RH problems?

smitty81 · 02-22-2012, 08:38 AM

So I've had my humi for about 2 weeks now. I kept two bowls of distilled water in there. Siliconed the **** outta the glass..................

Seems the best I can achieve is %70 RH (if my digi hyg is correct)

does this sound right?

It just seems like its still leaking somewhere to me.

I got it up to 65%, thought it was good, threw sticks in with 65% beads and my rh dropped to 60%.

My sticks dried out and got hard and crunchy.

I immediatle removed them and put them in a zip loc bag.

It's sitting at %70 after more silicone and sitting for two days with water.

Im on the verge of returning this humi.

chaase321 · 02-22-2012, 08:44 AM

Sorry for your troubles Josh. I don't think your sticks would dry out that fast at anywhere from 60% to 70% humidity...maybe the sticks were too dry before you put them in, hopefully they weren't the ones i sent, they should have been right at 67% when they left.

Anyway, I have two pieces of advice...
1.) put the sticks in tupperware and really give the humi time to season...be patient, I know it is difficult, was for me too!
2.) if you really think it is the humi, send it back...take the money to wallyworld and get a cooler. I just reorganized (i.e. play cigar tetris) mine (a 48 qt, or maybe 46qt) yesterday and can barely fit anymore in (btw...i joined the asylum in October last year!!!) Those humi's will fill up fast bro

Maybe someone else will have a better idea for you, but you if you are truly tired of the hassle you have my advice

smitty81 · 02-22-2012, 08:56 AM

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Originally Posted by chaase321

Sorry for your troubles Josh. I don't think your sticks would dry out that fast at anywhere from 60% to 70% humidity...maybe the sticks were too dry before you put them in, hopefully they weren't the ones i sent, they should have been right at 67% when they left.

Anyway, I have two pieces of advice...
1.) put the sticks in tupperware and really give the humi time to season...be patient, I know it is difficult, was for me too!
2.) if you really think it is the humi, send it back...take the money to wallyworld and get a cooler. I just reorganized (i.e. play cigar tetris) mine (a 48 qt, or maybe 46qt) yesterday and can barely fit anymore in (btw...i joined the asylum in October last year!!!) Those humi's will fill up fast bro

Maybe someone else will have a better idea for you, but you if you are truly tired of the hassle you have my advice

Your sticks and more that were at 65-70% were put in there.
Don't worry, they wernt in there long, I've been monitering it everyday. I took them out asap and put them in a baggie, they are doing good now.

As far as the humi, It's been seasoning for over two weeks.............

CigarNut · 02-22-2012, 08:51 AM

Cole is right -- your sticks won't dry out that fast. Also, as he said you need to be patient.

Even in a well-sealed humidor it is not uncommon for the RH to change after adding or removing sticks.

Two question: how fast does the RH in your empty humidor drop after you take the water dish out? Where does it bottom out say after 24 hours empty?

smitty81 · 02-22-2012, 08:59 AM

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Originally Posted by CigarNut

Cole is right -- your sticks won't dry out that fast. Also, as he said you need to be patient.

Even in a well-sealed humidor it is not uncommon for the RH to change after adding or removing sticks.

Two question: how fast does the RH in your empty humidor drop after you take the water dish out? Where does it bottom out say after 24 hours empty?

dunno, that would be a big step back in my current seasoning process would it not?

CigarNut · 02-22-2012, 09:08 AM

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Originally Posted by smitty81

dunno, that would be a big step back in my current seasoning process would it not?

Not necessarily. In fact, it might help you determine if there is even a problem...

chippewastud79 · 02-22-2012, 09:19 AM

2 weeks is too short of a time to make sticks 'crunchy' in a ziploc bag, let alone an 'underhumidified' humidor.

If you get it to 70%, how much higher do you want it to get?

60% is not too low. Many will have humidors that hover in the 60-65% range and prefer it as such.

You admit that your hygrometer may not even be properly calibrated, so until you know how far off it is, you really can't get a whole lot of help.

Just relax, cigars are relatively forgiving with humidity swings.

smitty81 · 02-22-2012, 11:02 AM

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Originally Posted by chippewastud79

2 weeks is too short of a time to make sticks 'crunchy' in a ziploc bag, let alone an 'underhumidified' humidor.

The humi was humidified.

If you get it to 70%, how much higher do you want it to get?

Just trying to see if it will hold humidity is all. I would think if a humi cant get over 70% and sustain that level, there must be a leak.

60% is not too low. Many will have humidors that hover in the 60-65% range and prefer it as such.

I don't, I like 70%

You admit that your hygrometer may not even be properly calibrated, so until you know how far off it is, you really can't get a whole lot of help.

