University of Phoenix Alumni?

10-13-2010, 10:37 AM

Is there anyone here who is a UOP Alumni?

If so can you provide any experience and information on the school?

I'm looking for pros and cons as well as general information about how the courses are taught, etc.

I realize it will vary probably by degree program, but I'm looking for a general idea.

Community college isn't working for me, so I'm exploring other options.

forgop · 10-13-2010, 10:43 AM

I'm not an alum of UoP, but let me just say that there is little to no credibility to a degree from any online program IMO(unless it's done through a major university).

I would personally stay away from any school that is looking for a profit because it only signals they are more concerned with enrollment than quality of education. My B-I-L was a president of a couple of online schools and just hearing him talk about the garbage they go through, it's all about recruiting and retention above all else. He's now at a local CC that I wouldn't give

to go to either. At the end of the day, you're paying for an education and the last thing you want is a very expensive piece of paper because for a lot of online programs, that's all it is worth.

What do you intend to study?

VirtualSmitty · 10-13-2010, 10:55 AM

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Originally Posted by forgop

I'm not an alum of UoP, but let me just say that there is little to no credibility to a degree from any online program IMO(unless it's done through a major university).

That's certainly not true. I'm not a UOP alumni either, but I do a fair amount of hiring and we don't look negatively at people who are online grads. I know plenty of people who have gone through UOP, and one of the nurses I work with teaches a few online courses, I could find out some info for you Darrell. What were you looking at studying?

Lucky_Hippo · 10-13-2010, 11:19 AM

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Originally Posted by forgop

I would personally stay away from any school that is looking for a profit because it only signals they are more concerned with enrollment than quality of education.

As someone who's been to several "real" colleges and have read this on a number of forums, I have to say it simply isn't fair to paint online colleges with this brush without painting brick and morter schools with the same color paint. All colleges are about making a profit. Let's not confuse school pride with a better education.

I havn't taken any courses at UoP but I know several people already headlong into their careers and family life who've used these opportunites to further their own education and family income that they wouldn't have had otherwise. They've worked hard and shown that a driven person can still reach for goals without sacrificing what's important to them.

Welcome to the 21st century my friend. This "new" approach at higher education will only grow as technology keeps expanding. Any college will only take you as far as your own drive to use it.

Now missing out on the toga parties and panty raids is a completely differnt matter all together.

Gophernut · 10-13-2010, 11:37 AM

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Originally Posted by forgop

I'm not an alum of UoP, but let me just say that there is little to no credibility to a degree from any online program IMO(unless it's done through a major university).

I would personally stay away from any school that is looking for a profit because it only signals they are more concerned with enrollment than quality of education.

I work for a for profit education school, and this couldn't be further from the truth. Are we concerned with enrollment absolutely, are we concerned with quality of education? Of course we are. It's the only way I know to keep the profits coming in. If we don't graduate capable students, we can't help them find a career. If we don't help them find a career, we have simply failed them and any word of mouth is going to be negative. We have, like UoP both online and in residence courses. We work hard to make sure our programs are current, and are being presented in a way that employers want to speak with our graduates.
I am sorry, but saying all schools who are for profit are only in it for the money, is simply not true. I work daily with people who's dedication to the students is amazing. They stay late, they get here early, they take the time to tutor students on their own time. I wouldn't hesitate to look at a for profit school to enroll in. My daughter goes to the one I work for.
Having said that, make sure the college is accredited. If it's not, then your degree won't carry any weight. Just because it's online doesn't mean it's not accredited. UoP is accredited.

Ashcan Bill · 10-13-2010, 12:18 PM

Darrell, without getting involved in stereotypes, snobbish personal opinions and uninformed claptrap, let me offer you a some first hand experience.

My wife picked up her Master of Science in IS from UOP (she has a Chemical BS from a brick and mortar university).

She worked her butt off for two years for that MIS. UOP holds their students to a high standard and makes them work, unlike many online and for profit schools. Their instructors are dedicated and first rate. It's also expensive. If you enroll at UOP, understand you're making a serious time and financial commitment. The classes were every bit as demanding as any university level course either of us have ever taken. It's a substantial work load.

As far as whether the degree carries any weight? My wife was offered teaching positions at three different colleges after completing the degree, all of which require a Master degree as a basic job requirement. After retiring in CA and moving to NV, she decided to go back to work out of boredom. Three months ago she was offered an Administrator's job in the IS department of the local state community college here in Vegas on the strength of her Master's degree and previous experience. Bear in mind the current economic conditions and fact that Las Vegas has something like a 14% unemployment rate at the moment, with fierce competition for every job. In her experience, the UOP degree has certainly been embraced by all employers she's had contact with.

Best of luck.

