Mother kills intruder with shot gun!!!

[Coop]

Did anyone else see this story about an 18yr old mother who killed an intruder the second he got in the house??? I give her major props for protecting her child, and calling 911 so it was documented!!!

if not here is the link:
http://gma.yahoo.com/video/news-2679...-27777235.html

I tell the wife to use the pistol since the shot gun is a lot of clean up!!!!

[Blak Smyth]

I defend the rights of the mother here!
Wish I could convince my wife this is right!

[Jasonw560]

Originally Posted by Blak Smyth

I defend the rights of the mother here!
Wish I could convince my wife this is right!

My wife is convinced this is right. She's just "uncomfortable" with having a pistol in the house. Won't even talk about scenarios with me. She knows I'm right.

[Coop]

Originally Posted by Jasonw560

My wife is convinced this is right. She's just "uncomfortable" with having a pistol in the house. Won't even talk about scenarios with me. She knows I'm right.

Get a biometric (fingerprint) gun safe to keep the pistol in. Have you and your wife's fingerprints to open it. That's what I have. Keeps the pistol for home defense ready to go, and safe so my kid or nephew doesn't find it

[357]

At least she's in a state where she's not going to be prosecuted for defending herself and her child.

[Coop]

She made the right call. I am guessing the area she lives in is pretty bad since she also has a German Shepard by her side!!!

I know my wife would not hesitate to shoot if someone got in our house and I wasn't there to do the shooting. My wife use to go hunting with her father, so she is a pretty good shot!

[shilala]

The girl's husband died of cancer on Christmas. The break-in occurred on New Year's eve. She had to blow some piece of sh1t to pieces that kicked the bedroom door in and was coming at her and her baby with a knife. It literally made me tear up. I can't imagine how she's dealing with all this, may God Bless her.

[SteelCityBoy]

Took me a while to convince my wife of owning firearms but she eventually warmed up to it. Now her shooting one is a different story!

She's so afraid of shooting! I got her to shoot a .22 but that's it!

[mkarnold1]

Originally Posted by SteelCityBoy

Took me a while to convince my wife of owning firearms but she eventually warmed up to it. Now her shooting one is a different story!

She's so afraid of shooting! I got her to shoot a .22 but that's it!

My wife is also afraid of shooting, so I told her to use the gun as a deterrent to an intruder. The threat of pumping a 12 gauge should be enough to make a bad guy think twice. If it's not, I taught her the good ol' butt stroke to the face followed by the butt stroke to the groin.

[Coop]

Originally Posted by mkarnold1

My wife is also afraid of shooting, so I told her to use the gun as a deterrent to an intruder. The threat of pumping a 12 gauge should be enough to make a bad guy think twice. If it's not, I taught her the good ol' butt stroke to the face followed by the butt stroke to the groin.

Or just tell her that the guy breaking into the house will kill her if she doesn't kill him first. Should work out her fears of shooting someone!!!

[replicant_argent]

Originally Posted by mkarnold1

My wife is also afraid of shooting, so I told her to use the gun as a deterrent to an intruder. The threat of pumping a 12 gauge should be enough to make a bad guy think twice. If it's not, I taught her the good ol' butt stroke to the face followed by the butt stroke to the groin.

If she isn't ready to use it, she shouldn't have it, IMHO. You wouldn't want your wife to be clubbed and then shot with her own shotgun, now would you? Not that there wouldn't be a plethora of other weapons in arms reach, but being a paper tiger is no solution when great bodily harm or death is involved. At CQB distance, she will most likely have lost the battle at that point if she is unwilling to pull the trigger to negate the threat.


It is always a good thing to look at defensive strategies as a fluid learning experience.

[mkarnold1]

Originally Posted by replicant_argent

If she isn't ready to use it, she shouldn't have it, IMHO. You wouldn't want your wife to be clubbed and then shot with her own shotgun, now would you? Not that there wouldn't be a plethora of other weapons in arms reach, but being a paper tiger is no solution when great bodily harm or death is involved. At CQB distance, she will most likely have lost the battle at that point if she is unwilling to pull the trigger to negate the threat.


It is always a good thing to look at defensive strategies as a fluid learning experience.

Heard and understood, but she would not have the gun loaded. She doesn't know how to shoot so there is no way I would want her discharging a loaded firearm in our home with the kids there. Also, an unloaded firearm is a very good weapon for a person who is at a disadvantage in a fight, because of the unease and uncertainty it may cause in the assailant. The walnut stock of a Winchester 1300 is no "paper tiger", it will do more damage than anything else in the house.

[replicant_argent]

Originally Posted by mkarnold1

Heard and understood, but she would not have the gun loaded. She doesn't know how to shoot so there is no way I would want her discharging a loaded firearm in our home with the kids there. Also, an unloaded firearm is a very good weapon for a person who is at a disadvantage in a fight, because of the unease and uncertainty it may cause in the assailant. The walnut stock of a Winchester 1300 is no "paper tiger", it will do more damage than anything else in the house.

And if the assailant has a loaded weapon, in opposition to a useless (at distance) weapon, the assailant may be quite a bit more likely to shoot first when confronted with that very possible threat. Negation or defusing of the situation before it becomes hand to hand is infinitely favorable to "hoping your wife can use it as a club as a last resort." A baseball bat might be a better choice, I suppose in that case.

I do not mean any disrespect in any way, but as someone who views the presence of a firearm as a responsibility, and when presented in a confrontation, I am mindful that hesitation may cause either escalation, loss of initiative, or an instantly reduced safety zone, an attacker, if armed with a firearm, may shoot at the earliest opportunity if threatened with a firearm themselves.

It's a glass half empty supposition, I suppose, and I am no tactician, but looking at the lowest common denominator is necessary, I think, especially with criminals.

[Coop]

I need to take the wife shooting, but not sure a pregnant wife should be brought to the firing range???

[icehog3]

While I completely support the right to defend one's home from intrusion by any means necessary, it seems to me there is more to this specific story than meets the eye.

Call me skeptical....or suspicious...but I am not taking this girl's story at face value.

[Coop]

Originally Posted by icehog3

While I completely support the right to defend one's home from intrusion by any means necessary, it seems to me there is more to this specific story than meets the eye.

Call me skeptical....or suspicious...but I am not taking this girl's story at face value.

Looks like a trailer park in the picture. Most trailer parks are a pool of felons, sex offenders, etc.

[icehog3]

Originally Posted by Coop

Looks like a trailer park in the picture. Most trailer parks are a pool of felons, sex offenders, etc.

I'm basing my skepticism on 25 years of interviewing victims and suspects. not on the victim's place of residence.

[Coop]

Originally Posted by icehog3

I'm basing my skepticism on 25 years of interviewing victims and suspects. not on the victim's place of residence.

What you thinking was the real reason???

[icehog3]

Originally Posted by Coop

What you thinking was the real reason???

I am not speculating as to a reason with the short amount of interviews I have seen. But apparently she knew her attacker.

I have been pretty dead on when it comes to parents coming on TV, hearbroken about their missing child....as to which ones are truly heartbroken, and which ones murdered their own child and dumped them in a creek.

My gut tells me there is more to this story than has come out so far, but it doesn't sound like the local authorities are going to push it. No matter, I am relatively sure the guy she shot was a sh!tbag either way.

[ade06]

Originally Posted by Coop

What you thinking was the real reason???

In the yahoo news clip they mentioned that she recognized one of the intruders as someone who was stalking her. I agree that there is probably more to the story.