This is true, but I can still monitor the change in rh% even if it is off. I take the bowls of water out, put my beads in and they are dry within 2-3 days, rh drops 5% in one day with beads in. Seems like it leaks to me.

I would think 14 days would be enough to hold moisture without it fluctuating 5% in one day with no cigars in it.

Just relax, cigars are relatively forgiving with humidity swings.

pnoon · 02-22-2012, 08:52 AM

Patience is key.
It is normal for RH to drop when cgars are added. The cigars will absorb moisture.
Also, 60% RH would not make the cigars dry. Many here PREFER their RH to be in the 62-65% range.
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MurphysLaw · 02-22-2012, 08:56 AM

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Originally Posted by smitty81

(if my digi hyg is correct)

Do yourself a favor and buy a hygrometer calibration kit so you can be certain about your RH readings. They are relatively inexpensive and well worth the peace of mind.

smitty81 · 02-22-2012, 09:00 AM

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Originally Posted by MurphysLaw

Do yourself a favor and buy a hygrometer calibration kit so you can be certain about your RH readings. They are relatively inexpensive and well worth the peace of mind.

I did, it should be here soon.

smitty81 · 02-22-2012, 09:37 AM

Sending it back. Got a bigger and nicer one with no glass.
http://www.thompsoncigar.com/product...OUNT/81374.uts

14holestogie · 02-22-2012, 09:53 AM

One hour from asking for help and ideas to returning it?

No miracle cure so let's start over.

chippewastud79 · 02-22-2012, 10:02 AM

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Originally Posted by smitty81

Sending it back. Got a bigger and nicer one with no glass.
http://www.thompsoncigar.com/product...OUNT/81374.uts

Couple issues:

You asked for some advice on how to fix your 'problem', didn't heed much of it, and decided it was time to start over.
You are sending back a humidor you modified.
You don't even know if your hygrometer is properly calibrated.
Your humidor, in theory, held humidity at 70% and dropped to only 60% when you added the cigars.
You ordered a humidor from one of the less liked vendors, Thompsons. Good luck getting off that mailing/phone/email list.
The humidor you order may not be nicer than the one you had given that I have never seen or heard of anyone with a similar humidor.

I think you are being a bit overly ambitious.

smitty81 · 02-22-2012, 10:38 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by chippewastud79

Couple issues:

You asked for some advice on how to fix your 'problem', didn't heed much of it, and decided it was time to start over.
You are sending back a humidor you modified.
You don't even know if your hygrometer is properly calibrated.
Your humidor, in theory, held humidity at 70% and dropped to only 60% when you added the cigars.
You ordered a humidor from one of the less liked vendors, Thompsons. Good luck getting off that mailing/phone/email list.
The humidor you order may not be nicer than the one you had given that I have never seen or heard of anyone with a similar humidor.

I think you are being a bit overly ambitious.

Having a bad day?

Your being an ass.

Wasnt asking how to fix it, was wondering if it was normal for the RH to drop that much. I was just giving some background info in what I have done. Go troll someone elses thread.

CigarNut · 02-22-2012, 11:02 AM

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Originally Posted by smitty81

Having a bad day?

Your being an ass.

Wasnt asking how to fix it, was wondering if it was normal for the RH to drop that much. I was just giving some background info in what I have done. Go troll someone elses thread.

You need to be real careful here.

You asked questions, ignored the answers and then you call someone an ass when they simply point out the obvious? Geez...

smitty81 · 02-22-2012, 11:03 AM

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Originally Posted by CigarNut

You need to be real careful here.

You asked questions, ignored the answers and then you call someone an ass when they simply point out the obvious? Geez...

I did not ignore the answers. I read every one of them.

CigarNut · 02-22-2012, 10:04 AM

It is clear that he is trying to rush through a process that cannot be rushed...

14holestogie · 02-22-2012, 10:20 AM

I concur. A new humi with none of the other issues resolved will very likely net similar results.

ApexAZ · 02-22-2012, 10:28 AM

I'd spend an extra few bucks on a savoy or craftsmans bench, personally.

I would think that 2 weeks would be enough time to season it.

02-22-2012, 08:38 AM	#1
smitty81 Have My Own Room Join Date: Feb 2012 Posts: 1,640 Trading: (10)	RH problems? So I've had my humi for about 2 weeks now. I kept two bowls of distilled water in there. Siliconed the **** outta the glass.................. Seems the best I can achieve is %70 RH (if my digi hyg is correct) does this sound right? It just seems like its still leaking somewhere to me. I got it up to 65%, thought it was good, threw sticks in with 65% beads and my rh dropped to 60%. My sticks dried out and got hard and crunchy. I immediatle removed them and put them in a zip loc bag. It's sitting at %70 after more silicone and sitting for two days with water. Im on the verge of returning this humi.

