example.

neoflex · 11-12-2010, 11:27 AM

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Originally Posted by icehog3

I used to ride on the front of carts all the time as a kid, and look how I turned out.

Um....okay. Piss poor example.

T.G · 11-12-2010, 11:31 AM

I would have just told the store manager that you wanted her up there where you could observe her without getting too close since she has a highly infections and drug resistant form of TB, you know, kind of like the TB Airplane guy a year or so ago, the one whose FIL is a TB scientist at the CDC. "Angelea, be a dear and cough for the store mager now..."

Volt · 11-12-2010, 11:43 AM

Hmmm, I skateboarded without a helmet and pads, rode my bike with an extra set of forks banged onto my banana seat bike for the chopper look (again with no helmet), went swimming in lakes, quarrys, climed trees and all kinds of "dangerous" ****. I don't care what a parent does short of stuffing their kid in a glass bubble, stuff is gonna happen. It's called life. I seriously hope I leave life on my motorcycle with a grin and peace of mind rather than laying up in some soft bed, drooling on myself, not knowing who I am due to dememtia.

joeobx · 11-12-2010, 04:28 PM

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Originally Posted by Volt

rode my bike with an extra set of forks banged onto my banana seat bike for the chopper look

Only 1 extra set ? Wimp, I had two, you just had to remember to re-hammer them every couple of days so they wouldn't come apart...and when you forgot it only hurt for a little while

shilala · 11-12-2010, 07:45 PM

I mentioned this story to Lisa and she said "if some kid got hurt riding on a grocery cart around here, the store would get sued immediately. That's how it is around here."
I guess it's just a sad sign of the times.
In the lady's defense, she was very pleasant, and smiled the whole time. There was nothing defensive or rude or offensive about the whole deal. She's a sweetheart, and I was happy to have gotten to talk to her, even if I was getting hell.
I'm just in the camp that says "kids get hurt". My kids have gotten hurt lots of times. Bitten by dogs, fell off stuff, all the dumb things kids do. They even have *gasp* been hurt by other kids!!!
I've gotten hurt lots of times myself. Many times it was someone else's fault.
I never found reason to sue anyone, nor have a huge percentage of the public.
I think my point is that when people are forced to invoke rules to protect themselves from such inglorious assholes that a kid can't ride a grocery cart anymore for fear of a frivolous lawsuit, something is desperately wrong.
What if a can of beans hits my kid in the head? Or me?
I think it's time to lobby Congress for a Federal Grocery Store Helmet Law.

sikk50 · 11-12-2010, 12:52 PM

When I was a pup that use to be my favorite!

Whom I kidding I use to have my ex push me like that as recently as this spring

11-12-2010, 10:08 AM	#1
shilala Dear Lord, Thank You. Join Date: Oct 2008 First Name: Scott Posts: 13,721 Trading: (252)	...and the pussification continues. I took Angela (Lisa's 9 year old daughter) to the grocery store last night. She was helping me shop and was riding on the front of the grocery cart where kids are supposed to be. We were about to check out when the store manager informed me that she wasn't allowed to ride on the front of the cart. My response was "You're shitting me, right?" The lady just smiled and shrugged. This is the same store where the clerks aren't allowed to touch anything heavier than a milk jug. You have to leave that stuff in the bottom of the cart so no one gets hurt. On the way out, Ange assumed her position riding the back of the cart while I pushed. We ran into the same lady, but she just smiled. We figured for sure we were gonna catch hell again. Once we got outside, we both rode the cart to the car. Ahhhh, the small victories. __________________

11-12-2010, 10:29 AM	#2
hscmit Have My Own Room Join Date: Sep 2010 First Name: James Location: no where Posts: 2,200 Trading: (4)	Re: ...and the pussification continues. sounds like she was just doing her job and said what she was required to and then let you do as you pleased could have been worse

11-12-2010, 10:50 AM	#3
Martel Guest Posts: n/a	Re: ...and the pussification continues. Blame the ridiculous lawsuits. Unfortunately, businesses need to cover their asses because there are plenty of people who would sue the store instantly if their child were injured in any way, regardless of who was really responsible. I've been on the receiving end of 2 frivolous lawsuits and it is no fun and very costly. Cheers, G

11-12-2010, 10:49 AM	#5
Lumpold Hippy Fascist Join Date: Nov 2008 First Name: Lumpy Location: UK Posts: 598 Trading: (3)	Re: ...and the pussification continues. I'd rather someones kid rode in the trolley, than ran round my ankles. Not saying yours would (she might, I dunno), but, damn me straight to hell, I've had to have arguments with parents who've wanted me to apologise to their kid after he/she ran smack bang into my stationary trolley. If you can't keep the kid under control.... in the trolley, or with a sitter. __________________ TAMF,PPAB,ETWWWUTL,LITMPTYCL

11-12-2010, 11:00 AM	#6
Prefy Connoisseur of Pucks Join Date: Oct 2008 First Name: Matt Location: Winnipeg, Manitoba Posts: 549 Trading: (5)	Re: ...and the pussification continues. I don't think Scott is made at the grocery store per say, but more at the way society has become. I used to love going shopping with my Grandpa and have him push me around on the shopping cart, I intend to do it when I have kids