Bill

Skywalker · 10-13-2010, 01:58 PM

Community College is a heck of a lot cheaper!

I have talked to a few people who have gone through UoP (btw - UOP is University of the Pacific) and have gone into debt.

Your Community College should offer many of their courses online, if not others do.

E.J. · 10-13-2010, 11:08 AM

For what it is worth, not an alumni of UoP, but my ex is and she was hired by a large corp. for a very nice position related to her advanced degree from UoP.

I also work with many social workers who have advanced degrees from UoP and they are licensed on those degrees.

I know of a few other individuals who I am acquaintances of who have advanced degrees from UoP, all of which have had their degrees recognized in their hiring process and subsequent career path.

I am under the impression that UoP has real accreditation, as opposed to some of the other institutions, and their accreditations, that UoP at times get associated with.

forgop · 10-13-2010, 11:13 AM

I had the opportunity to get a PhD from an online program and feedback I was given questioned the legitimacy of such a program because it was strictly an online school. This was after completing my masters in aeronautical science. I considered becoming a professor for any one of the three schools within 75 miles of Indy with aviation programs.

E.J. · 10-13-2010, 11:17 AM

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Originally Posted by forgop

I had the opportunity to get a PhD from an online program and feedback I was given questioned the legitimacy of such a program because it was strictly an online school.

I was not aware that UoP was online? Locally they have a very nice B&M facility. In the end, I think every school has to be looked at on its own merits....

sikk50 · 10-13-2010, 11:34 AM

In my experience, I'm going to agree with Duane. My current employer as well as the career I'm looking at getting into don't fully recognize a degree from online schools.

I say fully bc if you have a degree from there you will be placed above those without degrees, however you won't be placed with others who have an equivalent degree from an acredited school. And that's where the difference comes. It's not an accredited school, of you got there and get a BA it won't be recognized by other institutions, e.g. If you went to a CSU or UC to get an MA you would have to redo your BA degree.

Not to discourage you Mean D but if you want to do online try to do it through an accredited school, IF that's what you're after, if you're just trying to get a degree and an extra line on your portfolio then go for it! It's all up to you and what you want from it

BloodSpite · 10-13-2010, 11:36 AM

I am a UofP alumni.
Graduated in 2009. Currently pursuing my bachelors in Business through them as well.

I have attended brick and mortar schools as well. Went to North Metro tech in Acworth GA in the 90's before I signed my life away

Went to University of Tennessee as well for a bit. Didn't complete either mostly due to deployments and duty station changes.

UofP isn't bad. The trick is to maintain focus and most of all make time.

I can't emphasize that enough.

Be happy to answer any questions for you though.

10-13-2010, 03:18 PM

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Originally Posted by Darrell

Is there anyone here who is a UOP Alumni?

If so can you provide any experience and information on the school?

I'm looking for pros and cons as well as general information about how the courses are taught, etc.

I realize it will vary probably by degree program, but I'm looking for a general idea.
Community college isn't working for me, so I'm exploring other options.

In general, I would stay away from UoP Darrell.
But I think it depends on what your doing. Your going into Education right? Or healthcare?? I can't remember.

Also, I am going to assume that Community College is not working because of time constraints?

10-13-2010, 08:47 PM

Thanks for the input, it's appreciated. A few things to mention:

University of Phoenix is regionally accredited like most other universities.

Also, cost isn't a concern, the Govt. pays for my schooling because of the GI Bill.

10-13-2010, 10:37 AM	#1
Darrell Guest Posts: n/a	University of Phoenix Alumni? Is there anyone here who is a UOP Alumni? If so can you provide any experience and information on the school? I'm looking for pros and cons as well as general information about how the courses are taught, etc. I realize it will vary probably by degree program, but I'm looking for a general idea. Community college isn't working for me, so I'm exploring other options.

10-13-2010, 10:43 AM	#2
forgop Not a puffer Join Date: Oct 2008 First Name: Duane Location: Indianapolis, IN Posts: 2,869 Trading: (40)	Re: University of Phoenix Alumni? I'm not an alum of UoP, but let me just say that there is little to no credibility to a degree from any online program IMO(unless it's done through a major university). I would personally stay away from any school that is looking for a profit because it only signals they are more concerned with enrollment than quality of education. My B-I-L was a president of a couple of online schools and just hearing him talk about the garbage they go through, it's all about recruiting and retention above all else. He's now at a local CC that I wouldn't give to go to either. At the end of the day, you're paying for an education and the last thing you want is a very expensive piece of paper because for a lot of online programs, that's all it is worth. What do you intend to study?