02-22-2012, 08:44 AM	#2
chaase321 ZOTL's mmmmm brainssss Join Date: Oct 2011 First Name: Cole Location: Woodbridge VA Posts: 2,114 Trading: (81)	Re: RH problems? Sorry for your troubles Josh. I don't think your sticks would dry out that fast at anywhere from 60% to 70% humidity...maybe the sticks were too dry before you put them in, hopefully they weren't the ones i sent, they should have been right at 67% when they left. Anyway, I have two pieces of advice... 1.) put the sticks in tupperware and really give the humi time to season...be patient, I know it is difficult, was for me too! 2.) if you really think it is the humi, send it back...take the money to wallyworld and get a cooler. I just reorganized (i.e. play cigar tetris) mine (a 48 qt, or maybe 46qt) yesterday and can barely fit anymore in (btw...i joined the asylum in October last year!!!) Those humi's will fill up fast bro Maybe someone else will have a better idea for you, but you if you are truly tired of the hassle you have my advice __________________ ZOTL our appetites will ALWAYS be bigger than your braaaiiiins... Support the Troop Support Contest 2014!!!

02-22-2012, 08:51 AM	#4
CigarNut Fck Cancer! Join Date: Jan 2009 First Name: Michael Location: Clermont, Florida Posts: 18,042 Trading: (111*)	Re: RH problems? Cole is right -- your sticks won't dry out that fast. Also, as he said you need to be patient. Even in a well-sealed humidor it is not uncommon for the RH to change after adding or removing sticks. Two question: how fast does the RH in your empty humidor drop after you take the water dish out? Where does it bottom out say after 24 hours empty? __________________ Need Beads? Need Five Finger Bags? 2 of 3 Requirements for use of the CA Rolodex: 100 posts/ 60 day membership/ participation in trade (trader rating). New members can be added at any time.

02-22-2012, 09:19 AM	#7
chippewastud79 Fatter than you! Join Date: Oct 2008 First Name: Larry Location: A little place called home. Posts: 5,397 Trading: (44)	Re: RH problems? 2 weeks is too short of a time to make sticks 'crunchy' in a ziploc bag, let alone an 'underhumidified' humidor. If you get it to 70%, how much higher do you want it to get? 60% is not too low. Many will have humidors that hover in the 60-65% range and prefer it as such. You admit that your hygrometer may not even be properly calibrated, so until you know how far off it is, you really can't get a whole lot of help. Just relax, cigars are relatively forgiving with humidity swings. __________________ If we weren't supposed to eat animals, then how come they're made of meat? You can never have too many cigars, they are like an investment in good times.

02-22-2012, 08:52 AM	#9
pnoon YNWA Join Date: Oct 2008 First Name: Peter Location: San Diego Posts: 29,919 Trading: (20)	Re: RH problems? Patience is key. It is normal for RH to drop when cgars are added. The cigars will absorb moisture. Also, 60% RH would not make the cigars dry. Many here PREFER their RH to be in the 62-65% range. Posted via Mobile Device

02-22-2012, 09:37 AM	#12
smitty81 Have My Own Room Join Date: Feb 2012 Posts: 1,640 Trading: (10)	Re: RH problems? Sending it back. Got a bigger and nicer one with no glass. http://www.thompsoncigar.com/product...OUNT/81374.uts

02-22-2012, 09:53 AM	#13
14holestogie Serial banter killer Join Date: Oct 2008 First Name: Tim Location: Clintonville, WI Posts: 4,341 Trading: (52)	Re: RH problems? One hour from asking for help and ideas to returning it? No miracle cure so let's start over. __________________ *I loves me a Parti*

02-22-2012, 10:04 AM	#18
CigarNut Fck Cancer! Join Date: Jan 2009 First Name: Michael Location: Clermont, Florida Posts: 18,042 Trading: (111*)	Re: RH problems? It is clear that he is trying to rush through a process that cannot be rushed... __________________ Need Beads? Need Five Finger Bags? 2 of 3 Requirements for use of the CA Rolodex: 100 posts/ 60 day membership/ participation in trade (trader rating). New members can be added at any time.

02-22-2012, 10:20 AM	#19
14holestogie Serial banter killer Join Date: Oct 2008 First Name: Tim Location: Clintonville, WI Posts: 4,341 Trading: (52)	Re: RH problems? I concur. A new humi with none of the other issues resolved will very likely net similar results. __________________ *I loves me a Parti*

02-22-2012, 10:28 AM	#20
ApexAZ Wandering aimlessly Join Date: Oct 2011 First Name: Brian Location: Sonoran Desert Posts: 1,299 Trading: (10)	Re: RH problems? I'd spend an extra few bucks on a savoy or craftsmans bench, personally. I would think that 2 weeks would be enough time to season it.