11-12-2010, 11:02 AM	#7
mariogolbee Guest Posts: n/a	Re: ...and the pussification continues. Sounds like fun, Scott. Most kids will be fine on the front of a shopping cart. Unfortunately, one or more will eventually fall. When they do, the store may be sued, and the blow from the impact of the linoleum covered concrete slab in the store to the head of a child may also give them permanent brain damage. I know I can't protect my daughter from everything, but she has just as much fun pushing the cart as she would on the front. Call me a ***** if you want, but I don't want my daughter to be drooling incoherently for the rest of her life. Here are a few links. 24,000 plus injuries? Just something to think about. Love ya, Scott! http://www.cpsc.gov/cpscpub/pubs/5075.html http://aappolicy.aappublications.org...rics;118/2/825 http://pediatrics.about.com/od/hidde...opping_crt.htm

11-12-2010, 11:06 AM	#8
Bunker New hardware installed. Join Date: Sep 2010 First Name: Rick Location: Moonbatachusetts Posts: 950 Trading: (18)	Re: ...and the pussification continues. We have a whole generation in this country who were taught they have no responsibity attached to their actions, it is always someone else fault That's why everyone gets a prize in kids sports, no one ever loses. The reality is no one ever wins. __________________ "Good is good, even if no one is doing it - and wrong is wrong, even if everyone is doing it."

11-12-2010, 11:07 AM	#9
BigFrank 5 3 1 Join Date: Nov 2008 First Name: Frank Location: Gym or Sofa. Posts: 1,896 Trading: (25)	Re: ...and the pussification continues. The real problem is piss poor parenting...More often than not, this is the cause of injuries and such which make stores, companies etc. so afraid. I let my kids also have fun Scott. I'm with ya on this one. It's a shame that a few rotten apples have to ruin it for all of us. I can watch my kids and insure their safety. Some cannot. Then they look for that free ride at the expense of others. __________________ " Hope is the first step on the road to disappointment. "

11-12-2010, 11:25 AM	#14
icehog3 Admiral Douchebag Join Date: Oct 2008 First Name: Tom Location: Clermont, Kentucky Posts: 71,282 Trading: (60)	Re: ...and the pussification continues. I used to ride on the front of carts all the time as a kid, and look how I turned out. Um....okay. Piss poor example. __________________ Thanks Dave, Julian, James, Kelly, Peter, Gerry, Dave, Mo, Frank, Týr and Mr. Mark!

11-12-2010, 11:31 AM	#16
T.G Grrrrrr Join Date: Mar 2009 First Name: The Other Adam Posts: 15,557 Trading: (37)	Re: ...and the pussification continues. I would have just told the store manager that you wanted her up there where you could observe her without getting too close since she has a highly infections and drug resistant form of TB, you know, kind of like the TB Airplane guy a year or so ago, the one whose FIL is a TB scientist at the CDC. "Angelea, be a dear and cough for the store mager now..."

11-12-2010, 11:43 AM	#17
Volt I'm nuts for the place Join Date: Oct 2008 Posts: 2,799 Trading: (19)	Re: ...and the pussification continues. Hmmm, I skateboarded without a helmet and pads, rode my bike with an extra set of forks banged onto my banana seat bike for the chopper look (again with no helmet), went swimming in lakes, quarrys, climed trees and all kinds of "dangerous" **. I don't care what a parent does short of stuffing their kid in a glass bubble, stuff is gonna happen. It's called life. I seriously hope I leave life on my motorcycle with a grin and peace of mind rather than laying up in some soft bed, drooling on myself, not knowing who I am due to dememtia. __________________ Curing the infection... One bullet at a time.**

11-12-2010, 07:45 PM	#19
shilala Dear Lord, Thank You. Join Date: Oct 2008 First Name: Scott Posts: 13,721 Trading: (252)	Re: ...and the pussification continues. I mentioned this story to Lisa and she said "if some kid got hurt riding on a grocery cart around here, the store would get sued immediately. That's how it is around here." I guess it's just a sad sign of the times. In the lady's defense, she was very pleasant, and smiled the whole time. There was nothing defensive or rude or offensive about the whole deal. She's a sweetheart, and I was happy to have gotten to talk to her, even if I was getting hell. I'm just in the camp that says "kids get hurt". My kids have gotten hurt lots of times. Bitten by dogs, fell off stuff, all the dumb things kids do. They even have gasp been hurt by other kids!!! I've gotten hurt lots of times myself. Many times it was someone else's fault. I never found reason to sue anyone, nor have a huge percentage of the public. I think my point is that when people are forced to invoke rules to protect themselves from such inglorious assholes that a kid can't ride a grocery cart anymore for fear of a frivolous lawsuit, something is desperately wrong. What if a can of beans hits my kid in the head? Or me? I think it's time to lobby Congress for a Federal Grocery Store Helmet Law. __________________

11-12-2010, 12:52 PM	#20
sikk50 Just Bored Really... Join Date: Oct 2008 First Name: Andrew Location: The Jefferson State Posts: 2,084 Trading: (13)	Re: ...and the pussification continues. When I was a pup that use to be my favorite! Whom I kidding I use to have my ex push me like that as recently as this spring __________________ "Not a Headache in a Hogshead"