10-13-2010, 12:18 PM	#6
Ashcan Bill Ol' Dude Join Date: Oct 2008 First Name: Bill Location: Henderson, NV Posts: 1,897 Trading: (6)	Re: University of Phoenix Alumni? Darrell, without getting involved in stereotypes, snobbish personal opinions and uninformed claptrap, let me offer you a some first hand experience. My wife picked up her Master of Science in IS from UOP (she has a Chemical BS from a brick and mortar university). She worked her butt off for two years for that MIS. UOP holds their students to a high standard and makes them work, unlike many online and for profit schools. Their instructors are dedicated and first rate. It's also expensive. If you enroll at UOP, understand you're making a serious time and financial commitment. The classes were every bit as demanding as any university level course either of us have ever taken. It's a substantial work load. As far as whether the degree carries any weight? My wife was offered teaching positions at three different colleges after completing the degree, all of which require a Master degree as a basic job requirement. After retiring in CA and moving to NV, she decided to go back to work out of boredom. Three months ago she was offered an Administrator's job in the IS department of the local state community college here in Vegas on the strength of her Master's degree and previous experience. Bear in mind the current economic conditions and fact that Las Vegas has something like a 14% unemployment rate at the moment, with fierce competition for every job. In her experience, the UOP degree has certainly been embraced by all employers she's had contact with. Best of luck. Bill

10-13-2010, 01:58 PM	#7
Skywalker BABOTL Join Date: Oct 2008 First Name: Dice Location: Galaxy Far Far Away Posts: 10,168 Trading: (18)	Re: University of Phoenix Alumni? Community College is a heck of a lot cheaper! I have talked to a few people who have gone through UoP (btw - UOP is University of the Pacific) and have gone into debt. Your Community College should offer many of their courses online, if not others do. __________________ Smoke what you like!!!

10-13-2010, 11:08 AM	#8
E.J. I'm nuts for the place Join Date: Sep 2009 Posts: 3,218 Trading: (21)	Re: University of Phoenix Alumni? For what it is worth, not an alumni of UoP, but my ex is and she was hired by a large corp. for a very nice position related to her advanced degree from UoP. I also work with many social workers who have advanced degrees from UoP and they are licensed on those degrees. I know of a few other individuals who I am acquaintances of who have advanced degrees from UoP, all of which have had their degrees recognized in their hiring process and subsequent career path. I am under the impression that UoP has real accreditation, as opposed to some of the other institutions, and their accreditations, that UoP at times get associated with.

10-13-2010, 11:13 AM	#9
forgop Not a puffer Join Date: Oct 2008 First Name: Duane Location: Indianapolis, IN Posts: 2,869 Trading: (40)	Re: University of Phoenix Alumni? I had the opportunity to get a PhD from an online program and feedback I was given questioned the legitimacy of such a program because it was strictly an online school. This was after completing my masters in aeronautical science. I considered becoming a professor for any one of the three schools within 75 miles of Indy with aviation programs.

10-13-2010, 11:34 AM	#11
sikk50 Just Bored Really... Join Date: Oct 2008 First Name: Andrew Location: The Jefferson State Posts: 2,084 Trading: (13)	Re: University of Phoenix Alumni? In my experience, I'm going to agree with Duane. My current employer as well as the career I'm looking at getting into don't fully recognize a degree from online schools. I say fully bc if you have a degree from there you will be placed above those without degrees, however you won't be placed with others who have an equivalent degree from an acredited school. And that's where the difference comes. It's not an accredited school, of you got there and get a BA it won't be recognized by other institutions, e.g. If you went to a CSU or UC to get an MA you would have to redo your BA degree. Not to discourage you Mean D but if you want to do online try to do it through an accredited school, IF that's what you're after, if you're just trying to get a degree and an extra line on your portfolio then go for it! It's all up to you and what you want from it __________________ "Not a Headache in a Hogshead"

10-13-2010, 11:36 AM	#12
BloodSpite He Who Dares...WINS! Join Date: Oct 2010 First Name: Joe Location: Southwest, Missouri Posts: 364 Trading: (1)	Re: University of Phoenix Alumni? I am a UofP alumni. Graduated in 2009. Currently pursuing my bachelors in Business through them as well. I have attended brick and mortar schools as well. Went to North Metro tech in Acworth GA in the 90's before I signed my life away Went to University of Tennessee as well for a bit. Didn't complete either mostly due to deployments and duty station changes. UofP isn't bad. The trick is to maintain focus and most of all make time. I can't emphasize that enough. Be happy to answer any questions for you though.

10-13-2010, 08:47 PM	#14
Darrell Guest Posts: n/a	Re: University of Phoenix Alumni? Thanks for the input, it's appreciated. A few things to mention: University of Phoenix is regionally accredited like most other universities. Also, cost isn't a concern, the Govt. pays for my schooling because of the GI Bill.